Columns Sep 2, 2010 at 4:00 am

Don't Piss Off Jailbait

Steven Weissman

Comments

1
Sorry about how that guy treated you, but trust me: you don't want your toothbrush back.
2
Well, why don't you press charges while you are still underage? At the very least it would potentially stop him from mistreating another underage person in the same manner.
3
Press charges against this douchecanoe.
4
Love the accompanying picture. Doyyy!
5
"here i am..." "...filled with raging hormones, lactating like a fucking cow, hating your guts like Hitler hated retarded Jewish babies. Fuck you, you fucking fuck. I hope you break your kneecaps and wake up in a puddle of vomit the next time you decide to mix alcohol and ketamine. Dumbass."

"P.S. I peed in your shoes."

(applauds)

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what I anon is supposed to be for. Oh marvelous. It's been a long time coming - this level of vitriol in an i anon. I love it.
6
Anon, I am truly sorry for your pain. But believe me when I tell you, as bad as his behaviour was for this, it was NOTHING compared to what you would have had to deal with if you'd had his child. You dodged a bullet, and as sad as you are now, you absolutely made the best decision. And yeah, you should get that douchenozzle in as much shit as you can.
7
Call the cops! Have them verify the clinic trip and get him a nice pair of linked bracelets!

8
@1: best lead-off comment in I, Anon in ages.
9
OP, he's a statutory rapist. Unless, of course, you're in a position in which it would be impossible for him to disprove that he knew your real age, have his ass thrown in jail. Now.

I swear, assholes like that give responsible lechers such as myself a bad name.
10
Calling in the cops is rarely a good idea, especially in instances where the other person is simply a prick. It was consensual right? It ends up being a lot of work and what's the payoff? Maybe he's convicted, maybe not. Be more creative. This post is a good start. Do you know his friends? Where he hangs out? His yoga studio (you know he does yoga)? Information can be conveyed in all sorts of ways and you're clearly smart enough to figure it out. And remember, prickishness comes home to roost.
11
Calling in the cops is rarely a good idea, especially in instances where the other person is simply a prick. It was consensual right? It ends up being a lot of work and what's the payoff? Maybe he's convicted, maybe not. Be more creative. This post is a good start. Do you know his friends? Where he hangs out? His yoga studio (you know he does yoga)? Information can be conveyed in all sorts of ways and you're clearly smart enough to figure it out. And remember, prickishness comes home to roost.
12
Press charges.
13
The I, anon was nice and vicious- as how it should be.

I really liked the illustration as well. The blocks of colors behind the line art is pretty cool. Good job, Mr Weissman (are you jewish?)

PS: (Tthe armband, if worn, was always on the left arm, though. Shame for not using reference).
14
totally turn this dude in for stat rape, fuck him he sucks!
15
Definitely press charges! No reason why he should get to go out and wipe his feet on another underage girl.
16
Anon, I'm not aware of anything that prevents you from filing charges against him after you turn 18- you were still under 18 at the time no matter how old you are when you file charges. The statute of limitations is based on how long it has been since the crime was committed, not the current age of the victim.

With crimes like these, in many places, the clock doesn't even start ticking until the victim turns 18 because they realize that someone that young doesn't always have the ability or where with all to go to the police, immediately.

It's 100% up to you. In many instances with statutory cases it seems like it's the parents who pursue it and often it's a much bigger ordeal to the kid than the often consensual and non-issue event, itself.

This is *not* one of those cases. This is the case in point example of why there are laws against older people having sex with younger people even if they consent- because they can lead to abortions and emotional damage.

This guy sounds like a grade A piece of shit douche bag fuck wad, and you sound like an incredibly articulate and intelligent person. I think that the ball is in your court, and if it is worth it to you then you should have him prosecuted.
17
Oh, Sugar, I am so sorry for what you're dealing with. My own past has a few similar moments and I have some clues about how you're feeling. He's a dirtbag. He's slime.
You do not want your toothbrush back and I'm glad you pee'd in his shoes.
I hope you'll go to either Planned Parenthood ,to a center for battered women or to the rape crisis team to get some referrals to the resources available to get you back on your feet, emotionally, medically and in the more practical terms of a safe place to live. There is help available and there is no shame in seeking it when you truly are in need.... as for pressing charges, that's a hugely personal decision and I won't presume to say you should or shouldn't but you need to decide soon, maybe with the help of a crisis counselor.

For what it's worth, the hormonal roller coaster does not last forever, it just feels like it. It will settle down in a very few weeks.

I wish you all the best
18
What is up with all the baby-coddling comments.

You had unprotected, consensual intercourse, and *you* got pregnant because *you* had unprotected, consensual intercourse. This was really stupid, especially on your behalf, as the potential baby-host.

But let's blame it all on him because he didn't act exactly like you wanted it. He didn't seem to realize that he owes all of that to you simply because your had unprotected consensual intercourse once. What a weirdo.
19
sweet g,

The age of consent is not eighteen.
20
@18 - This girl is underage, meaning a teenager, and given the level of sex education in this country, are you really shocked that a teenage girl had unprotected sex with someone way older than her? Can you really blame her, or should you be blaming the assfuck who led her on and really should have known better than to have unprotected sex with a teenager?!

Anon - you should absolutely press charges. Start with the clinic where you had your abortion, they probably can lead you to the resources you need (legal help and counseling).
21
No,no, MenAre'... She's a teenager who had a common lapse of judgement and is paying a very high price for it. The fellow is a piece of shit who, as an adult, should have (a) kept it in his pants rather than bed down with a minor (b)failing that, should have taken the neccessary precautions to prevent her getting knocked up and (c) having knocked her up, should damn well have manned up enough to offer her some comfort and support through a very difficult time.
As a matter of law (if not always one of reality)she *can't* consent, therefore, legally, it was not consensual and as I read it, it was not "once", this sounds as if they saw each other long enough for her to believe that he gave a damn and would continue to give a damn when something painful and "not fun" happened.

Dan Savage touts the "Campsite Rule" for those who date people younger/less experienced than themselves: Leave 'em better than you found 'em.
This schmuck failed miserably to live up to the obligation he assumed the moment he expressed a sexual interest in this young woman.
22
"...didn't show a glimmer of respect for our child"...but you aborted it? What kind of respect was that? I am sorry you had to learn a very hard lesson from the likes of this piece of crap guy. Have you ever thought of using birth control and condoms? It's just an idea. Maybe you wouldn't end up pregnant and having to abort another baby later on.
23
@18: Welcome to our state's statutory rape laws, son. She made a bad decision in not using protection (or maybe she did and that protection failed), but jackass here broke the law. He is a criminal. And you are doing nothing to disprove the “All Men are Jerks” theory, by the by.

@Anon: Go to Planned Parenthood and get a copy of your medical records so you will have them if you decide to press charges. It can take awhile to get them. While you’re there get on Depo or an IUD. You are not going to be popping the pill everyday if you’re on the street. Depo also can eliminate your period, which is a bonus if you’re homeless. Good luck.
24
The more obviously fake an I anonymous is the more boring it is. This is the first one i didnt even make it halfway through in about 10 years.
25
#1 wins the thread early.

And yes, anon, have his ass thrown in jail. Even if he beats the rap, it will shame and stigmatise him forever, not to mention costing him lots of money.
26
Sweetie, the guy's a douche and I'm sorry you ever met him. But please tell me you've learned something from this so it will never happen again. Or ever come close to happening again.
27
Most excellent!
28
Now you see why women his own age won't go out with him and he has to resort to girls.
29
This is good, but it seems like you still have some feelings for him. I could see it being a teeny bit more hurtful. Calling someone 'inscrutable' and 'apathetic' is pretty weak in an anonymous essay.

By the way, is being 'the big spoon' a lower status position? I need to know if I've been taken advantage of because I'm tall.
30
Does Washington have an age of consent? Depending on that & her actual age at the time, it could throw a wrench into the pressing charges idea... but yeah, she should go for it. Even if it goes nowhere, it will still be on his record forever that he was charged with statutory rape, and that seems fair.
31
@16: I am not an attorney, but to my knowledge, the statute of limitations in most states is either two or three years upon the victim's reaching the age of majority. In other words, Anonymous has until 20 or 21 to press charges. However, The Stranger is not the best place in the world to get legal advice, so it would be better for Anonymous to call the police immediately to verify this. I would like to see her press charges, as pseudo-sensitive New Age guys are some of the most predatory, prolific and slippery. If she waits until she's 20, he may have changed his name to Nahoo and quietly moved to some Hindu retreat in Bangalore where he continues his con.
32
30, the age of consent in Washington is 16.
33
Best I, Anon in years. I want to take the writer of this one out on a date and show her how a real man with his shit together is supposed to treat a woman.

After she reaches legal age, of course.
34
#17 - what a great comment, Anon definitely needs to seek out resources. And Anon, speaking from experience I agree with LeBeau, the hormonal rollercoaster/lactation situation will end in a matter of weeks, not months. Don't let yourself rot on the streets,there is help out there for you that has nothing to do with the idiot who got you pregnant. Get help, get on your feet and get satisfaction when 5 years from now, you're still young, he's not, you're doing great, he's not, and he begs, you don't.
35
You people really don't know how to do this guy, do you? I'm all on board with getting the abortion clinic records to prove the abortion, and proving the sex by deduction. Fine. That doesn't establish paternity, and sex with douche by deduction. Money sounds tight, but she needs a small digital recorder (Olympus and Sony are best), and get it concealed in a purse or somewhere reasonably close to a conversation with douche. Some nice and positive discussion with douche where he lets his guard down, and talks about the sex with Anon would be GOLDEN if she wished to pursue prosecution. Clinic records + recorded admission to sex with minor = grounds for prosecution. If I lived in Seattle, I'd be glad to set it up.
36
Man, I hope anon isn't coming here for legal advice, especially re: statute of limitations and (usually illegal) secret recordings.

Anon, if you're online and reading this all somewhere out there, a women's resource center will be able to give you specific information to inform you what your options are (legally, and otherwise) so that you can make the best decision on how to handle this and on what time table.

People are logging into here from all over the country (as you, yourself, may have written in from outside city limits or be referring to an experience before you wound up in Seattle). You need to know what the law and resources are where you are and where this happened.

Best of luck, kiddo.
37
Just one example of why I didn't respect girls when I was underage (because they act like this trick), and why I don't respect the women they've turned into now (because they still act like this little trick).
38
Shitty circumstances notwithstanding, anon, you're clearly smart and capable. I have a feeling you'll do okay.
39
And please tell us why you're homeless exactly? And unemployed? I mean, you're educated enough to use terms like "inscrutably apathetic" - is pouring a cup of joe for a little money beyond you?

Oh, and the whole "you never showed a glimmer of respect for OUR CHILD" was priceless.

You are exhibit A in the argument for forced sterilization.
40
@29, I interpreted the "big spoon" part to be not about status but about reassurance. I enjoy both spoon positions, but when I am upset, I find it much more comforting to be small spoon, receiving an embrace rather than giving one. Perhaps Anon feels this way too.
41
@29, the "little spoon" is the more sheltered position, and I'm betting that what she needed in that moment was to be allowed to have a safe, sheltered, snuggled spot because she was feeling small and vulnerable. I'm a bit claustrophobic, so when I'm upset, I actually want the outside of the snuggle where I can feel connected without feeling cornered, but most women want that feeling of being snuggled almost completely.
Dude's an ass.
42
So based on the age of consent in Washington being 16, that means this guy fucked a homeless 15-year-old. And if he's 8 years older, he's 23 and damn well old enough to know better. Press charges, sweetie, and you'll be doing the world a favor.
43
#36

You are right, recording in Washington state requires both parties consent. My bad, only 11 states require 2 party consent, and Washington is one of them. My bad. Don't record.
44
This guy certainly needs manurity and a little tough love. Maybe jail time will give one or both of those. Press those charges.
45
Hmmm . . . let's see . . .

"ditched me like jury duty."
"acknowledged"
"imbecelic"
"empathetic"
"inscrutably apathetic"
"You're" (used correctly)

Does anybody actually believe this letter was written by an "underage" girl?
46
otis, I don't see why not. I knew how to spell at that age. My 14-year-old son knows how to spell and has a great vocabulary. True, she needs better judgment in her personal life, but that's not necessarily related to one's command of the English language (especially at her age.)
47
@45 If she's old enough to get pregnant, we're figuring she's at least twelve, which is plenty old enough to know the difference between you're and your, and none of those words are particularly challenging.
48
He got you knocked up ? were you in the kitchen making a sandwich when that happened ? Ever hear of a condom or the pill ? Oh yea, you are a poor victimized minor and only know how to use your pussy and not how to take care of it or your own dumb ass. You come off as a bitter tart in her twenties, which is what I suspect you actually are so go back to UW or Freakmont and quit crying. As far as the "respect" that you showed your baby I will use your catchy, clever phrase to say what she probably would have said right before she was murdered- Fuck you, you fucking Fuck.
49
"While I'm still underage" is telling me that she is somewhat close to 18. So either this didn't happen in Washington or she is not familiar with local laws. Maybe you were able to consent legally despite being underage, sweetie.
50
I take it you've not brushed your teeth since getting pregnant?
51
You all are suckers, because this story sounds totally fake.
First of all, how many 17 year olds do you know that use words like "empathetic", "insipidly shallow" or "inscrutably apathetic". Come on!!! Most 30 year olds don't use those words. Either we have the next writing phenom, or this person is a fake.
Second, how many 17 year olds leave their toothbrush at your place. Not sure about you, but when I was 17 I sure as hell didn't take my toothbrush anywhere.
Last, all she want's from her man is some ice cream? Really? I call BS.
Maybe this all did happen, but I am willing to bet that she is not 17. More likely 25 and probably a creative writing grad from the UW.
52
Sorry I, Anon, I don't know that I'm buying the claim of being underage. I can't recall the last time I read anything written by someone under the age of 18 (or 30 for that matter)that paralleled your command of grammer, punctuation, spelling, and vocabulary. Not to mention that you had the wherewithal to get yourself an abortion before it was too late. If you really are under 18 consider yourself lucky. You can now identify and spend your entire adult life sans the typical American loser.
53
I'm so glad she had an abortion. No child deservers to be burdened with a bat-shit crazy bitch like her.
54
"hating your guts like Hitler hated retarded Jewish babies"

Nice. Bravo for that one.
You don't have the right to talk about empathy, you fucking insensitive brat.
You lost any sympathy I had for you the moment I read that sentence. Go eat some ice cream, why don't you?
55
To those who don't believe an underage girl could have written so well: of course she could have. Not everyone coasts through sixth grade, when those words are taught! Some people actually pay attention, learn the words, understand how to apply them, and use appropriate punctuation to boot! Good on you, honey. What's happening right now is awful, AND it really is temporary. This, too, will pass.
56
Nail him at is yoga studio (I can feel the humiliation from here) AND call the cops!
57
All pregnant teens are well spoken and witty. Didn't anyone here see Juno?
58
Okay, time to become a survivor and not a victim. I am guessing daddy is not in your life. Daddy wouldn't be in that kid's life as well. Probability says you did the right thing because there would be yet another homeless, unemployed teen with a homeless, unemployed mother on the streets.

I am sure the abortion was hard. Maybe you didn't use birth control because you were hoping that you would have a happy, Brady Bunch family with Prince Charming.

Practice birth control instead of your fine shoe-pissing tecniques.

As I heard Adam Carolla once say, "your child will have a better chance at life if you were to put it in a dumpster".
59
The age of consent in Washington is 16 PROVIDED the age difference is less than 60 months. It is illegal for any person over the age of 21 to have sex with a 16-year-old; it is illegal for any person over the age of 22 to have sex with a 17-year-old.
Once you are 18 you can pretty much have sex with whomever you like unless you are still in high school and the person you want to sleep with is a high school teacher, even if they teach at a completely different school.
60
Unsure who's a bigger douchebag - the guy or the woman for getting into this retarded relationship in first place. Buck up and grow up, girl.
61
Uh can I just point out that she didn't mention having unprotected sex? Birth control fails sometimes.

Also, @21: yes.
62
God, I just wasted an hour reading the anon along with the comments instead of doing homework!! curse the interwebz!!
63
also @49: He's eight years older. It was way illegal. There's a few different tiers of statutory rape laws in Washington (I had a reason to look them up when I was a couple of years younger than her :P)--but even once the age of consent is reached, there's no lighter punishment if the difference is over 60 months (5 years) and it starts being illegal if the difference is over 24 months.

& I knew a lot of people at 17 who wrote like this. A lot of you must have had retarded friends.
64
FYI... With the exception of being a teacher/legal guardian or authority figure (vague). The age of consent in Washington State is SIXTEEN not Eighteen. Anon never gives her age...
I recently had to research the age of consent because my friend wants to fuck a 17 y/o... turns out legally he can.
65
Being as I dated a 38 year old when I was 19, it's hard for me to point fingers, as I've done more asinine things in my life. I think every girl should try it at least once, so as to know what to avoid. Also, plenty of young girls have bloated vocabularies and think their florid speech makes them sound smart, and I am proud to count myself among their number.

Where I do call bullshit: this girl is smart enough to use a word like "insipid", and doesn't know how to work a condom? Or get on the low income birth control plan at Planned Parenthood? And is homeless?

I don't know if I buy all of that, because it takes a pretty spectacular amount of stupidity to not only get pregnant at 18, but to stay pregnant into the second trimester. You can always move past a bad relationship, but she absolutely lost my sympathy over the whole pregnancy thing. Relationships at that age are virtually always temporary, so pretty much the stupidest thing you can possibly do is get knocked up.

That being said, if you can prove the paternity post abortion, take action. While I don't necessarily believe in all statutory rape prosecutions, I do believe that stupid assholes need to be culled out of the general population, and into an all male atmosphere where there's no danger of his genes getting passed down.

Just as a side note, though: you have officially forfeited your Get Out Of Jail Free Card, so now is the time to stop being a dumb twat.
66
Yes it's terrible that some guys take no responsibility for getting a girl pregnate but dam 50% of the fault is hers too. Truthfully she takes no reponsibilty for her situations and had she not got pregnate would and most likely still be/or is homeless, and unemployed waiting for some knight in shiny car to come rescue her from her personnel choices in life.
Yes he was an asshole there's no denying that but you made your bed now learn from it and make better choices...
67
Turn this jerk into the cops!!!
68
This letter may be a hoax. I got suspicious when the writer claimed to be lactating after having an abortion at 15 weeks. I miscarried twice (after having two healthy kids) and didn't lactate after either miscarriage (both around 10-11 weeks), but did for the two full-term births.
69
Really woman can't use abortion as birth control and refer to it as a child. I think it is fake btw
70
haha wow ~ this is not a fake, i was on birth control, im not really going to press charges, and yes, i was lactating for about a week and a half.
71
fake
72
@ skippy
umm.... i'm sorry but i just can't take anyone with as terrible grammar and spelling as yours seriously. read a book, and try again.

for the record- referring to my self as homeless is purely just for the sake of effect. im traveling, by choice. i WWOOF and do construction at festivals.
73
thank you, the stranger
for after everything i have done to try to get through to this douchebag, THIS IS WHAT DID IT!

he sent me an email titled, "im crying now" accompanied by a poem.

YESSSS!! PASSIVE AGRESSIVE REVENGE FTW!
74
Now see....
75
Now see....
76
haha babe- mama and i just read this. superrrr funny- i didn't know you peed in his shoes! love you sistahhh- and hell yeah she's truly underage and articulate! my girl is the most awesome possum around ;)

love jade and lea
77
"Fuck you, you fucking fuck" Love it!
78
# 69 Oh I knew a couple of girls that would pretty much use abortions as birth control, and say they had a miscarriage and get sympathy for their "loss".After 4 or 5 you'd think people would wise up about them.Nope. But as for one young girl, who had to have an abortion,probably her 1st,alone, I think she has every right to call it her child.Now she knows the outcome of cheesy guys+ no condoms = a big fuck up.
79
Learn to use birth control, you crybaby.
80
Saw that you said you're on birth control.. well take your pill at the same time every day, have the guy pull out & / or use a condom. It's a lot harder for the lil spermies to swim when they on your tits instead of in your snatch
81
Eeww.. I wanna puke down his throat and drop kick him off a cliff before he treats another goddess like trash- what a fuck
82
Eewwww what a dick- I wanna puke down his throat and drop kick him off a cliff before gets to treat another goddess like trash! You GO girlfrien...
83
Am I the only one who isn't going fucking retarded here?

Have people forgotten how badly even being accused of rape will fuck up someones life?

Maybe the OP should focus a little more on her emotional maturity/bullshit detector, and a little less on a polysyllabic vocabulary.

Yes, the guy was an asshole, and it was her own shitty judgement that landed her in her shitty situation.

If this asshole didn't deserve to be jailed + have career ruined + have a decent chance of being gang raped when they were in a relationship, why is it suddenly okay to do it now?

Lesson one in having a healthy and mature relationship is not to literally ruin peoples lives when you realize they're not the fucking white knight you thought they were.

Learn your lesson, cut contact, move on.
84
How'd you pay for the abortion? Threaten to turn him if he doesn't give you the $$$ to pay for the abortion. Then use that transaction as evidence and turn him in anyway.
85
Doesn't every guy know that you're supposed to do anal on the jailbait so they don't get knocked up?

AND if you do get her baby oven fired up you have to steal the abortion money from one of her parents. Easy.

What a newb.
86
So, the I Anon wrote in, and confirmed my suspicions. Smart, articulate girl who did what most young women do, date the wrong guy.
Just because you're taught how to use birth control AND use it, doesn't always mean it works. Also, her frontal lobe is not fully developed, and won't be till 25, so her decision making ability is not fully functioning, thus the poor decision to date a man 8 years older than her in the first place when she's not of age yet. This is why there is an age of consent.
This is why teenagers do things that adults find completely stupid, but I can guarantee we were just as clueless at that age.
Also, she wanted revenge, not to put him in jail, which is far more mature. Taking it to the police has consequences that are pretty crazy. And yes, he is a criminal, but if she doesn't want to press charges, that's her deal. She has time to change her mind.
Also, lesson learned, hopefully, about older guys. Yes, I'm sure you're beautiful and mature and articulate, but the guys who will date you that are nearly a decade older are not, which is why they can't get women their own age. This is a warning sign, not a bonus.
87
my god people...birth control fails sometimes!!!!
give her a breaaaaaak
88
@51- wow, your comment is such a complement! because i am not a fake, nor a UW creative writing grad. hahaha wow thanks i guess i am just the next writing phenom xD

@55- yes actually my father is in my life and he is very supportive. he is the one who took me to the clinic, and took care of me for the week after. don't make assumptions! ;D

@electric gypsy- dude, you rock, who ever you are. i will gladly give you his address so that you can puke down his throat.

and i would like to reiterate, that i was on the nuva ring, and it failed. i didn't know that i was pregnant because i spotted twice, and i usually have fairly light periods. i didn't notice anything out of the ordinary.
and i only used the word 'homeless' to be dramatic. im a traveler, by choice. and by 'unemployed', i mean underemployed.

89
To those of you who are slamming this girl and doubting her age because of her incredible vocabulary:

I am truly sorry that you will never, in all of your years, be as cool or as smart as her. Please remember that this is no one's fault but your own. Stop projecting.

I love you girl. Age don't mean SHIT.


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