Dan--once again with heartfelt feeling: YOU ROCK!!!!
YES for Obama / Biden 2012, and hell YES on marriage equality!!
And why the fucking hell does the Seattle Times endorse Rob McKenna?!?
Here's a dumb question: why would guys want to have grapefruit sized balls?
Some guys get grapefruit-sized balls from the edema associated with heart or liver failure. Sometimes it's so bad that their penises seem to get swallowed up by their balls and they can't pee. None of the guys I've seen with this seem in any way amused or turned on when this happens. But now I know that for some people this could be the best part of getting old and sick! Google image scrotal edema --wanks for some; motivation to eat well, exercise and not overdrink for others!!!
Oh come on, 4, do we have to have this again? At this point, any vote not for Obama is a vote for Romney. Anyone not voting who would have voted against Romney is also effectively casting a vote for Romney. Sorry and all that, but there it is.
@4, @11:
Don't come bitching to us when your pie-in-the-sky third party candidate loses and the right-wing, christo-fascist plutocrats are finally enshrined. Please shut your mouth about the "there's no difference" malarkey when you find out that gays will NEVER get legally married (and homosexuality is outlawed entirely), Roe v. Wade is overturned (and the sin of Onanism carries a life sentence), the 10 Commandments are chiseled into the courthouse walls and Jesus is the final arbiter of all things legal. Whatever miniscule thread of human decency we were still clinging to today will be shredded forever. Good luck with the Oligarchy!
Then don't complain when the alternative happens via a Romney/Ryan win. At this point, I'd vote for an independent before Romney. At least then, I wouldn't feel like I was flushing my vote down the toilet, only to have it clog up the bowl.
@4 - btw - I read Stoller's Salon article and I agree with almost everything contained in that piece. HOWEVER, the time for building a third-party consensus is long past and we are now stuck with the lesser-of-two-evils choice. The Pit or the Pendulum. And I will maintain that throughout all of the sins listed in Stoller's article, Obama and the Democratic ticket is a far sight better than ANYTHING the Republicans have to offer. (Republicans? Really? The people who think "The Handmaid's Tale" is a How-To manual?) These are the ONLY two choices we have.
...for now.
Vote Obama on Nov 6, ensure that we have reasonable choices for the Supreme Court in the next few years, and let's start working on third-party viability TODAY.
I live in Kansas, a firmly Republican state, so my vote doesn't count. So, rather than waste it on Obama, I'm voting for another supporter of gay marriage, Gary Johnson. :)
No tears if Romney/Ryan ticket wins. At this point, I'd rather vote for an independent before voting for them. At least then, if I toss my vote in the toilet, I wouldn't have to fear it clogging up the bowl later.
I'm not voting for Obama either. (I live in a red state.) If I'm going to waste a vote it'll be on someone I'd actually like to see elected, gay marriage supporter Gary Johnson.
Dan, I was going to vote for Obama, as well as Progressive Democrats for Congress and State Senate (a really important one), but I'm not sure I'll be able to uncross my legs by Election Day now.
Protest voting may be cool to brag about to your friends, but if you have any rational thought at all in your head, you would vote for third parties down-ticket so that they become a tangible option at some point in the future instead of a once-every-four-years circus. Voting for a third party once every four years to be edgy does nothing.
So you believe Obama has not been progressive enough, so you protest vote for Romney, who has vowed to be extremely regressive. This is extremely stupid, and exactly why republicans have been calling the shots and framing the entire game for years. As soon as one democrat is not pure enough for you, or not perfect, you cry, go home, and help the GOP.
I will be voting Green next week and the idea that this is automatically a vote for Romney is not true for those of us living in non-swing states. Nor is it "throwing our votes away" as some argue. In fact, for a NYer or Texan to vote Green is less like throwing our votes away than voting for the candidate we don't really support and whose win or loss in our state is a foregone conclusion anyway. Better to send the protest message to the candidate who took your vote for granted and help build up the third party. Those in Ohio, however, do as I say and not as I do: vote Obama.
I will be voting Green next week and the idea that this is automatically a vote for Romney is not true for those of us living in non-swing states. Nor is it "throwing our votes away" as some argue. In fact, for a NYer or Texan to vote Green is less like throwing our votes away than voting for the candidate we don't really support and whose win or loss in our state is a foregone conclusion anyway. Better to send the protest message to the candidate who took your vote for granted and help build up the third party. Those in Ohio, however, do as I say and not as I do: vote Obama.
I'm kind of curious to know how this whole saline balls thing got started. Who first started doing this? IV, saline-these are not materials that are just lying around the house! I can't think of any explanation other than someone with medical knowledge and access to materials decided to just test things out one day and the practice spread.
Of course I'm going to vote for the lesser of two evils. Otherwise I am effectively voting for the greater evil.
When we get an electoral system that allows for more than two parties to actually be electable, I will vote for my favorite candidate. Until then, I'm voting against the guy that I really don't want to see in office.
Those of us not in swing states can freely cast a 3rd party protest vote to send a message without risk of Nadering. Gary Johnson (Libertarian) and Jill Stein (Green) are both are in favor of decent human rights.
But swing state voters (specifically OH, VA, IA, CO, WI, FL & NH), please hold your noses and go for Obama.
Also, folks in WA, MN, MD & ME: marriage equality on the ballot, get it right this time.
President Obama's record is less than sterling. Don't forget, though, that Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 79 years old and a two-time cancer survivor. The President elected this year will in all likelihood nominate her successor. Do we want a President who has expressed his wish that Robert Bork were now on the Supreme Court?
Any sex-positive person who casts a vote to put Mitt Romney in the White House--that is, any vote not for Obama--(or who declines to vote at all) is a damn quisling in the culture wars.
I'm glad to see so many going 3rd-party. Sorry, but tepid gay marriage support and other pandering doesn't make up for the continued military adventures, domestic spying, drone warfare, medical marijuana DEA raids, handouts to banks and insurance companies, and the other shit that has come out of Bush III's time in office.
I live in Ohio, so voted already for Obama. I was disappointed at the lack of 3rd party choice down ticket. The only non-D or R was a tea partier running against weenie boy Josh Mandel and Sherrod Brown for the senate seat. Oh yeah... there's also a right wingnut running for the state school board who wants parents to opt their kids in for sex ed, rather than opting out, and is a huge fan of home schooling. brr... At least he thinks creationism belongs in a comparative religion course. Where are the progressives for the congressional seats?
i think cam girl is wasting energy on this guy. she's clearly way more attached to this guy than he is to her. i originally met the guy i consider my bf in a similar way (although he was never paying me; we started chatting on skype way before we met in person). he has other girls he cams with sometimes. i think it's cute he's such a slut. but the difference is that i know where i stand with him. like any open relationship, knowing that you're the primary or the side piece helps you feel secure in where it's going. i know i'm his favorite, and he always txts or messages me if he's going to be playing with someone else to let me know (and we usually chat anyway before or after anyway).
i agree that if she wants more (whatever that means), she should ask for it. but she shouldn't be surprised if he says no.
What do Jesse Ventura, Bernie Sanders, Lincoln Chafee, and even fucking Joe Lieberman have in common?
They've all actually been elected as independents, which makes any one of them, including fucking Joe Lieberman, a more credible third-party Presidential candidate, even in 2012, than all your protest vote party candidates put together.
If you consider yourselves serious parties, and want us to consider taking you seriously, put in the serious work and get some candidates elected into actual offices.
32 - Yes, if you can get Dan to quit bringing politics up in the column we'll keep it out of the comments.
I miss the old columns, which had more stories about cool stuff like scrotum inflation. Or shoving condom-covered bananas up your ass and shitting them back out.
I'll be voting for Obama, but my husband is going the third-party route....which I think will be okay. Minnesota was the only state to vote for Mondale, so we're pretty firmly commited to the left as far as presidents go.
@32 "Can we stop discussing politics and get back to the grapefruit sized junk?"
The Republicans have the hypocritical, grapefruit sized balls to try to shove their politics all up into my junk, your junk, and everyone else's junk; Dan's colmn has to acknowledge that, yes?
For myself, I was curious enough to click and now I am trying to unsee those "saline balls" in action.
There is no value to a third party vote, or promoting a third party at all, because of the way our system is set up: Most votes wins. That means the party that splits into two will loose twice.
Perot helped Clinton get elected in '92 by splitting the R vote & Nader helped Bush get elected in '80 by splitting the D vote. Third parties always help their worst enemies, so voting for them is worse than throwing your vote away. Just stick a fork in your eye & be done w/ it.
Think both parties are the same? Well, boo-fucking-hoo. Welcome to American politics. I'm glad you've started paying attention. Of course, they're not the same, although neither of them wants fundamental change to the socio-economic system, which is what most of us would like. Amiright?
Your vote for anything federal isn't going to bring that fundamental change, so at least vote for the guy who will negotiate some concessions when he sells you into slavery, rather than the guy who will sell your body outright to the dog food cannery. (I'm talking D v. R, here.)
"Meaningful change," if that is even possible, will happen at the local level. Vote for progressive candidates, initiatives, and laugh at the hypocrisy of living in "the land of the free." Unless a Constitutional Congress is convened, we'll just have to live w/ what we've got.
@2: While I'm well aware that turn ons are subjective, like a lot of other things, I was referring to @3's specified reasons, from experience in the ER, why a lot of men would NOT want grapefruit sized balls.
I see this similar to reasons why some big-busted women, experiencing chronic back pain, would seek breast reduction surgery.
Not that I disagree with DS's voting request, but it just destroys my faith in our government to think that I will be voting for Obama because he's *not* threatening my liberty, and not because I think he will improve our country.
@37 and others who claim a third party vote is a waste: I assume that if your choice in a close election was between Maggie Gallagher and Rick Santorum, you might just as well vote for a third party then actively pledge support for one candidate you didn't agree with.
Personally, I see little difference between former Mass. Gov. Romney and Obama on big issues. Perhaps if Gary Johnson supporters, who are probably 5-10% of the population, voted for him, the major parties might adopt some of his positions on drug reform, etc. If I keep voting for a democrat because its the lesser of evils, and third party reformers keep getting .032% of the vote, Obama will continue to break promises and raid marijuana clinics, launch foreign wars without congressional approval, saddle our children with debts, etc.
Notwithstanding the above,I am ready for the election to be over so we can back to more important topics.
Sorry, but I'm with repete. The Dem party hasn't done the LGBT community any favors. My vote's been with Gary Johnson since the spring. In fact, I've already voted.
ONLY the LP is interested in true liberty and equality.
I clicked to see the "saline balls" in action and I'm glad that I did—it's really kind of delightful! Definitely more silly than sexy though.
People who watch porn—even to excess—are generally more fun to fuck, date and/or be friends with than are people who don't, in my experience. I'm not on-board with Dan's anti-porn sex and anti-porn enthusiast agenda.
I would vote third-party if we had instant-runoff voting; however, since we don't, I'm voting for the most-likely person to win who isn't Romney. Obama hasn't been perfect, but there is some wisdom to that cliché about not letting perfection be the enemy of the good enough. Relative to Romney, Obama is good enough. How many right-wingers do you think will vote for a third-party candidate over Romney because he's not genuinely conservative enough? Not many, I bet. They're just voting for the guy who's most likely to win who isn't black.
Precisely. I'm not even from the US but it seems fairly obvious to me why undecided voters should vote for Obama over Romney.
The plurality rule system of the US means that Duverger's Law applies. There's no chance of an effective third party in the US without considerable social and political upheaval, hence there is no value to a third party vote.
Does anyone really think that Gore would have gotten us into Iraq? Seriously? The idea that the parties are identical is ludicrous. I guess a trillion dollar war doesn't matter if you aren't fighting it.
Gore never became president for many reasons. But one big reason was because a handful of fools (in Florida and New Hampshire) voted for Nader.
As mentioned, if you live in a state that is going for Romney anyway, vote for whoever you want, but don't expect it to make a difference. It never does. Seriously, here are some names for you:
Teddy Roosevelt -- Split from the Republican party because he thought it wasn't progressive enough. The Republican party then became the business party (and it remains so).
George Wallace -- Split from the Democratic Party because of segregation and civil rights (he didn't want them). The Democratic Party then moved more to the left and continued to push for civil rights and thus because the opposite of what Wallace wanted.
John Anderson -- Split from the Republican Party because Reagan was too extreme. Almost every election since then has seen the Republican Party become as extreme, if not more extreme than Reagan.
Ralph Nader -- Ran because Clinton wasn't progressive enough, and Gore was not enough of an environmentalist. The Democratic Party has since nominated more centrists and made modest progress on environmental issues -- the strongest environmentalist was probably the man Nader helped defeat.
All of these candidates have the same thing in common. Not only did they lose in the short term (playing a part in electing someone they didn't want to see elected) but they lost in the long term. Their desire to see their party move in the direction they wanted it to move never happened. The opposite happened. I know of no counter example, by the way. Maybe one of you can point to history to justify your vote. Good luck.
Savage knows a butt load about both politics and sex. Hold your nose and vote for Obama.
Something tells me it's probably mostly men who are into grapefruit-sized balls, whether it's their own or someone else's. I imagine there's some psychology at play in the grapefruit balls fetish that's kind of exclusive to people who have balls. I'm pretty sure most women are just going to think, "dude, why'd you do that to your balls?"
On the other hand, people being what they are, it stands to reason that there must be at least a few women out there who are turned on by it. And I'm sure there are kinky women who dig administering the saline solution.
If you're really interested in making major, long-term political change -- it's gotta start at the local level. No third party is going to have a chance nationally until it is well represented at the local and state levels. So the real question is, would you rather support a candidate who is likely to win and who supports some of your interests, or throw that support away out of pride and principle?
By voting for Nader et al you are essentially cutting off your nose to spite your face.
CAM never should have stopped charging the guy. If you work in any field where you have a one on one practitioner/client dynamic, you don't just charge the people you don't like, you charge everyone equally because it's the ethical thing to do. Barter is fine, as long as nobody feels taken advantage of. The exchange is integral to the fact that it's a professional relationship, and it is not an insult to the payer. It's how you pay rent, and a good client will understand that.
If the relationship changes, then by all means one can rethink that, but it didn't. And I DO think CAM is being taken advantage of, but possibly not intentionally. He might just figure she's being nice and hasn't clued in to her evidently heightening emotions. He might not realize he's in a unique position with her. Time to let him know that.
@37 raises a solid point. Change in the Democratic Party is possible on the local level,usually more so in non-election years. Sick of the Dems not reflecting the progressive component of their coalition? After the election become involved in the party and push that way. It may be more work than a 3rd party vote, but it moves things in a better direction.
Someone should tell CUM that "mortified" means embarrassed. When I read that he was mortified by what he found in his Google search I wondered if he saw someone he knew or something.
Totally got into the same argument today w/ someone close to me: They're not gonna vote, 'cause "their guy" (Ron Paul) didn't get onto the ballot, and they claim to see "no difference" between R's & D's.
If your *only* concern is the economy & not any social issues at all, then brutally logistically speaking, he's not far off. I did some research on spending by the most recent administrations. Although Gore likely wouldn't have gotten us into Iraq, historically there's not actually a huge amount of difference between Dem's & Repub's spending percentagewise - ie, what portions of the national budget get allotted for XYZ thing.
So, his argument is, we're going to hell in a handbasket economically & neither candidate has a clear idea about what to do about it, so why vote for either?
I sat him down & read w/ him many articles form both sides of the fence about how the economy is slowly improving. But he basically just wanted to have a Libertarian tantrum.
In theory, fine concept. In application, less so.
The moment you deviate from the topic of the economy, even a little, there's huge ideological differences between Obama & Romney & I get so freaking pissed off when people just write that off. Especially 'cause we live in a swing state. (I miss my home state of NY, so much!)
@1 why would guys want to have grapefruit sized balls?
Was wondering the same thing, then I clicked on the link Dan provided depicting a guy banging a woman with his giant balls slapping every which way against her ass. The added stimulation of a set of huge balls slapping your ass while being fucked seemed like a nice benefit.
Ah, the catch-22 of wanting third parties but nobody voting for them. @37 and the opposing view point do bring up good points (although I think Horton is overstating the case against Obama).
If my state's electoral votes weren't certainly going to Obama, I'd not have protest voted for a third party, but he leads Romney by such a margin that my vote isn't going to be worth much.
And since the vast majority of people I'm surrounded by end up voting pragmatically for the Dems, I'm not worried about a surprise result upset. I don't see 800,000 people doing what I did...
If either of these things wasn't true, I'd not have voted the way I did. It felt good not to limit myself based on fear though.
The one decision I'm regretting is voting so early...a little more suspense than I'm used to, since I usually do it last minute!
Obama hasn't been perfect, too much like Republicans, etc.
Right, that's because we have a winner take all system that requires Obama to play the game if he wishes to stay in a position of accomplishing anything. Basically, we have candidates who would like to do the right thing, but would immediately lose if that puts them outside the majority. So, they do the best they can within the constraints of the winner take all the system.
The problem isn't Obama's personal politics and motives, it's winner take all. If you want 3rd, 4th, and 5th party options, you need to replace winner take all with a system of proportional representation. Until we have proportional representation, voting for 3rd parties is effectively not voting at all. It sends absolutely no message, other than who cares about the 3rd party because they won't win.
@52: No third party is going to have a chance nationally until it is well represented at the local and state levels.
I hear that said a lot, but it ignores the realities of our political system. A 3rd party local politician can win if he's representation a small, homogeneous community of outliers. That isn't going to help at all in a national election, which isn't restricted to the outliers.
The fact is, an outlier party will never win an election that requires a majority. They can win proportional elections, however, such as those in the German and Isaeli parliamentary systems. If you want fringe parties in office, you need to lobby for a proportional election system.
If you live in a state that is clearly Republican like mine: 7 Republicans (electoral college) in the past 10 presidential elections, 57% popular vote Republican in the past 2 elections, and the latest poll has Romney winning by 59%, there is no reason you shouldn't vote for the candidate you'd prefer.
This "don't waste your vote" argument is old and tired -- it is the argument used by both Democrats and Republicans to keep the system as it is. If more people voted third party consistently, placed them in city state house and senate, and federal position, we would have a viable democracy where there are actual choices.
Vote for who you want not against the one you don't want.
@Barbara (29)
Please don't lump "supports homeschooling" in with all the "bad stuff." Have you tried it? Have you been involved in any homeschooling communities? Lumping homeschoolers in with religious or conservative nuts is inaccurate, like lumping all straights in with homophobes. Homeschooling well done provides an education that is as good or better than a public or private school education. There are *lots* of liberal homeschoolers- half of all the homeschoolers in our community belong to the secular group, not the religious group, and some of those in the religious group share liberal values. Most of the homeschoolers, whether they claim a religion or not, are homeschooling for educational reasons, not religious reasons or a shelter-my-kid-from-anything-with-which-I-could-possibly-disagree philosophy. Do not dismiss us, especially from what i suspect is an uninformed position.
migrationist: But sometimes a third party grows strong enough to kick one of the two main parties out.
This can happen if:
1) the 3rd party effectively co-opts the platform of one of the two-parties. The net result is still a two party system with one party switching names. Nothing but a game of musical chairs.
2) there is a revolution, usually under desperate circumstances, such as the one that put Hitler's national socialist party into power. Again, the result is still a two-party, or more likely a one-party system.
If you want multiple parties, you need proportional representation. If you want a revolution, you need to hope things get much much worse so that a majority of people start believing your "sky is falling" platform.
How is it that all you intelligent, thoughtful Americans are still ok with voting on a first-past-the-post system? Preferential voting means you can protest-vote whichever third party candidate you like and your vote isn't wasted, but passed on to your main candidate of choice.
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@66 There are actually sane cryptozoologists, but proportionally, they barely push the needle.
In fact, the field itself is so full of ridiculous quackery, that sorting them by the ideological underpinnings of their beliefs does not usually garner one additional insight or respect.
CAM's letter reads like a ad for the cam-girl industry. It seems like she just wrote out the fantasy of everyone who pays for these sites-- "She'll get to know the real me and fall in love!"
It's not impossible, but a couple letters like that ending up on a few different sex/relationship advice columns might convince a few people, still holding somewhat of a grasp on reality, to whip out their CC. Probably wrong here, but it's almost funny how it's a reverse-Penthouse Forum letter.
And in particular: "If you want a revolution, you need to hope things get much much worse" ...and also accept the enormous number of people who will be maimed and die young for your revolution. Those are the stakes.
@59:they claim to see "no difference" between R's & D's.
This is just ignorance, and it's particularly infuriating to me. My wife was diagnosed with a disease this year that has no cure but can be managed through meds. We are both self-employed, so the only insurance option available in Washington state was a shitty individual plan that would have left us with $50,000 in out of pocket medical bills. Every year.
Thanks to Obama's health care reform, however, my business now qualifies for the better plans available through group coverage, and they couldn't exclude us based on her pre-existing condition.
Obama has made a huge difference to us, and millions of others who have been screwed by the previous insurance laws. A vote against Obama, whether for Romney or an unelectable 3rd party candidate, would have real, disastrous consequences to us and so many others in the same boat.
And that's not mention reproductive rights, gay rights, education, etc.
@69: Preferential voting means you can protest-vote whichever third party candidate you like and your vote isn't wasted, but passed on to your main candidate of choice.
That would be a wonderful improvement to what we have. Unfortunately, our country is too divided, and the voting population so flooded with ignorance and distrust, that making structural improvements such implementing preferential voting, or getting rid of the electoral college, is all but impossible.
This sort of disfunction makes it easy to understand why throughout history great empires inevitably crumble.
Erica, yes, a true revolution would most likely result in many people being maimed and killed and many would be young, but at least there would be results - a dramatic change and paradigm shift in thinking how this society is run - the end justifying the means.
And are the deaths and injuries any worse than the current situation where enormous numbers of persons in far off lands are being maimed and killed, directly due to our current system? Those atrocities are kept just beyond our eye so we don't feel the impact so great.
Anyway, who are we joking, a revolution in America? Many many decades away, if ever.
I was stating Men who vote for Romney forfeit their access to Women. If some Man is voting against my best self-interests, he will never get in my pants, nor should he feel entitled to it. I was going along the lines that Women tend to vote Democratic (community) and Men tend to vote Republican (self). Of course, there are people of both genders who will vote differently. Save the blast.
I want Romney to win, then people might actually get pissed and get in the fucking streets and change something. A gentle nudge off the cliff might be what we need. Call me an anarchist if you wish, but Obama is killing Pakistani civilians currently, pushing for the most hideously invasive laws so far ever seen in our country about detaining people without trial. Say what you will, but having legal marriage in a country where you will then get called a terrorist for protesting something else and locked away forever isn't much of a triumph is it?
HAVE CAUCASIAN MALES GONE COMPLETELY MAD? FIRST, CAUCASIAN MALES ARE OBSESSED WITH FORESKIN RESTORATION; NOW, THEY WANT LARGE NUTS? BEING "SMALL" IS IN CAUCASIAN MALES' GENES - DO NOT FUCK WITH NATURE; JEALOUSY CREATES STRANGE CANCERS.
Re Saline balls
I have on - again off- again experience with various Dommes. I must say that my current mistress is fascinated with mine, enough that I might consider doing this for her. For some odd reason I am flattered by her attention to them, and wish to please her. (hell I am flattered by any female attention, no matter what it costs)
She seems to know just how much mine can be, ah, manipulated to get various responses from me, and just at the dge of what is painful. (she has never had a pair, how does she know this?)
Just my 2 cents.
SB
@70. Your analogy is ill-fitting, in that it presumes that the homeschoolers I defend are in the minority, when they are not. (Let's review. Half of the homeschoolers = 50%. A portion of the other half, no matter how small, added to the aforementioned 50% makes a majority.) "Sorting them by the ideological underpinnings of their beliefs" is unnecessary, and, in fact, irrelevant. Yout comment suggests that somehow the very notion of an autodidactic education and/or an education that is independent from the widespread public system is somehow a criticism in and of itself, which might be the "ideological underpinning" of your disapproval of homeschooling, but it has no basis in fact.
@15- this whole "leased of the two evils" thing just leaves everybody with two different flavours of evil unfortunately and there is a very simple and solid argument that supporting a third party is the only way to correct the monopoly on power that exists now. Every election time we get to see te same dog and pony show. Scared of the oligarchy ? Obama just sold America out to the bankers literally, and made drone attacks on civilians a daily operation. He's in the pocket just the same as Romney. To me at least, a vote for either of them is a vote for the status quo, you can piddle about trying to decide the lesser of two evils but it doesn't really represent anything close to a majority.
Looking at this from a country that does have more than two parties, I think the advice to work at it from a local level is sound. When people can see, for example, a left wing environmentally conscious party running a state, being fiscally responsible, keeping people working, making pragmatic choices that actually work, they lose some of their fear. You also build up your reservoir of candidates with experience in government.
Anyone honestly disenchanted with the system as it stands who isn't then working to make the system better, but instead just throwing up his hands and throwing his vote away, needs to grow up. You have a responsibility as a citizen to either play your part in the system, or to play your part changing the system. There isn't a "government fairy" anymore than there is a "laundry fairy" - pick up your damn dirty underwear and start washing.
What kind of "results" are you looking for from your revolution, exactly? A historical review of revolutions suggest the most probably outcome would be a massive reduction in civil liberties, mass execution of and imprisonment of dissidents, and rule by despot. Our little American revolution, of which you should be proud, is a notable exception.
As a wise man once said, democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time. If you're looking to better people's lives, I'd suggest working to shore up our democracy against the forces that are trying to erode it. On the other hand, if you're just angry and bored and want to see humans killed, imprisoned, or otherwise oppressed because they've failed to live up to your lofty ideals, then revolution is probably the way to go.
bagel@82, I support your right to call for revolution, but I'm going to keep on reminding everyone that many poor people will die awful deaths in a revolution -- people you know. People shouldn't think a revolution will be a fun adventure.
"who are we joking, a revolution in America? Many many decades away, if ever."
To CAM--Ever think that maybe the reason he gets off on cam girls is because he HAS to pay for it? Not like "ugh I love can girls so I'll pay for it if I have to in order to get off" which it seems you're assuming, but that actually paying for it, entering into a contract of sorts, either being submissive by "being so bad he has to pay for female attention" or dominate by "owning a woman's time"....that THOSE are the things that gets him off?! Maybe he's just being polite and coming to your free sessions because he knows you like him and feels bad? Either tell him "trial period is up!" or cut him off completely. This is NOT a way to meet people, it's your livelihood. Get out of the house and meet people in your own time zone. And maybe with some clothes on (not slut shaming just saying add a little space between personal and work life).
@88 Thank you for demonstrating a grasp of some vocabulary on what should have been used as a reading comprehension exercise; it certainly is possible you are well suited to teach.
I am not going to ask you to cite sources for your statistics, as your "you lack personal knowledge" note #66 and a sniff test indicate that your inviting me to engage in scat play. Instead, I am going to point out that you seem to have conflated "liberal" with good in a way that may also be problematic.
Home schooling can be incredibly useful, proper and rewarding, but given the regulations and practitioners across this country, I'm afraid you'll have to fix it or just take your lumps.
Dan, how does Bob's ass feel when you fuck it? I bet it's nice and tight, seeing how does little more than lift weights and generally being a disengenuous asshole. Fuck him hard for me: he's fucked me enough times. Fuck him until he bleeds. And send me pictures. Thanks for nothing, Bob, you douchebag.
"seandr, based on a perusal of that site, I am not convinced the bottom was a woman."
No, but You "Bullballs By Oxballs" are a man (if you wanna call yourself that) AND a bottom: on the bottom, slithering around with your secrets, neuroses and bullshit. Go fuck yourself and I hope your fucking treehouse burns down with you in it, you hate-inducing motherfucker!
Ooh! Look at that! #100!! What do I win?? Nothing, when you waste your time on a narcisstic asshole like Bob R., who flies to Seattle several times a year for some illicit three-ways with Dan and Terry. Hope he's a good fuck, guys. He proves himself to be little more than that when the chips are down. Go fuck yourself, Bob. You deserve to be shamed. Fuckhead.
Having had edema from CHF that just STARTED to plump my junk, let me tell you, you feel bad enough physically that you really wish you would die and get it over with. Not a sexy moment at all.
YES for Obama / Biden 2012, and hell YES on marriage equality!!
And why the fucking hell does the Seattle Times endorse Rob McKenna?!?
Here's a dumb question: why would guys want to have grapefruit sized balls?
No thanks.
Don't come bitching to us when your pie-in-the-sky third party candidate loses and the right-wing, christo-fascist plutocrats are finally enshrined. Please shut your mouth about the "there's no difference" malarkey when you find out that gays will NEVER get legally married (and homosexuality is outlawed entirely), Roe v. Wade is overturned (and the sin of Onanism carries a life sentence), the 10 Commandments are chiseled into the courthouse walls and Jesus is the final arbiter of all things legal. Whatever miniscule thread of human decency we were still clinging to today will be shredded forever. Good luck with the Oligarchy!
"Arguing for the re-election of a person…
...for now.
Vote Obama on Nov 6, ensure that we have reasonable choices for the Supreme Court in the next few years, and let's start working on third-party viability TODAY.
So you believe Obama has not been progressive enough, so you protest vote for Romney, who has vowed to be extremely regressive. This is extremely stupid, and exactly why republicans have been calling the shots and framing the entire game for years. As soon as one democrat is not pure enough for you, or not perfect, you cry, go home, and help the GOP.
When we get an electoral system that allows for more than two parties to actually be electable, I will vote for my favorite candidate. Until then, I'm voting against the guy that I really don't want to see in office.
But swing state voters (specifically OH, VA, IA, CO, WI, FL & NH), please hold your noses and go for Obama.
Also, folks in WA, MN, MD & ME: marriage equality on the ballot, get it right this time.
Any sex-positive person who casts a vote to put Mitt Romney in the White House--that is, any vote not for Obama--(or who declines to vote at all) is a damn quisling in the culture wars.
i agree that if she wants more (whatever that means), she should ask for it. but she shouldn't be surprised if he says no.
They've all actually been elected as independents, which makes any one of them, including fucking Joe Lieberman, a more credible third-party Presidential candidate, even in 2012, than all your protest vote party candidates put together.
If you consider yourselves serious parties, and want us to consider taking you seriously, put in the serious work and get some candidates elected into actual offices.
I miss the old columns, which had more stories about cool stuff like scrotum inflation. Or shoving condom-covered bananas up your ass and shitting them back out.
I'll be voting for Obama, but my husband is going the third-party route....which I think will be okay. Minnesota was the only state to vote for Mondale, so we're pretty firmly commited to the left as far as presidents go.
The Republicans have the hypocritical, grapefruit sized balls to try to shove their politics all up into my junk, your junk, and everyone else's junk; Dan's colmn has to acknowledge that, yes?
For myself, I was curious enough to click and now I am trying to unsee those "saline balls" in action.
I logged on to agree with @28.
I will go back to my swing state and apologize to Mrs. Horton for voting for Johnson over Obama.
Perot helped Clinton get elected in '92 by splitting the R vote & Nader helped Bush get elected in '80 by splitting the D vote. Third parties always help their worst enemies, so voting for them is worse than throwing your vote away. Just stick a fork in your eye & be done w/ it.
Think both parties are the same? Well, boo-fucking-hoo. Welcome to American politics. I'm glad you've started paying attention. Of course, they're not the same, although neither of them wants fundamental change to the socio-economic system, which is what most of us would like. Amiright?
Your vote for anything federal isn't going to bring that fundamental change, so at least vote for the guy who will negotiate some concessions when he sells you into slavery, rather than the guy who will sell your body outright to the dog food cannery. (I'm talking D v. R, here.)
"Meaningful change," if that is even possible, will happen at the local level. Vote for progressive candidates, initiatives, and laugh at the hypocrisy of living in "the land of the free." Unless a Constitutional Congress is convened, we'll just have to live w/ what we've got.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/ob…
I see this similar to reasons why some big-busted women, experiencing chronic back pain, would seek breast reduction surgery.
Ummmm.... No. Thanks for thinking of me, though!
Personally, I see little difference between former Mass. Gov. Romney and Obama on big issues. Perhaps if Gary Johnson supporters, who are probably 5-10% of the population, voted for him, the major parties might adopt some of his positions on drug reform, etc. If I keep voting for a democrat because its the lesser of evils, and third party reformers keep getting .032% of the vote, Obama will continue to break promises and raid marijuana clinics, launch foreign wars without congressional approval, saddle our children with debts, etc.
Notwithstanding the above,I am ready for the election to be over so we can back to more important topics.
ONLY the LP is interested in true liberty and equality.
Marriage equality, yes!
:o)
People who watch porn—even to excess—are generally more fun to fuck, date and/or be friends with than are people who don't, in my experience. I'm not on-board with Dan's anti-porn sex and anti-porn enthusiast agenda.
I would vote third-party if we had instant-runoff voting; however, since we don't, I'm voting for the most-likely person to win who isn't Romney. Obama hasn't been perfect, but there is some wisdom to that cliché about not letting perfection be the enemy of the good enough. Relative to Romney, Obama is good enough. How many right-wingers do you think will vote for a third-party candidate over Romney because he's not genuinely conservative enough? Not many, I bet. They're just voting for the guy who's most likely to win who isn't black.
Precisely. I'm not even from the US but it seems fairly obvious to me why undecided voters should vote for Obama over Romney.
The plurality rule system of the US means that Duverger's Law applies. There's no chance of an effective third party in the US without considerable social and political upheaval, hence there is no value to a third party vote.
Gore never became president for many reasons. But one big reason was because a handful of fools (in Florida and New Hampshire) voted for Nader.
As mentioned, if you live in a state that is going for Romney anyway, vote for whoever you want, but don't expect it to make a difference. It never does. Seriously, here are some names for you:
Teddy Roosevelt -- Split from the Republican party because he thought it wasn't progressive enough. The Republican party then became the business party (and it remains so).
George Wallace -- Split from the Democratic Party because of segregation and civil rights (he didn't want them). The Democratic Party then moved more to the left and continued to push for civil rights and thus because the opposite of what Wallace wanted.
John Anderson -- Split from the Republican Party because Reagan was too extreme. Almost every election since then has seen the Republican Party become as extreme, if not more extreme than Reagan.
Ralph Nader -- Ran because Clinton wasn't progressive enough, and Gore was not enough of an environmentalist. The Democratic Party has since nominated more centrists and made modest progress on environmental issues -- the strongest environmentalist was probably the man Nader helped defeat.
All of these candidates have the same thing in common. Not only did they lose in the short term (playing a part in electing someone they didn't want to see elected) but they lost in the long term. Their desire to see their party move in the direction they wanted it to move never happened. The opposite happened. I know of no counter example, by the way. Maybe one of you can point to history to justify your vote. Good luck.
Savage knows a butt load about both politics and sex. Hold your nose and vote for Obama.
Something tells me it's probably mostly men who are into grapefruit-sized balls, whether it's their own or someone else's. I imagine there's some psychology at play in the grapefruit balls fetish that's kind of exclusive to people who have balls. I'm pretty sure most women are just going to think, "dude, why'd you do that to your balls?"
On the other hand, people being what they are, it stands to reason that there must be at least a few women out there who are turned on by it. And I'm sure there are kinky women who dig administering the saline solution.
If you're really interested in making major, long-term political change -- it's gotta start at the local level. No third party is going to have a chance nationally until it is well represented at the local and state levels. So the real question is, would you rather support a candidate who is likely to win and who supports some of your interests, or throw that support away out of pride and principle?
By voting for Nader et al you are essentially cutting off your nose to spite your face.
If the relationship changes, then by all means one can rethink that, but it didn't. And I DO think CAM is being taken advantage of, but possibly not intentionally. He might just figure she's being nice and hasn't clued in to her evidently heightening emotions. He might not realize he's in a unique position with her. Time to let him know that.
While there may be some ladies who love it, grapefruits must be more of a guy thing.
If your *only* concern is the economy & not any social issues at all, then brutally logistically speaking, he's not far off. I did some research on spending by the most recent administrations. Although Gore likely wouldn't have gotten us into Iraq, historically there's not actually a huge amount of difference between Dem's & Repub's spending percentagewise - ie, what portions of the national budget get allotted for XYZ thing.
So, his argument is, we're going to hell in a handbasket economically & neither candidate has a clear idea about what to do about it, so why vote for either?
I sat him down & read w/ him many articles form both sides of the fence about how the economy is slowly improving. But he basically just wanted to have a Libertarian tantrum.
In theory, fine concept. In application, less so.
The moment you deviate from the topic of the economy, even a little, there's huge ideological differences between Obama & Romney & I get so freaking pissed off when people just write that off. Especially 'cause we live in a swing state. (I miss my home state of NY, so much!)
Was wondering the same thing, then I clicked on the link Dan provided depicting a guy banging a woman with his giant balls slapping every which way against her ass. The added stimulation of a set of huge balls slapping your ass while being fucked seemed like a nice benefit.
If my state's electoral votes weren't certainly going to Obama, I'd not have protest voted for a third party, but he leads Romney by such a margin that my vote isn't going to be worth much.
And since the vast majority of people I'm surrounded by end up voting pragmatically for the Dems, I'm not worried about a surprise result upset. I don't see 800,000 people doing what I did...
If either of these things wasn't true, I'd not have voted the way I did. It felt good not to limit myself based on fear though.
The one decision I'm regretting is voting so early...a little more suspense than I'm used to, since I usually do it last minute!
Right, that's because we have a winner take all system that requires Obama to play the game if he wishes to stay in a position of accomplishing anything. Basically, we have candidates who would like to do the right thing, but would immediately lose if that puts them outside the majority. So, they do the best they can within the constraints of the winner take all the system.
The problem isn't Obama's personal politics and motives, it's winner take all. If you want 3rd, 4th, and 5th party options, you need to replace winner take all with a system of proportional representation. Until we have proportional representation, voting for 3rd parties is effectively not voting at all. It sends absolutely no message, other than who cares about the 3rd party because they won't win.
I hear that said a lot, but it ignores the realities of our political system. A 3rd party local politician can win if he's representation a small, homogeneous community of outliers. That isn't going to help at all in a national election, which isn't restricted to the outliers.
The fact is, an outlier party will never win an election that requires a majority. They can win proportional elections, however, such as those in the German and Isaeli parliamentary systems. If you want fringe parties in office, you need to lobby for a proportional election system.
The British Labour party managed to overtake the liberal party in the 1920s, and the liberals never really recuperated from that.
This "don't waste your vote" argument is old and tired -- it is the argument used by both Democrats and Republicans to keep the system as it is. If more people voted third party consistently, placed them in city state house and senate, and federal position, we would have a viable democracy where there are actual choices.
Vote for who you want not against the one you don't want.
Please don't lump "supports homeschooling" in with all the "bad stuff." Have you tried it? Have you been involved in any homeschooling communities? Lumping homeschoolers in with religious or conservative nuts is inaccurate, like lumping all straights in with homophobes. Homeschooling well done provides an education that is as good or better than a public or private school education. There are *lots* of liberal homeschoolers- half of all the homeschoolers in our community belong to the secular group, not the religious group, and some of those in the religious group share liberal values. Most of the homeschoolers, whether they claim a religion or not, are homeschooling for educational reasons, not religious reasons or a shelter-my-kid-from-anything-with-which-I-could-possibly-disagree philosophy. Do not dismiss us, especially from what i suspect is an uninformed position.
More importantly, I'm voting for McKenna.
This can happen if:
1) the 3rd party effectively co-opts the platform of one of the two-parties. The net result is still a two party system with one party switching names. Nothing but a game of musical chairs.
2) there is a revolution, usually under desperate circumstances, such as the one that put Hitler's national socialist party into power. Again, the result is still a two-party, or more likely a one-party system.
If you want multiple parties, you need proportional representation. If you want a revolution, you need to hope things get much much worse so that a majority of people start believing your "sky is falling" platform.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-run…
In fact, the field itself is so full of ridiculous quackery, that sorting them by the ideological underpinnings of their beliefs does not usually garner one additional insight or respect.
It's not impossible, but a couple letters like that ending up on a few different sex/relationship advice columns might convince a few people, still holding somewhat of a grasp on reality, to whip out their CC. Probably wrong here, but it's almost funny how it's a reverse-Penthouse Forum letter.
And in particular: "If you want a revolution, you need to hope things get much much worse" ...and also accept the enormous number of people who will be maimed and die young for your revolution. Those are the stakes.
This is just ignorance, and it's particularly infuriating to me. My wife was diagnosed with a disease this year that has no cure but can be managed through meds. We are both self-employed, so the only insurance option available in Washington state was a shitty individual plan that would have left us with $50,000 in out of pocket medical bills. Every year.
Thanks to Obama's health care reform, however, my business now qualifies for the better plans available through group coverage, and they couldn't exclude us based on her pre-existing condition.
Obama has made a huge difference to us, and millions of others who have been screwed by the previous insurance laws. A vote against Obama, whether for Romney or an unelectable 3rd party candidate, would have real, disastrous consequences to us and so many others in the same boat.
And that's not mention reproductive rights, gay rights, education, etc.
That would be a wonderful improvement to what we have. Unfortunately, our country is too divided, and the voting population so flooded with ignorance and distrust, that making structural improvements such implementing preferential voting, or getting rid of the electoral college, is all but impossible.
This sort of disfunction makes it easy to understand why throughout history great empires inevitably crumble.
Because Romney doesn't believe in:
-affordable healthcare (affordable birth control)
-Planned Parenthood (again affordable reproductive healthcare)
-Abortion (oops, your stuck as God intended)
So, that mean your left with Men and Dogs. I forgot, Romney doesn't support Same Sex Marriages.
Guess you're stuck with dogs.
And are the deaths and injuries any worse than the current situation where enormous numbers of persons in far off lands are being maimed and killed, directly due to our current system? Those atrocities are kept just beyond our eye so we don't feel the impact so great.
Anyway, who are we joking, a revolution in America? Many many decades away, if ever.
Thank you for clarifying the obvious.
I was stating Men who vote for Romney forfeit their access to Women. If some Man is voting against my best self-interests, he will never get in my pants, nor should he feel entitled to it. I was going along the lines that Women tend to vote Democratic (community) and Men tend to vote Republican (self). Of course, there are people of both genders who will vote differently. Save the blast.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/25/us/pol…
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/21/us/pol…
And for Women who vote for Romney: shame on you.
CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON
I have on - again off- again experience with various Dommes. I must say that my current mistress is fascinated with mine, enough that I might consider doing this for her. For some odd reason I am flattered by her attention to them, and wish to please her. (hell I am flattered by any female attention, no matter what it costs)
She seems to know just how much mine can be, ah, manipulated to get various responses from me, and just at the dge of what is painful. (she has never had a pair, how does she know this?)
Just my 2 cents.
SB
Anyone honestly disenchanted with the system as it stands who isn't then working to make the system better, but instead just throwing up his hands and throwing his vote away, needs to grow up. You have a responsibility as a citizen to either play your part in the system, or to play your part changing the system. There isn't a "government fairy" anymore than there is a "laundry fairy" - pick up your damn dirty underwear and start washing.
What kind of "results" are you looking for from your revolution, exactly? A historical review of revolutions suggest the most probably outcome would be a massive reduction in civil liberties, mass execution of and imprisonment of dissidents, and rule by despot. Our little American revolution, of which you should be proud, is a notable exception.
As a wise man once said, democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time. If you're looking to better people's lives, I'd suggest working to shore up our democracy against the forces that are trying to erode it. On the other hand, if you're just angry and bored and want to see humans killed, imprisoned, or otherwise oppressed because they've failed to live up to your lofty ideals, then revolution is probably the way to go.
"who are we joking, a revolution in America? Many many decades away, if ever."
I hope you're right.
I am not going to ask you to cite sources for your statistics, as your "you lack personal knowledge" note #66 and a sniff test indicate that your inviting me to engage in scat play. Instead, I am going to point out that you seem to have conflated "liberal" with good in a way that may also be problematic.
Home schooling can be incredibly useful, proper and rewarding, but given the regulations and practitioners across this country, I'm afraid you'll have to fix it or just take your lumps.
seandr, based on a perusal of that site, I am not convinced the bottom was a woman.
No, but You "Bullballs By Oxballs" are a man (if you wanna call yourself that) AND a bottom: on the bottom, slithering around with your secrets, neuroses and bullshit. Go fuck yourself and I hope your fucking treehouse burns down with you in it, you hate-inducing motherfucker!
Eat right and exercise, boys and girls.