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800 Maynard Ave S, Suite 200, Seattle, WA 98134
800 Maynard Ave S, Suite 200, Seattle, WA 98134
Also anon, this is not New York; you are right. Seattle comes nowhere close to the size, population, or density compared to the way New York moves. If you don't like that we are a bit more cautious and civil, you can always move on back.
I'd probably do the same thing if I moved to Texas but THAT'S WHY I'D NEVER MOVE THERE.
You stay civil, Seattle! I was delighted to come back for a visit this summer and introduce my children to your fair city, it was great!
Pseudo-libertarian pompous windbag.
Also, most people think they're a good driver.
You don't like traffic control devices, and I don't like the laws against felony assault. This might not go as smoothly as you expected.
Did he tailgate off into the sunset as predicted??
turns out he's an asshole
what a shocking development
move along folks, nothing to see here
Btw why do men in Pruis look so pussy whipped?
Full stop people. It'll save you money in the long run and you won't be an asshole.
Speaking of which, @5 gr8lakesgrrl: I voted for your kickass Haiku entry for DOTW!
Enjoy the Halloween candy and lightbulbs!
What, are you stupid? He said California Roll…..you slow down and look, you just don't come to complete stop if no one is coming. Maybe you're too stupid to do them safely, but some of us can handle it. Sorry you wet your pull-ups
But taking it upon yourself to chase down a bad driver, and who knows what? Whats the plan? Yell at them? Shoot at them? OOPS! Got your face beat in by someone you should not be messing with?
Driver #2 way more dangerous than #1. Making big problems out of small ones.
Thoughtlessly and too full of self-righteous indignation to think it through. Good job you dope.
I have to agree with Mr. Anonymous. FU.
Think about that next time you chase down a stranger to impose your world view. It might save you some teeth.
Like, people in California are just so laid back all they do is kind of briefly stop and roll through a stop sign. It's the kind of stop they do down there. California roll is strictly sushi.
That was exactly how I felt the first 2 weeks I lived in Seattle, until I went to take the test for a WA drivers license and I found out about some unusual laws... Do you know that in WA, everybody is required by law to STOP when a pedestrian starts crossing the street, whether they are crossing legally or jay walking (or at least everyone within several lanes of traffic has to stop)?
Which is also one reason you are in more danger of getting a ticket for jaywalking in Seattle than anywhere else in America. Those drivers want to be sure if there is a cop around, that you are the one who gets the ticket, and not them. And I believe that *does* fit the definition of passive-aggressive Seattle behavior. Welcome! and be sure to get that driver's license within 30 days of moving here.
That's the law anywhere in the country. If a pedestrian is in the street, drivers have to stop whether the pedestrian is there legally or not. It would hardly make sense to have a free for all on our streets.
I agree that Washington state has some dumb driving laws though. For example, it's legal for pedestrians to cross mid block as long as they're not "impeding the flow of traffic." What the hell does that even mean? And it's legal for bicyclists to ride two abreast. Having grown up in California, I was flabbergasted by that rule.
http://transportationnation.org/2012/02/…
Well that's not a California Roll/stop. A California roll to the morons on this thread comparing it to running a light at speed is when u slow down for stop sign but don't come to a complete stop when you see the intersection is clear. Aka a rolling stop.
Now, go change your pull-ups and wait for the traffic guard.
Plus, we would never do anything called a "California stop." We hate California.
Obviously, none of you drive: what's important is that you know you are clear to proceed through an intersection. It's not actually that important that your wheels fully stop for a full second or whatever.
I make complete stops every time and think that california stops are bad form. But if you're paying attention, a roll is not the end of the world.
50 people overreacting to this is just too funny. You are all exactly the prissy assholes anon was talking about.
So now instead of trolls in the comments section, we are cutting out the middle man and being trolled right in the actual letter.
Efficient.
I've almost been hit in a x-walk.
Anon~ when you get in a car wreck, I hope you are the only one killed. Fuck off.
I'm also amused that so few people are commenting on the recklessness of the other driver. Tailgating and swerving lanes at highway speeds could cause a lot of damage, possibly to a lot of cars. Neither driver is completely in the right on this one.
I know that in Seattle there are a lot of corners obscured by bushes. At intersections like that, I'd come to a full stop, or at least a very slow California stop (I suspect that many of the commenters here actually do very slow California stop and don't actually bring the momentum of their vehicle to a full and complete stop). But lets face it, if you can see four stop signs, and see 1/2 block in every direction, a California stop doesn't have to be any more dangerous than a full stop. It's very location-dependant.
Posted by keshmeshi on November 15, 2012 at 1:01 AM · Report
No Keshmeshi, in most places you only have to stop if the pedestrian is in your lane. In Washington, you have to stop if they are within 2 or 3 lanes (I live in Oregon, so I forget the details). And so in most states, nobody would ever think to stop for someone who was not in their lane of traffic. In Seattle, you set foot in a 4 lane street, and everyone stops.
On the other hand if you get hit by a car while jay-walking in Texas, the cops will give you a ticket in your hospital bed (if you survive) just to establish who was legally at fault. And not much is going to happen to the driver (at least legally, of course their insurance premiums, if they have insurance, will go thru the roof). And I know that in California the law says the pedestrian has the right of way, but that law is NEVER enforced, and there are many drivers there who will drive aggessively at a pedestrian that pisses them off, such as swerving towards them or gunning the engine, just to intimidate the pedestrians.
It would be awesome if all you rule-obeyers would stop attempting to prevent others from breaking the rules. You aren't a cop. If you want to obey all the rules, great. If I don't, that's on me and I run the risk of a ticket.
Oh and please stop driving in the left lane. It's there for passing slow asses like you!
and then back on, nearly causing the tailgater to crash."
Of course Idiot #1 is now responsible for ALL further actions of Idiot#2.
How COULD Idiot#2 control himself, Idiot#3?