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Random people coming on the board to throw in a line Chairman, often brings interesting results.
sb53 - Sometimes poop is harder to fully clean up if it's on the soft side (I think nocute alluded to this) but adding a fiber supplement can help bulk it up. Good luck, sb53!
In which she celebrates the blood of women and makes it all very sexy. Our Dan had a staring role, a small one.
i think this whole attack on sex workers recently, that is putting the wind up everybody.. Is a part of the back lash re same sex marriage.
Even though sex workers assist some members of
the "freak out at anything" group, and they cut off their noses to spite their faces, the passing of same sex marriage has stirred 'em up.
It is just such a delusion to keep sex work illegal. Such a big lie.
But I am also a bit of a hypocrite about that advice, there have been times when I was ready to dive into someones junk and veered off to the side after seeing some TP stuck on or other unappetising bit of debris but still didn't say anything because it was not a regular occurrence. Bodies are gross now and then, you have to take some of it in stride but there are limits.
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/410…
It's a fascinating field and the ramifications could be incredible, especially for cancers that we currently cannot screen for reliably. (There is no reliable screening for ovarian cancer, for example, so a diagnosis is most often not made until the cancer has reached stage 3.)
I tend to wear skirts -- no underwear, unless it's winter and I'm also wearing tights -- and it's therefore very easy to simply take a cupped handful of water and swipe front and back after a trip to the toilet. This in addition to a daily shower, FCL, so you don't think that is what passes for my full hygiene habits. And needless to say, if I've pooped between the shower and the sex, there's a more comprehensive wash up involving soap and washcloths.
@1 and @6 LavaGIrl: LOL---I know, right?
Joe, you truly outdid (outdrew?) yourself this week! That's my kind of family!
@205 Ms.Adventure: I'm wondering if I also got infected by BV at some point during my one marriage from hell, and if my abusive, highly stressful monogamous relationship itself had anything to do with my acquired vaginal funkiness way back then. I'm grateful to have a clean bill of health nowadays from my gynecologist. How comforting that my most recent pelvic exam was the most surprisingly painless one ever in 24 years(!!), and after my asking her if there was any weird smell, my ob-gyn just gave me a bemused look and said, 'No.' Healthier is definitely happier.
@218 nocute - Haha! I'm not freaked about any other posters' hygiene. I know there isn't just one way that is best for everyone anyway. I've had partners tell me they wish all women were as conscientious and other partners tell me they wish I'd be more flexible about it. One guy went so far as to say he wished I'd go to a hygiene reprogramming camp so I could stink it up for him once in a while.
You will not be surprised to hear I'm in complete agreement about washing up, not just wiping, if there was a poop between shower and sex. I thought that was another issue for me to take to reprogramming camp, but maybe that's perfectly normal. As drjones so eloquently said, bodies are gross now and then.
lol
@222 ChairmanOfTheBored: A squirt gun filled with Purel? Those sound cool!
I'll mostly ignore your "even a woman" comment. I am not handy myself but know other women who are very handy.
FCL... are you comparing a popcorn ceiling to the infamous glass ceiling?
One can certainly find nice and comfortable women’s cotton underwear, yet my years of research at the faculty of comparable underwear led me to conclude that generally women's underwear sit tighter on the body. And it’s not necessarily because they weren’t designed for folks with different genitalia. Those annoying elastics around the thighs often kill me, and I have fairly thin legs. Talk about circulation.
Men’s briefs, not to mention boxers, tend to be looser and are all are made of cotton.
It seems to often be young women with a bit of fire who jump on and stir the pot. The porn debate, keeps resurfacing. Obviously these young women haven't got the memo to shut the hell up about it. To just love those porn moves their guys try out on them and smile sweetly.
If I'm not producing enough lubrication naturally, spit (mine or my partner's) works as long as there's enough of it. It's sexier in my mind to apply spit (to fingers, to palm, directly to genital region) than to apply lube - it's more intimate and connected to our bodies. But it "runs out" or dries out more quickly than lube, and there's something erotic about how slippery a good lube feels.
Comments, all?
Re ceiling
my vote is for "popcorn". (BTW this term is a technical one for those who have never refurbished a home built during the 1980's)
PPS: for those following my drama;.. Friday night "date night" was a dud. Rejected the bubble-bath ("I took a shower earlier today") suggestion. She fell asleep snoring at 43 minutes into the bodyrub "seduction" plan. D.I.Y. finish for me, and a good nights sleep.
And for PIV, can you live with the results of her morning shower? I'm sorry she fell asleep during your massage.
If that's the bar scene you're referring to?
I actually find it somewhat insulting* when a lover licks their fingers prior to fingering me. Like they're saying, Your pussy isn't wet enough. If it isn't wet enough, then either we need to make out more before you go for the handjob; or you can just dip a finger into my vagina, where the lube is produced. No spit necessary.
(*Though logically I know not to take it personally)
I haven't watched commercial television in the past 15 years, but I somehow thought that the douche commercials of my youth were a thing of the past.
I still think that American women are still picking up the idea that their vaginas smell bad.
I also have discovered that shaving of pubic hair is much more common in the US than in Europe -- as is circumcision. Over here, Americans are generally viewed as ridiculously hygiene-obsessed.
If you had the names of a Candida film devoid of gay action or limited to gay guy action, I'd find that helpful. Otherwise, your voice blends with a typical male response to women's voices regarding porn. Defensive. Afraid your resource would be damaged. What I'm saying is, that if you listen to the complaints of women about porn, it's possible to add to the available content enough to satisfy most straight women, instead of subtract the content you are fond of. If men ever stop arguing and listen.
Future - I meant the ghost of George Carlin.
Still Thinking [237] - I work similarly... although I would say that I prefer much less external stuff after coming, a really light touch can set me off again... and that internal can feel very nice even when I'm still getting warmed up, as long as the external is good enough and my body is in a good position and the action is not abrupt. I'm sure all women are shaped a bit different and feel differently though. I mostly wanted to clarify that the vaginal walls themselves don't have many nerves and don't feel nice to be rubbed... it's pushing into the wall and rubbing or pushing the clitoris that feels nice during penetration, or maybe indirect nerve stimulation when you're pushing in deeper regions... I am under the impression this is still a new idea and Freud's vaginal/clitoral orgasm bs is still lingering...
Sb53 - And why didn't you wake her up with a greedy hard on? Perhaps you could suggest spanking her on your next date night... since she fell asleep and missed seeing your tight orgasming body, it may be a better way to stay awake... and get some blood flowing to the right areas...
Yes, this is the bar scene indeed. Not sure about the background anymore, but the surprise genitalia is what stuck with me. You know, the juicy part... And thanks for the “very clever table-turning exercise indeed.”
I'm fully aware you're not a certified organic on either side, my analogy goes to LW which may be a gold star straight man who likes to play with a penis every once in a while.
One request if I may: it will be easier to recognize whom you're communicating with if you could also add the name in addition to the comment number. Thanks again and I'm glad Chelsea lost.
I often feel like saying: "And that's my last post [of the day / in this thread / on this site/ addressed to that person / whatever]". And over the years, I've said that and lived to regret saying it. So now, instead of posting that kind of promise, I write a post-it instead and put it on my computer, where I can see it, but the rest of the world doesn't.
Don't know about now. I don't remember seeing my daughter get into any issues re it.
If a person keeps their body healthy enough, the scents will be fine.
Every fucking where. Female form as object. Even in an add for an Art Museum. Still. Today. Right. Not much has really shifted. I saw a show re porn on tv, this young man had seen porn and was keen to go play. If though, he put his hand down a girl's knickers and felt Hair,
He wasn't going any further. A young man, eroticised by porn, not including attraction to a female with her pubic hair. That is fucked.
Lava @ 255
Not to mention how painful and scratchy are all those pubic hair "procedures" one is supposed to follow nowadays. Yes, twice, never again.
I think a lot of it has to do with the capitalist and free market roots of this country.
At some point advertisers realized the best way to sell a product is by playing dirty with the target audience- preying on their weaknesses and insecurities- and this culture could flourish in such an environment.
It is directed towards all people and body issues of any kind- under arm, breath, grey hair, white teeth and so on- are always exploited to the max.
That said, Lava was still right to point to porn as the pubic hair enemy number one.
In other hairy news: It is assumed that women started shaving their legs as a faux fashion statement in Paris during World War 2. Many couldn’t afford stockings, and one may assume supply was pretty slim to begin with, so the second best thing was to shave the legs and draw a line along the back as if it is the stocking’s seam.
“Cultural Lingerie” is another class I was teaching while at the Comparative Underwear Program- CUP. As some of you may recall one of the most celebrated sports events is named after us.
And Nov. 3 will mark the 101 anniversary of the first bra.
I’m afraid this is not going to be my last comment for today.
I have never shaved my pubic hair. I love my pubic hair. I may be one of the last standing who does love their own soft skin and soft hair, such an aid to self and other sex..holding the fort to the end. I'll never be turned. Never.
Still's a shill
Has no will
To just get
Herself wet.
If just wishing
Did the trick,
I'd stop splishing
To take a dick.
It doesn't appear that I am relating very well in a lot of threads, lately.
Happy weekend, Dan and everybody in SL---thanks for continually good
reads, and catch you next week.
--griz
Lava @255: Everyone has their own preferences. If this guy felt pubic hair and was repulsed, it's his loss. The girl is better off without him. Unless of course he is waxing himself head to toe. Then perhaps he's a fetishist, not a hypocrite.
Also on this show, which I only watched five minutes of it was so tragic, a nurse talking of all these girls who come in to have their pussies cut up, cause they don't have pussies like the girls doing porn.
I do get it Fan, when the porn revolution was hitting, I was busy having babies. Did not have a computer.
I wasn't imposed upon to shave any of myself by any man, as a young woman. That Injunction hadn't come in yet.
funny... but reading your comment made me smile. Amazing how what we THINK we are doing... and how our partner perceives what we are doing might be total opposites. Often, when i am was with a partner who was not all that naturally wet.... i would lick my finger for many reasons. One of them (if you can believe it) was because i did not want her to feel remotely self conscious that she wasn't really wet enough to allow me to slip my finger inside to get more natural lube... Think of it as Female ED.... meaning that i didn't want her to worry about it... in much the same way i would tell a women NOT to make a big deal out of a slow moving erection... but instead improvise.
I hope none of those partners were secretly insulted. lol. Sometimes external foreplay doesn't generate enough wetness all on its own. Enter lube (or saliva) which i would consider the same.... except i prefer saliva because i don't want to taste the lube later...it is not a horrible taste...but completely kills the naturally amazing taste of my partner... so its not a welcome addition in my eyes....
CMD, I meant to tell you something weeks ago, re lipstick. I'm sure your elders would approve?
Just I apply multiple shades at once. Depending on the colours I like at the time. At the moment I'm using three shades. Sometimes a gloss over these.
Master Malcolm is an alright bloke, for a conservative.
We lose another clown from the world stage. Please.
It's shifted completely from Greek culture, they were all about the nude male form, and found aggressive female sexuality to be offensive. I think it would be nice if the bodies and sexuality of both genders were celebrated by a culture, instead of one or the other. Oh and I like period sex because it seems to help cramps and make my period shorter.. the mess can be a drawback though..
CMD - Wikipedia says that women started shaving their legs when hemlines rose. And perhaps because male athletes were already shaving their legs...
Hun - Just to be helpful, I'll mention Eyes of desire, one of her films that I have seen. It's totally devoid of any gay action.
It looks like the only nod to gay women over straight women in this was a woman with a man in an evening dress, and the solo scenes are all women by themselves or stripshows for the men. It's still so old the actors still weren't very attractive, but I admit it looks better than most competition even with these drawbacks.
You manufacture facts out of thin air, and then imagine others do the same.
Hostile. Quite the accusation, considering the absolute lack of evidence. Makes me want to return with something like "You are hostile to porn criticism because you can't convince real live women to fuck around with your awkward ugly self. Criticism of porn is conflated with a threat to the only sex life you can manage." Think that would be a good idea?
I have low tolerance for condescending bs. Hope it made you feel as good as I felt bad. Or what's the point, right?
Sex for period cramps, makes sense.
Miss N had a nagging cough last week but went to work normally etc. On Sunday she wanted to go to urgent care which we did. She has a bad case of bronchitis. The NP prescribed inhaler, penicillin, and cough meds. Sorry about the complaining.
BiDan@262
“I shall endeavour.” Oh yes, I always loved fine British silk lingerie.
Lava @ 267
My official lipstick for the past two years or so is MAC Lustre “Sweetie” A32.
Elders tested and approved.
http://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/MAC-LUSTRE-LI…
Philo @ 251
I still stand by the French stockings and the legs they supposedly surrounded. And just to clarify,I don't shave mine and not insistent on my partners.
BiDan @ 273
I’ll skip the coffee, freshly brewed oral sex will suffice. .
Sorry to hear the news. Be nice and helpful and caring and loving and patient.
They're all related to good relationships.
That's interesting. We can fuck maybe 1 in 3 times without lube of some sort, and often it's applied after we try without. Think it depends on time of the cycle, extent of foreplay, and whether I'm wearing a sexy outfit.
As far as I can tell, the only difference is whether or not the object of desire is in a context where he/she wants his/her body to be celebrated.
(sorry for off topic)
slitheriness( sic), then a man can lick his finger. To assume off the bat , that nice wetness won't meet you is not putting much stock in how hot she is for you.
My life is sans new man as such. A few encounters, all life experience. I'm not in the market just yet for a whole one of those. It all gets so controlling so quickly. And I enjoy my freedom. And I'm free to watch and learn. After thirty yrs of difficult couple hood, it's been empowering.
I do appreciate men differently without one up close to get cross with.
Any empathy with the person objectified is short circuited. They are an object onto which people project their desire.
This is different to looking at a good looking person and taking in their humanity as well as how they look.
The Ad I reacted to, which disappeared soon after was offensive to me. For a hippy stuff art show. Picture of a girl's back, beautiful coat on and her cute little Bum sticking out beneath the coat. Her face slightly turned.
Implication, sly one I think, is the hippies were just about sex. And that is not the truth. And using a picture like that?
On going discussion Sean. Pushing back the Patriarchy. The culture as designed by men for men. It's taking a while.
Yes. Master Malcolm is much much better than that fighting dog Tony. He was a total freak show.
MM has the rainbow seat in Sydney, so he's very pro gay marriage. He is charismatic in his language, a little like Obama. But a conservative.
He has some worrying bits to him. Very bright though. If he listens and learns, we could improve our standing in the world. It is still a right wing government.
I'm glad Novak won. Roger continues to amaze, and Serena's loss was surprising.
" lube", Hunter? I thought lube came out of a container.
You think women are just little things who don't know their own bodies?
The review is supposed to really reflect the discussion, it's not an avenue for your personal slants on issues. Though, who am I kidding.
It was your sentence re trans* women that amazed me.
The guy lies to himself about the people he is sexually attracted to. The trans* women he is attracted to. You try to reduce it all to some smart arsery.
For the women's side, the strange thing was that someone other than Ms Williams, S got the biggest share of the destiny pie. Breaking through in her 49th and final major, having the two biggest Ws removed the round before meeting them, and the quality wins in between over her favourite opponent (Ms Stosur, whom she's owned head-to-head), the as-unsuited-to-the-US-Open-as-Ms-Safina-was-to-Wimbledon Ms Kvitova and the depleted Ms Halep, whose previous two rounds had had the effect of a speed duel on a front-running horse - Ms Pannetta's win has that sort of feel to it. Ms Williams' loss felt as if it had been brewing all year, and it just took the inspiration of the all-Italian final (good on the USTA for playing that up) to give an opponent the push to complete the win. It was one of those flatter days that one gets well into one's thirties, and it wasn't one of those opponents who gets her pumped up. Had she played, say, Ms Sharapova that round - done deal. Best match of the tournament - Azarenka-Kerber.
I can admire the Djokovic game, but can't enjoy his matches because his on-court persona is far too offputting. He reminds me of Kim Clijsters, but with 3/2 the determination and 2/3 the niceness (though he does get credit for shaking off that highly unsportsmanlike parental attitude). Mr Federer reminds me of Ken Rosewall, except for his (RF's) off-court gamesmanship. Of the trio, the Federer-Nadal matches were vastly superiour. Best match of the tournament - Anderson-Murray.
And re: Lava and everyone else, I just don't see what is so "offensive" about a guy thinking, "You know, maybe my gal wouldn't enjoy me rubbing her delicates with my totally dry and scratchy finger, maybe it would be nice to moisten it first." Its not an insult, and sure, it's probably not even necessary if she's wet already, but what the hell. Better safe than sorry, he's just being considerate.
This whole "spit or no spit" string reminds me of "Queer Eye For The Straight Guy" where they used to go apoplectic whenever some guy would, *gasp!* "shave against the grain!" Given all the sweaty, juicy things you MIGHT do in the course of making love, licking your finger is really a nonissue.
I don't know that I would be offended or insulted, but I do think one should check out the situation before making adjustments for a negative situation that may not exist. I really like it when a partner feels how wet I am, because it lets him know how much he's turned me on, and I guess I would feel cheated of giving that confirmation if someone decided to preemptively wet a finger--and he would be deprived of that confirmation of my arousal elicited by him.
But I also know that I have been lucky in regards to my ability to produce enough lubrication, even (so far) in menopause. I know that not everyone else is that lucky, and that I may not always get wet this easily. Under those circumstances, a spit-moistened finger is considerate.
Perhaps the best approach would be to wait to use the s-m f until you know it will be necessary or helpful. If you know that your partner has difficulty getting wet enough from past experiences with her, then, sure, start with it. But if you don't know your partner's physiological responses too well yet, I'd say wait and see if it would be needed.
But it's not something worth getting my panties in a twist over. If someone did try to lead with the old s-m f, I could gently stop him, direct his finger to me and point out that it's not needed. And then we'd get on with the fun.
I actually find it somewhat insulting* when a lover licks their fingers prior to fingering me. Like they're saying, Your pussy isn't wet enough...
(*Though logically I know not to take it personally)
A statement which had no further support until Lava @280: "To assume off the bat, that nice wetness won't meet you is not putting much stock in how hot she is for you", and Nocute @297: "I do think one should check out the situation before making adjustments for a negative situation that may not exist. I really like it when a partner feels how wet I am, because it lets him know how much he's turned me on, and I guess I would feel cheated of giving that confirmation if someone decided to preemptively wet a finger." Both of these ladies have expressed what I meant more clearly than I did, so I thank them.
I must say that pre-wetting isn't common; probably the result of someone having a previous partner who produced far less natural lubrication than I do. Which is why I could logically convince myself to not take it as a personal slight. And you'll be pleased to know that I have recently told this partner that I would greatly prefer for him to extract any additional lube he may need from inside my vagina.
*****
Ms Fan - I'm sorry you had to miss so much of the week.
And yes, I miss Nadal as well.
Chairman, as I understodd this conversation, some were saying they didn't use spit for masturbation. Using spit sometimes for sex, that's different.
Venn @303: Thank you! I should be back into the swing of things from now on. Busy in a good way is good, but it's nice to be home and back into my routine :)
i know... right? hahaha
We get a whole column about smelly and dry twats and I'm insensitive.
Like I said. You guys bring a hard cock to the table, we'll do the rest.
I liked BDF's guess that not all women know that pussies aren't supposed to smell strongly. Except once a month. If BV is truly a widespread problem, I think that women should be encouraged to check their smell- like checking your breath. I also see no problem with men asking if a blemish might be a health concern... but their concern should be founded on reasonable grounds, simply disliking something doesn't mean that it is unhealthy. I suppose the moral of the story is that if a man isn't going down, a woman would be wise to check her scent before dumping him. A healthy pussy only stinks to someone who isn't into pussy.
Also Philo @251: If I were ill, or just not in the mood, being woken up by a "greedy hard on" or spanked would get my partner kicked to the couch. Sorry! (Being woken up by a freshly brewed coffee and some oral sex, now you might be talking.)
I like your wake up idea. But I didn't say anything about waking by spanking... and if I fell asleep during foreplay, I would appreciate being woken up while the hard on is still there, instead of missing out.