Control Tower

Bitching About Craigslist


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"But Matisse, what if a woman is so poor that she doesn't have five dollars, a phone, or a credit card, and she has to post an ad right now?"

Then that woman probably doesn't get many chances to check Craigslist anyway!
Rachael F., unless you're hollering for your lost puppy, it's "hear, hear," NOT "here, here."
People also often forget that you need a computer and an internet connection (or, failing that, an internet-enabled phone) to post things into "free" websites. You also need electricity, for that matter. We shouldn't lose perspective, there's a breach in the digital era between those who can actually access the internet and those who don't.
In my opinion, after crossing that breach, 5 dollars more or less don't make any difference in any business that is ever going to feed someone, be it sex work or otherwise.
BITCH, BITCH, BITCH. who cares?
A very good article. I read about that and wondered what the callgirls thought of it. yes, 5 dollars compared to what they make an hour doesn't seem like much!
For women like me, who provide an erotic service that is not prostitution, but who still wish to remain anonymous, the CL change leaves us in a difficult situation in terms of finding business. I'm not sure it's appropriate for me to advertise on erotic service boards, because those seem geared toward prostitutes only.

I don't have a problem with CL deciding to run its business anyway it wants, but I do think that this is basically a move by governments to make CL the legal gatherer of information that the governments can't legally gather.

My response, rather than to whine about CL, is to produce new streams of income.
Lindsey - what exactly do you do that's erotic but not prostitution? If it's not illegal, then why worry about anonymity?
To notarobot-
It could be stuff like nude dancing, or camera shows. Things that are technically not illegal, but you would never want your mom finding out.
An additional consideration is if the woman wants to have a chance at a "normal" career in the future. It could seriously hurt career prospects if word gets out among employers that an employee used to strip on camera, or whatever it is that Lindsey does.
Notarobot, are you fucking kidding me? Have you been reading MM's column for long...??? There's a whole lotta bizness that falls under "erotic" and not "illegal". Read up, my friend.
I'm not stupid but look CL isn't going to publish advertisers name on billboards or anything. They'll only give to cops with a court order or whatever. unless you're doing something that gets you busted then, no damage. I'm not saying no one could find out I'm just saying CL ad records isn't probably gonaa be the way they do. More like someone you know will see you and tell freinds/family/whatever.
Hey !! That Lindsay whore has it right- she's pretty smart.
Re Internet access: Library.
You wrote: "Does it create more hoops for advertisers to jump through? Yes. But the hoops aren't many nor high, so it's no life-ruiner for most women who choose to do sex work."

Are you hoop jumping for a living?
Funny how those who support (through governement taxes), the creation of hoops for groups of workers; new barriers like those implemented by craigslist, you yourselves don't have transverse. And who is going to hold the government accountable for the 'exploited children'?
Shut up woman. Your mouth is only good for one thing. Polishing my cock to a bright shine and taking what I gives ya.

You will enjoy it.

See! I can be a professional "domme" to!

You are a degenerate and lame. Mainstreaming of "kinksterism" is stupid.
I mean people always find a way to get sex as well as sell it, so I don't see this as being a huge change. Besides there's always forms of other media to post in or use for advertisement.
ecce homo: I doubt sincerely you'd be able to make a living as a professional dominant, as your proven ability to be verbally abusive and dismissive via anonymous comments does not actually qualify you to be a sex worker. It just qualifies you to be an abusive, dismissive jerk; maybe you should stick with that.

Oh, and it's "too", as in also - not "to".
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It is really juvenile and irritating
Ashley go away. No one likes you. Keep up with these juvenile games and see what happens.
anyone ever look at myspace?
Its sex sex sex.....
So why don't the sex workers just pass the fee off onto their customers? Are prices that cut-throat that they don't dare increase even a penny lest they lose all their business to the service station across the street?

Admittedly clueless here, but it seems like that's the way legitimate businesses conduct themselves.
There's plenty of free sites out there geared toward erotic services of ALL types. And any intelligent person looking to hire someone for any erotic service should go to one of those sites and NOT Craigslist anyway. Craigslist is full of scams and rip-off artists. These other sites offer a community and reviews that can vouch for the truth (or lack of truth), in the ads posted. try for a start.
I'm no lawyer, but it seems that with prepaid cell phones and credit cards (I keep seeing commercials for the "green dot" thing), a girl could do what she needs to do and remain anonymous. Don't they have to provide a way for clients to get in touch anyhow? And doesn't that jeopardize anonymity?
Craigslist isn't where smart clients and providers hook-up anyway. And Give me a break. I though MM knew something about the sex industry. CL is 50% skanks and 25% cops, Robs, and fakes. Professionals don't use CL, ever. So I don't see how a change in policy at CL will affect the quality of service offered in our fair city.
As much as MM crows about being a sex industry expert, she sure is weak when it comes to actual boots on the ground knowledge. Why do I get the impression she has more imagination than experience?
Recent advances in financial services technology have all-but-nullified the "i can't get credit" argument. There are options for pre-paid credit cards available to people who can't (or don't want to) get a conventional card. Google "pre-paid credit card" for multiple options.
If the Union wants to do something supportive, it could provide a financial service for its members through business credit cards they can use to make purchases, including Craigslist ads.
As much as I want to feel for you, I really can't on this issue.

I had an ex-bf post my cell phone number and the home phone numbers of my grandparents on Craigslist under erotic services over and over because I had the audacity to dump him for cheating on me. Flagging posts isn't fast enough to keep constant phone calls at bay, and the police work to stop him went on for 8 months+. A simple phone call verification would have stopped him in his tracks.

(Turns out that little stunt is a felony, and he's lost his apartment and job because of it, but that kind of vindication wasn't worth the aggravation of my family.)
Is letting a guy masturbate while you nude dance, illegal??
so what are the new websites for these people to post on?