Columns Mar 25, 2010 at 4:00 am

HUMP! 2010

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@104, anything that penetrates the body is considered sex. Seeing anyone else naked is considered sexual. That's a religious point of view. I'll find chapter and verse if you're interested. But it needs to be taken in context. Sometimes you need to be undressed and 'poked' for health reasons. So, what about health exams? They're not sexual, not for me at least but if you want to be technical those exams would be have to be sexual as well.

Point is, there aren't many virgin women left after pelvic exams. A lot of guys have had erections during prostate exams too. So, it's a pretty mixed up world we live in. All have been 'corrupted' one way or another. No good to lay judgement on anyone. But it is good to be honest with yourself and your loved ones.

And if a couple has an extra long engagement to get married then yes they've probably been somewhat sexual. If they've had anal and or oral they aren't virgins.

Denial in sexuality is pretty strong in guys that consider themselves straight that have had gay sex and hetero couples that have experimented with all kinds of sex except vaginal.
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Wannabe Catholic, you are so full of shit it's almost funny. Almost.

@106 -- "Virginity" is a concept that some people find useful, but is subject to enormous semantic variation. Colloquially, many people feel it has to do with penile/vaginal intercourse, but that definition does not account for same-sex experiences, nor does it convey any useful information for the teaching of risk-reduction or safer-sex practices. Personally, I find it it an entirely useless concept based in the idea that sex changes people, more often for the worse.

Furthermore, if "anything that penetrates the body is considered sex," then I just had sex with a tuna sandwich, and masturbated with a Q-tip this morning. And if "Seeing anyone else naked is considered sexual," then every person in the history of the world was sexually assaulted the moment they emerged from the womb. I am so sorry that you consider the naked form so erotic that even seeing it is a sexual act.... at this point in your life you have no doubt been a repeat sexual predator. But I'd be hard pressed to find a single other person who agrees with you, even in the sex-negative, sanctimonious and egregiously hypocritical Catholic church.

@103 -- As for your contention that you speak for "many women," I'd appreciate it if you'd respectfully shut up and allow us to speak for ourselves. I am in love with a "practicing bi guy" and find it hot as shit that he's bi. To me, identification with any marginalized sexuality indicates a) sexual open-mindedness, and b) a thoughtful and engaged relationship with one's sexuality, rather than adhering to social norms. HOT!

(Also, for the record the men that you're talking about who "just want as a woman as a 'facade'" are not bi, they're gay. And no one said anything about beards.)
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Leviticus stated any man that lays with another man or beast as if it were a woman should be put to death. Can't remember which chapter stated that children should never see there parents naked and vice versa because if memory serves me right it's considered perverse.

Can I take the former literally? Of course not. I only go with the ten commandments and what Christ said. Everything else is just contradictory and confusing.

As for the tuna sandwhich equated to sex well that's definitely stretching what I said but that's alright.

Anyhow, some people have stuck cucumbers up there ass or vagina
and yes, that would be considered sexual. Would you consider that sexual?
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Leviticus stated any man that lays with another man or beast as if it were a woman should be put to death. Can't remember which chapter stated that children should never see there parents naked and vice versa because if memory serves me right it's considered perverse.

Can I take the former literally? Of course not. I only go with the ten commandments and what Christ said. Everything else is just contradictory and confusing.

As for the tuna sandwhich equated to sex well that's definitely stretching what I said but that's alright.

Anyhow, some people have stuck cucumbers up there ass or vagina
and yes, that would be considered sexual. Would you consider that sexual?
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http://www.uexpress.com/dearabby/?uc_ful…

WWDS? What would Dan say? (to the sexaholic)
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Your comment about the catholic church i agree to a extent. I dont like the roman catholic church.
The only thing i have to rebuttal is that Lutherans (i think) and angelical priests are allowed to marry and have sex etc.
If it wasnt for the R. catholic church being all stupid about this one line in the bible and their urge for power we wouldnt have this problem.
Oh and the most important reason the church made the change was that priests where becoming rich and having kids and becoming lords and barons.
That's the reason this shits happening.
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@Wannabe Catholic

[sigh]

The tuna sandwich metaphor is not stretching what you said one iota, it's pointing out that what you said is patently absurd. You made a broad, sweeping and totally ridiculous statement... I showed how totally ridiculous it was.

Same thing with your assertion that "naked = sexual." I did not say that masturbation isn't sexual. I said that your sweeping generalization was poorly thought out and easily refuted.

How old are you? You seem to lack basic reading comprehension and debate skills that most adults have mastered.
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I think the only definition of virgin that makes sense would be a person who has neither deliberately given someone else an orgasm, nor has had someone else deliberately give them one. I think sex has to be interactive in some way to be sex (so no, an ordinary pelvic exam doesn't count or at least it should not count.) But even that's problematic because then how do you categorize cyber or phone sex? I suppose you could specify that the other person has to be in the same room with you if you wanted to exclude those categories.
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So let me get this straight, your advice for someone who wishes to discredit a person for telling the truth is to slander them. Nice. I expect that kind of ends-justify-the-means logic from the hypocritical d-bags you are constantly calling out, but not from you. How sad.
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@12 SIIMA is not "a girl" they identify as a man so please be a bit more careful when you respond to trans people.
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@18 maybe you aren't bi, but some people are. just because a bi person might have a preference for heterosexual sex, doesn't discredit their identity as bisexual. i don't understand why there are so much ignorance around bisexuals surrounding this column.

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