Columns Dec 16, 2015 at 4:00 am

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Xmas blues in general
Some times I wonder if the pain caused by that bearded dude when I was few days old meant to liberate me from on going shopping expeditions in crowded malls that play the same annoying music.
That said I'm sure many of you find this to be a festive and happy time and wish you the best. I also wish the best for those who aren't happy for some reason and hope that they too will be happy.
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@85 LavaGirl: I could use another drink, too. Sending big hugs and VW beeps your way.
I keep praying for a meteor to fall on the GOP, too, like a house falling on the Wicked Witch of the West in the Wizard of Oz. Maybe that would convince the climate change deniers finally that global warming is indeed, real.
@87 BiDanFan: I know, right?
@94 nocutename: Thank you and bless you. You're right----middle school is an area I'd prefer to forget. Onward and upward, Wild Things, big hugs and VW beeps.
@93 vennominon and @101 CMDwannabe----I guess the Party Line was over my head (technologically)...?
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@102 CMDwannabe: I think at some point we all feel some blues. Wishing you, Dan, and everyone here all the very best and warmest of festive seasonal greetings, big hugs, VW beeps, and a cup of your favorite beverage for toasting! Happy Beethoven's Birthday, and the luscious William Bradley Pitt celebrates the Big 5-2 tomorrow.

Griz Update: Wish me luck, folks. I just transferred my investments to another firm in my current hometown. Here's hoping that 2016 brings me reliably steady and sustainable music-related employment, maybe a few dividends---and fewer tax penalties. At least there are good people nearby who are willing to work with--and for me to help ensure that my life choices are smart and fruitful in the long run. Encouraging to know I haven't been totally stupid financially.
Rain, rain, rain---so time for Griz to return to Symphony II and a Finale collaboration project.
I will need to venture out with my beloved VW when the sun comes out again.
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@85 LavaGirl: A neighbor friend has been loaning me her DVD movies---I'm on to the star-studded Bobby, set in 1968 about JFK's equally ill-fated brother, Bobby Kennedy.
Then it's the annual Christmas flick line up, starting with It's a Wonderful Life, and Miracle
on 34th Street, and of course the animated A Charlie Brown Christmas and How the Grinch
Stole Christmas. I could easily pass for a wide-eyed Cindy Lou Who--or Sally Brown right about now.
@102 CMDwannabe: You're right, too, about the over-commercialism. I try to avoid the malls however possible--especially during the holidays.
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I don't know----I might be especially wrapped up in bittersweet sentiment, too, clinging on to all my present loves, memories, good times when I was eons younger and my beloved parents were still alive and adventurous.
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Aunt Zelda @ 103
and also Venn
Maybe Venn can tell you what you've missed, or didn't in regards to party line
Venn- interested in your take on it on an apreciative intellectual level. Feel free to express your thoughts any way you choose, no repercussions guaranteed. Told you I like you.
I'll take it like a.... nonbinary gender person
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Re: stubble: have her use conditioner every time she showers. Growing it out works, too, and bonus, if she's prone to yeast infections, she won't be anymore. Please, though, if she decides on waxing for your sake, pay for it yourself. She'll be doing something intensely painful, vaguely embarrassing, and slightly dangerous (not all salons are as diligent about sanitation as they ought to be) for your sake. Don't make her shell out money for the privilege.

Re: rape fantasies: I highly recommend the film Little Deaths (or The Little Death? I will lose my comment if I look it up. On Netflix streaming.) on the subject, especially the part where the fantasizer is totally getting off and the guy is insisting that they redo it because she figured out who he is.

I don't post much because I have little that is relevant to say, but the community of commenters on SLLOTD are heart-hurtingly sweet to watch. Fuck the Bachelorette, you guys are interesting.
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Re forced sex fantasy scenarios, or con non-con, this was one of my favorites back when I was sexually active and I've done some version of it many times. My recommendation: talk lots about the fantasy before you do anything. One person's idea of a "rape fantasy" may be very far from another's. For instance that "throw her over your shoulder, down on the bed and have your way with her," or "rape means fighting and physical aggression" both do not work for me! I don't want to fight or be hurt, I don't want to be surprised by a violent attack. Forced sex can be about coercion, threats and intimidation. Especially if there is a size and strength difference between the players, not much violence is required. So, ask what she is thinking about in her fantasy, maybe even write it down. What are the essential elements for her? She needs to be able to "suspend her disbelief" because that's the only way to feel it's real without it being real. Some ideas that have worked for me: a set time (couple hour window) when my door is unlocked and I'm "napping." Intruder with a mask (that he can remove once I am blindfolded.) the switch...he shows me a big knife (on which he has dulled the blade previously) then once I am blindfolded, switches to a butter knife. Very scary, very little chance of injury. Start with something easy, maybe "break in" and tie her up but not do anything to her, just make her do stuff to herself while you watch. Also, discuss limits thoroughly. For me, for example, no firearms, not even toy empty ones. No threats to family (would make it realistic but it would also take me out of the sexual headspace...just not fun to get raped while worrying about others.) no violence beyond the minimum required to establish the scene. Another idea, incorporate the mindfuck, if it's not past her or your limits. It's just you, she is tied up and blindfolded, then you invite someone else in to "rape" her. Could be an actual other person (if that's something you've both negotiated) but it could just be you, with gloves on and a big dildo. So many possibilities. And, as the educated slut recommends, have a clear safe word out so that she can end the scene at any time, have aftercare And post scene debriefing. Whatever you do, do not just assume that what you think is a rape fantasy is her rape fantasy. (My worse time: told him I had rape fantasies, he said, oh? Carried me off and tried to fuck me that instant...ended with us both in tears (him from how he tripped and fell, me from frustration at being so badly misunderstood.) that was me opening a conversation, not asking for it that moment. I've seen many suggestions of the "surprise" variety where the attack could happen anytime within a week or a month. Might work for some people but definitely a no go for me! Extremely stressful to think you could be attacked any minute any where. I would hate it...but maybe she would love it. So, discuss at great length. (My suggestions are oriented to the woman's fantasy because OP indicated he was doing this primarily for her...but if he has similar fantasies, of course discussion could include elements of his fantasies as well, and should certainly include his limits...tops can have limits too! So if you don't want to e.g. strike her, you can figure out other ways to satisfy you both.) One last idea.... Limits, safe words etc may be different from your usual bdsm play. E.g. Only a "red" to end everything, no "yellow" (ease up) safe words. Psychological limits may be different from physical, e.g. you can threaten me with anything but you can't intentionally injure me. Hope some of this helps!
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It's interesting to hear everyone's variation on rape fantasies. A good reminder that when we say a word or phrase which evokes something particular in our mind, it may be evoking something quite different in the mind of our partner. That's why good communication requires fleshing things out.
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Stubble Trouble - try different positions - doggie-style, reverse cowgirl, anal - and you might avoid the cactus.

Raping - i don't recommend 'help! Police!" as the safe word. tried that once, and it went poorly.

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@77 nocutename

Defective? He was an idiot if we are to judge not by intentions, nor by capabilities, but by actions.
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@99: Huh, I aim for clarity, is there anything in particular that I don't communicate as well online? Bone-dry sarcasm doesn't always translate as well with people I don't know personally, but i don't believe that's what you're referring to.
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LavaGirl: Sorry to hear about your eldest son. You're in my thoughts.

We lost our youngest son on October 30th. So the Halloween season is fraught with memories of that tragic day and weirdly overlaid by the usual silly costumes and events of our surviving children. At least there aren't a metric shit load of Halloween songs on the radio in October, but Fall foliage and the particular smell in the air remain powerful triggers.

I've recently been attending some Compassionate Friends meetings for parents who lost children even though its been over a decade for us. It's national with groups all over. There's a whole spectrum of beliefs from nature-loving spiritual types to full-on fundies so I ignore the "he's in a better place with Jesus now" comments. There is the shared wrongness of outliving your child. And it reminds me how far we've come to see the rawness of those who are weeks or months into it. Maybe it gives those parents some hope to see those of us much further along and how we've come to a more peaceful perspective.
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Sean could offer to shave her himself. I had a BF do that for me and it came out excellently, much better than I do myself. Now this was a very competent, steady handed guy who did the shaving. I wouldn't want some squid wielding sharp objects around my lady parts.
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Marilynsue @111 That was awesome!!!! You win the comment stream today.
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@LavaGirl: I am very sorry to hear about the loss of your son. My heartfelt condolences.

@107 CMDwannabe: No worries. I just figured that if the Party Line was latest high tech, I couldn't get in on it anyway. I haven't heard from vennominon in a while.
Venn---are you there?

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Thanks David @117. I send you the same message. My boy died earlier in the yr, in May.. It was the day after Mothers' Day.. Also just over a decade ago. He lived in Sydney, we in Qld, so xmas was always a time of excitement that he'd be coming home.
I found much strength in the Buddhist Teachings, and yes that first year of grief was like a knife stuck in one's heart every minute of ever day.
I'll be heading off to see the new Star Wars movie with a couple of my sons next week. The boy who died was ten yrs older, another father. I remember clearly going to see the first Star Wars with him back in the 70s, when he was a boy.
Xmas joy and peace to you and yours.
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@117 David in Kenai: I'm very sorry to hear also of your youngest son over Halloween (October 30th). You and your family are in my thoughts, too.

@118 & @119 megm1 (re: @111 Marilynsue): My ex spouse insisted on shaving my lady parts completely bald---aiiigghhh! Your description of a squid wielding sharp objects hits too close to home for me (he was also one to try goading me into our having unprotected sex, claiming nothing would happen if he "put it in a little". No genius, my ex). I'm glad I got out when I did.
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I experimented couple of times with shaving my pubes. The area felt very itchy afterwards, not to mention once the hair starts growing.

Wonder how so many women can handle this all the time
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Mr Bloomer - Perhaps during a time when you were not around, Mr Cat was making a heavy internet pass at Ms Cute involving foam rollers. It was partly the fault of my questionable knee. Ms Cute was at #2 in the Couple Power Rankings with either of you, but which? The request was issued for her choice, but I don't recall that a choice was ever submitted. I may have to put Ms Fan and Mx Wanna at #3 now. This will bring us up to six pairs.

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Ms Lava - You'll be so surrounded by people with violent tempers that I might worry about you as a victim. Does this mean that, if I cast the Borgias, you don't want to be Lucrezia? I actually hadn't given that any serious thought, but since my starting this post the perfect choices for Savonarola and Giulia Farnese have come to mind.

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To be moderately serious for a moment, my condolences to all whose gatherings will be too small by one or more this season. I am spending much meditation time hoping for an improvement in the lot of my poor Serial Complimenter; it would feel criminal to forget him.
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Oh Venn, I'm sorry I missread you.
No. The young men who surround me( having my granddaughter here this week, has made the place buzz with little girl energy), seem to have sort of turned a corner. I'm pretty clear that behaviour has to be left behind.
Of course they are young bucks, so yes, they still can be heard mouthing off to each other. Mostly though we all stay in our own space, when we home. I read, they write/ watch movies/ sleep.
No voilence since the calling the police incident. I was pretty clear after that, if it happened again, the police would turn up.
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Lucretia, Venn. Have no idea what she did, but I love the name. I'll take it.
Yes, your serial complimentor. You could always ask him for some xmas moment, so he's not forlorn somewhere.
I will remember to put a place out for Ophian, at our beach xmas.
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@vennominon: Whatever did I do to piss you off, offend, or hurt you?
I never hear from you anymore. I agree with CMDwannabe--I like you, too.
It appears that all is well otherwise with you, but what's up? I feel like you're
hosting the holiday bash of the year, and I'm among the purposefully uninvited.



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Fetish @98. You don't make it sound like much fun, the consensual forced sex scenario. CFSS.
It's not one I ever have.
Being seduced and overpowered or directed by a man, starting in a public situation, is a story I'd rather act out.
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I've acted out rape fantasies over the years. The first one made me a little nervous
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I've acted out rape fantasies over the years. I'll admit... the first one made me a bit nervous...

It made me nervous because my partner at the time was prone to melodrama when she could garner sympathy from me.... so i was nervous at the thought of being "too convincing" in the role. .. and her then saying things like "i just can't get the image out of my head... it was almost like you weren't even there...and you were enjoying yourself....and it scared me"

So... ya know what i did? I said "honey... this makes me nervous... because it seems you will want me to exist between the "horribly unconvincing" and the "terrifyingly convincing" lines without stepping over either one.... and since this is your fantasy... it feels like a lose lose. You sure you can handle this?"

i know... i shared my feelings with her. I felt like a very mature 22 year old at the time....

Of course...we did it... and it was fun... and my preemptive concern definitely undermined what would have been used as ammo against me later.

oops... am i ratting myself out for having dated some unstable women in the past? ha
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hmmmm.... that first post up and disappeared while i was typing it.... no clicks needed.... lo siento
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It's near 2 AM, and Griz is ba-ack, after celebrating Brad's Big 5-2, Thelma & Louise style.
Geen'a right--he does have a cute butt! Oo! I'm going to have some sweet dreams......
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@132, Part II: No, I am not drunk--just comfortably numb.
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Well,
I am drunk, G. And stoned. Had a street party tonite, and for next yrs party, I intend to get a singing group together. Eat your heart out, Bing. If you were alive that is.
I haven't checked, G, but I sure hope Weeked is nominated for record of the Year... Or I'm calling Racism.
I love that boy. Have you listened to his latest music, G?
That young man covers it all. And, he's a gentleman.
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I've been reading a site, that CatB got me onto thru FB, a Black site. I don't buy into the storys you Americans tell yourselves.
There's one guy G, he plays with John Mayall on a Eric Clapton Concert for his centre. When John was at his peak.
There's a Black guy who is a guitarist and back up singer. Wedding Ring, of course. She's not stupid.
God, he's georgeous.
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Stories. I watched Just Alice last night.
I'd have taken the sleeping pills much earlier. Kirsten Stewart, was cool.
Pity about the husband.
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Apologies to a beautiful singer; Weeknd.
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I'm opposed to anyone shaving in the pubic area. It's like having sex with a porcupine. As I'm straight (and pushing middle age with a broom), I never expected to deal with it until I started dating a gym rat who did the whole shaving thing in conjunction with bodybuilding contests.

Horrible. Just horrible.
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Whoops! John Mayer@135. Sorry John, got lost in some double time warp there.
@138. Broom you say? Not sure that's such an attractive label.
I shave none of my body, occassionally I attend to my eyebrows.
Bush, that's the name.
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Ms Grizelda - I think in general it's because our orbits don't tend to align. I have been giving you consideration lately, though. If you don't object, I was thinking that a platonic grrrrrlmance would be a useful addition to the Power Couples list, especially as we don't seem to have any Ms-Ms flirtations going worthy of notice. Any such slot would seem naturally to belong to you, whomever you might choose for your partner in crime.
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Re@135. A hornets nest I assume. It's just on this site I read, a great site btw, I pick up there are issues re Black men getting with White women.
I get the reasoning as presented there, it still confuses me.
Men are Men.
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Not sure what I meant by that last line@141.
Before I dig a deeper hole,
I'll leave it.
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Lava and David: Condolences to you both.

CMD @123: Yes, stubble is itchy when it starts to grow back in. The only solution is to keep shaving it. My top tips for painless shaving are: 1. Never use a fresh razor, it will be too sharp and you'll nick yourself. Do the legs first (or, I suppose, face in your case) to dull it a bit. And 2. Always use a good quality shave gel. As I say, no one has complained about my stubble, but timing is everything... I once had to turn down a booty call because I was just too prickly at the time, it would have been painful for us both!
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Oh, DAVIDinKENAI, my thoughts are with you. Every parent's worst nightmare.

Mr. J's Spectre, thanks.

BiDanFan, I prefer waxing--you're totally smooth for weeks, and then have fine, silky hairs until you need to re-wax, somewhere between 5-8 weeks depending. It is expensive. And it does hurt, initially (after a while, the pain lessens as the hairs grow weaker in their shafts). But you never have to worry about cutting your self or missing a patch, you never have prickly stubble or itchy regrowth, and you never end up with the dreaded shaving rash.
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Nocute @144: I have tried waxing. Too painful for me. Armpits are fine, the pain is over very quickly and they have now become desensitised after a decade of waxing... but I realised that maybe I don't want my genital area to become desensitised! I had one course of laser hair removal, which thinned out the hair on my mons enough that I can home wax it myself now, but either the hairs on my labia are thicker or they just glossed over that area due to the TMI factor, because I still need to shave those. I'll treat myself to some more laser sessions in the new year.
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@130: "and her then saying things like "i just can't get the image out of my head... it was almost like you weren't even there...and you were enjoying yourself....and it scared me""

Ye gods, that sounds utterly horrifying. I'm sure you handled that as best a 22y/o could.
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I have been waxed, and found the returning hair just as sharp as if I'd shaved. It also came back again almost as fast. Certainly not weeks later. Let's not even discuss the grossness of ingrown hairs on people's beautiful perfect bodies. . Bush all the way for me!
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Mistress BDF
Looks like we got the bronze medal. Woud you approve if I wear a bronze satin teddy under my jacket, and slowly unbutton for you to see next time me meet? Of course there will also be stockings and heels to make it look as if I'm fully dressed underneath.
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My laser experience-
Had it done on my face few times and it did help with reducing the volume. But being a serial late bloomer it didnt kill the white hair, which only makes me look older when my beard goes.

You may think I can pass as Mr. Klause, but unfortunately it's more on the oh-so-sexy Yasser Arafat look.
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All of this shaving-vs.-waxing talk is crazy. The superior method of perigenital defoliation — simplest, most cost-effective and most aesthetically pleasing — is just yanking it out.

For broad expanses, wear a latex or nitrile glove on your business hand, and pull the hairs out a few at a time. Tweezing (or, to the vulgar, "plucking") is better suited to detail work.

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Defoliation? I must have been aiming for deforestation and ended up halfway between that and exfoliation. Which, in that region, is something you want to do sparingly.
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Laser your face CMD, yank out your pubes Fred?
Who the hell are you people, what planet is this.
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BARE, must be time to see what his issue is, enough of the grooming. I just get depressed hearing how hair naked everyone wants to be.
So, BARE watches cuckhold porn, gets turned on by it and then feels disgusted with himself for this. Is that his problem? Then he worries it could be an issue when he falls in love, yet wouldn't he want this person to be a fit for this kink.
Is there a site for cuckholds, others who have worked thru their confusion.

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Mistakes, I've made a few.
BARF is the fetish guy's name. Isn't that a slang word for vomiting? He doesn't like to own his kink at all, wants to expell it.

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Venn @124 -- Ah. I see. Venn, I am sorry to say this, but that was a terrible burden to place on nocutename. A woman's delicate constitution is not built for such difficult decisions. The proper thing to have done would have been to send your man around with an invitation to Cat and I to settle this as true gentlemen, ideally at a park by the edge of the woods at dawn. We would have attempted to butcher each other in as civilized a manner as possible, thus sparing nocute the distress of having to make what must surely be a difficult choice. Tip of the hat to Mr. Cat and all that sort of thing, but really it's the only sensible way to go about settling this sort of matter. I am a little disappointed.
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Lava @ 152
Laser as facial hair removal is a fairly common practice. Not only for us wanna bees, but also for female-born with facial hair issues or those who just want to have their eye brows permanently altered.
On top of the reccommended ibuprofen the professional also administers a pain killing gel on the face that needs to stay there for 30 mts prior to zapping.
It only kills black hair though, hence the Arafat look.

I suspect the pubic hair pulling was a joke.
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What's badly needed is someone who has successfully achieved a consensual forced sex scenario, to outline how it's done. And an experienced cuckold practitioner to help BARF achieve some inner peace before xmas.
On a sex advice site, how hard can finding these people be.
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CMD, oh no. I think Fred was serious. Get women pluck, pluck, plucking away at their most sensitive body part. It's expected they do the same on their faces as well.
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@134 LavaGirl: I will indeed have to check out Weeked. He sounds excellent.
Just got back from --surprise (for ME)!--my second neighborhood Christmas party of the month. This time, Griz is a wee bit drunk, but it's the good kind. My beloved and I are safely home and not driving. How he puts up with this nutty woman is truly amazing.
By the way, @139 LavaGirl: Yaaaiiiigghhh! After the disastrous years of 2001-2009, I'd love to see all Bushes and Cheneys burned--after being tried and convicted of heinous war crimes. Trumpzilla the Rughead, too, because he's so insanely toxic.
@140 vennominon: Thank you for the clarification. I'm glad I didn't piss you off, and am wondering if the Party Line might indeed be over my head. But again, thank you for considering me among prospective partners.


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G, Venn is not talking of the Party Line.. That's CMD's baby.
He's got some other caper going. Power Couple, I think he calls it.
Nice you out and about. Must admit there's a neighbourhood young man that something is going on with. I assume his
Response comes from the fact that his Mother is a head case and not in his life. I'd never act on it, it's sorta nice though.

Talking of Venn's Power Couples, I see Late is getting a little hot under the collar, and calling for duels or some such with CatB. Jesus, has everybody gone into a time machine or something.
Can't see why Venn couldn't break a rule here, and have a Power Threesome.
Nocute has some practice, should be able to keep the boys from getting into fisticuffs.
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Re rape fantasy: See if she has some favorite scene from a "bodice-ripper" novel that you can read and re-enact as a starting point.
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Mr. Ven - given the tenor of this board, why couldn't nocute have both? I'm sure she could figure out a schedule, or a scenario ... I wouldn't want to lose either CatB or LateBloomer from our - community?
Nocute:
Shame about the im/explosion/whimper.
As we age, it gets no simpler.
Quality can be hard to find
Wanting it body, heart and mind.

Sorry it doesn't scan - but it's late/early, and I'm worn out.

Condolences to Ms. Lava and Kenai. Coming up on the 5th anniversary of my child's adoption - I can't imagine losing her. The birth family visits continue to be pretty draining, though.

CMD - can I watch?

Shaving/waxing/trimming - oy vey. Forced sex scenarios - hmm. I have to admit I am weary, and not at all drunk or buzzed, and could use a long weekend away from everything and everyone. The holiday season is taxing.
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CMD @156: I can back you up here. An ex of mine, who is not gender variant other than being naturally slim and with very little body hair, also had laser hair removal on his face simply because he hated stubble so much. Like CMD, he sadly had gone quite gray by the time he got round to it, so his dark whiskers are gone, but the white hairs have stubbornly survived.

As for pulling out your pubes... hello, that's what waxing is! But I'm sure there are people meticulous enough to tweeze their nether hairs. Said ex used to tweeze his facial hair, when he had the time, to avoid five o'clock shadow.

Hurrah us for winning the bronze medal, and agree that a poly relationship sounds perfect for Nocute and her two men! A bronze teddy sounds a wonderful way for us to celebrate. The patent high heels must be as shiny as the teddy for the look to work.
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SEAN - But I cannot think of a way in which she can get the experience she desires while still maintaining a safe dynamic.
She should be able to describe what she wants and reassure any fears you have if you talk to her. Hopefully you don't have to press her too much to do her part. If she can't, either realizing the fantasy, or this particular woman, may not be right for you. You can also think about outsourcing this one if it goes against the grain, if you're open.

BARF - Is it possible to have a fetish you hate?
I think everyone has a love/hate relationship with their needs. It's a vulnerability to need, but you can't get around it as a human. If it's not you, stop. If you don't stop, it's you... try to manage your oddities ethically and happily.

SCRAPE - I brought it up once and tried to gently suggest a waxing or letting the hair grow back... how can I suggest that maybe there are other solutions?
Yeah nagging isn't a great look. Suggestions and advice and changing your partner etc. Ick. But she should also care about your feelings. So just tell her your feelings, no suggestions. The two extremes you mention, waxing and doing nothing, are not the only options. Shaving frequency can be changed and trimming is also an option. 1-3 days after shaving is the worst. Would a 2 week schedule work, that way you'd only be missing a couple days out of 14 for sex. Trying to trim at a few different lengths to find one that works seems the easiest. If she doesn't care about the rugburn, and won't compromise at all, she's not worth your time. But it's probably uncomfortable for her too.
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@162: Still Thinking, that was a delightful poem--thank you so much for it!

I confess I'm amazed to be considered for a spot on Mr. Ven's Power Couple list at all, but I'll go anywhere y'all want to put me.
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Normally nocute, I wouldn't buy into Venn's lists, he seems to have so many and prizes, sure does a girl's head in.
Just heck, the boy( Late), seemed to be in some sort of pain.. Couldn't just sit by and watch it no more.
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Thank you, Still Thinking. Sorry to hear you done with the holidays, already. Just a steady sip of a vodka mix all day, or the occasional joint, should help you get by.
I love these words, Philo,
" try to manage your oddities
ethically and happily".
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@167. "Perhaps she knows-- in which case it's time to start to say goodbye"

Loooool.
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Mistress B
Shiny look and silky fabrics are also things I crave, on my self as well as on my partners.
As for shoes- I got that brownish crock pair, but I suspect that won't do. Promise I'll get a proper bronze one soon.

Still @ 162
I have no problem with you watching, but I'm not the one who's calling the shots.
Please contact the seen above authority for approval.
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Mr Bloomer - Are you trying to win Chauvinist of the Year?

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While I agree that a case could be made for allowing Ms Cute two entries on the list, I would not want either to show any individual such favouritism or set a precedent that people could have two or more at once. (I would sooner use a singular "they" than include a Triad on a Couples list.) Imagine the excess of flirtations that would occur; it would give me the migraine.
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@160 LavaGirl: Ahh--thanks for the further clarification. My mistake--so Party Line is CMD's baby; Power Couples is vennominon's baby. Got it. As for a time machine, I'm definitely back into animated Christmas TV specials from 1965 & 1966: A Charlie Brown Christmas and How the Grinch Stole Christmas. Right now I feel like a curious hybrid of Sally Brown and Cindy Lou Who. The kid and adult in me seem to be going back and forth.
Here Griz is all ready to party again, and all out of red, red wine. *sigh* Gotta go to the store again tomorrow. Holiday cheers, everybody!
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CMD @170: These are the sort of shoes one pairs with a bronze teddy, darling:
https://images.konga.com/v2/media/catalo…
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Mistress BDF @ 174
Thanks for showing me the way. I will gladly and obediently follow your guidance.
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This all seems to have got real cosy.
Don't you love Christmas. It does have a purpose, all these families crashing together after a year away from each other.
For some, it can be after many years of absence. And articles appear in papers, spouses saying how wonderful their partner is for going thru the rituals with in laws.
Way too much panic activity round the presents. I've got some for the kids, my granddaughter and her partner's three. And that's it. I did buy for our house a DVD of the first three Star Wars, just so after the new one is viewed tonite, going back will be easy.
The best part of this time, is people do have to stop and be. Maybe be with the weird and wonderful for a few drunken hours, a few fights occur that clear a bit more of the unfinished business from the past, or not.
And just round the corner is a New Year.
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Thanks, Lava.

Venn - Re last week's idea, requiring a country's rulers to have a history of sex work. I remembered why it seemed a familiar idea. I read a few novels by Anne Rice under a pen name with this plot, a series based on Sleeping Beauty. It seemed to work well for the country. Strong themes of BDSM and poly as well.
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Re BARF.

It's possible to have a fetish you hate (ie one that makes you feel icky, disgusted with yourself, ashamed and flooded with self loathing, particularly after you blow your load), *and get off on it precisely because you hate it*. Dan's insight into cuckoldry is, I think, true - it does sexualize fear of cheating - but somewhat incomplete.

Cuckoldry - unlike the "slut wife" thing - is not just about "cheating" but (and I'd say, primarily) about humiliation of being cheated on and associated feelings of sexual inadequacy, sometimes emasculation.

So before you even think of taking it beyond a jerk off fantasy, you need to think if it's the idea of your partner having sex with other guys that you find hot, or specifically the "it makes me feel so horrible about myself" aspect.

It's not an easy one to admit. And it's not an easy one for the "cuckoldress" to be burdened with.
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Another option for the subble: the female condom! It will cover the entrance to the vagina, and act as a barrier to the stubble.
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One compromise on the spiky pubes thing could be to use a body hair trimmer. That would get the hair nice and short without pain for anyone.
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hey people... BARF here after realizing that there was a comment section...nearly a year later. Not my brightest moment...
So I've been thinking/jerking on it and I think I need to d9 more research on things. So far it's been an outside-looking-in thing and I might be able to figure some things out by talking to someone like mentioned a couple of times here. Just ask some much needed questions and maybe...just sort of put together a good conclusion.

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