What do you get when you mix science with art? You get a rambling, brainy, fascinating conversation, that’s what you get.

Resident scientist (and bagel baker) Jonathan Golob gabs with Visual Art editor Jen Graves on “faking it” in their respective fields. They talk about the film My Kid Could Paint That (spoiler alert: all is revealed), embryonic stem-cell research, how to tell if a woman is faking an orgasm, and so much more. Sit back, let your parasympathetic nervous system take over, and have a listen.