Matt already wrote up Susan Sarandon's comments on All In with Chris Hayes on Tuesday night. Sarandon is a celebrity Sanders supporter and she's campaigned for him all across the country. Hayes asked Sarandon the question everyone is asking Sanders supporters these days (the same question, in the interests of fairness and math, that everyone should be putting to Clinton supporters): What are you gonna do if your candidate doesn't get the nomination?

HAYES: Isn't the question always in an election about choices, right? I mean I think a lot of people think to themselves, well, if it's Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, um, and I think Bernie Sanders probably would think this...

SARANDON: I think Bernie would probably encourage people because he doesn't have any ego in this thing. But I think a lot of people are, "Sorry, I just can’t bring myself to [vote for Clinton]."

HAYES: How about you, personally?

SARANDON: I don’t know [what I’ll do]. I’m going to see what happens.

HAYES: Really?


HAYES: I cannot believe that as you're watching the run, Donald Trump...

SARANDON: You know, some people feel that Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately. If he gets in, then things will really explode.

Well, gee.

I was the next guest up on All In that night. So I was sitting in a studio in Seattle, a mic pinned to one of my new-ish TV sweaters (Terry won't let me go on TV in hoodies anymore), listening to Hayes' exchange with Sarandon coming through my ear piece. I knew there were Sanders supporters out there saying they won't vote—or they'll write in Sanders, or vote for the Green Party candidate—if Bernie doesn't get the nomination. And I think that's an idiotic and dangerous position to take. (It's also a song we've heard before.) I tweeted out my initial reaction to Sarandon's remarks during the commercial break before my segment—the moment called for a little Moma Rose—but I felt I had to say something when Chris came to me. I was there to talk about the anti-LGBT bills in North Carolina (signed into law) and Georgia (vetoed), and my segment was only two minutes, and guests, unlike pols, generally answer the questions they were asked, not the questions they wish they were asked. But here's what I said when Chris asked me about North Carolina:

“Can I just say I’m for Bernie, or Hillary, or both. Come November I plan to vote for the Democratic nominee whoever it is, because the lesser of two evils is less evil, and I don’t think Donald will bring the revolution.”

There was more I wanted to say. Lots more. Like this: People were saying the exact same thing—Sarandon said the exact same thing—in run up to the 2000 election. Bill Bradley (Google him) was the real Democrat and there was no difference between Gore and Bush and if Gore got the nomination instead of Bradley then everyone should vote for Ralph Nader or not vote at all because Gore and Bush were equally bad—and some were saying that George W. Bush was so awful—so obviously terrible—that Bush's election would surely bring the revolution. (Strangely... they didn't say the same thing about Gore, who was supposedly no different than Bush. They were exactly the same, no difference, but Gore's election would not bring the revolution.)

And like this: It's easy for white people with a lot of money to fantasize about what might happen if Donald Trump gets elected... because if Trump's election doesn't bring the revolution, if his election only visits misery on Mexicans, Muslims, African Americans, LGBT Americans, women who get abortions, etc., the wealthy and white can jet off to their homes in France and wait it out.


And, as always, my apologies to all the innocent Dan Savages out there...