Ouch, I bet the author's going to really regret this article. That was painful to read (and I only got through half) and he should've just sent this letter to his ex.
Other people's relationship problems aren't that interesting unless a) you know them, or b) they are part of a well-written novel.
I wish the stranger would give me a platform to publicly vindicate myself to the people I feel wronged boy (hear that shitty ex-boyfriend?!?).
Seriously, how is this newsworthy, interesting, or of any merit whatsoever. If you're going to do a human-interest piece, pick something less lame and less shallow. And make the writing less hackneyed.
@3 - It's not news. It's an editorial.
And it just so happens that sometimes shit like this is worth reading; particularly when the reader has gone through something remarkably similar.
so. "feature" this week actually means "petulant, self-aggrandizing diatribe that would have been better for all involved had it been kept to the confines of the writer's own personal diary." good to know.
You haters are gonna acuse Trent of whining, but the truth is, most guys have been in that kind of situation, and like the author, we learned from it.
The difference is that most of us just cringe when it comes up and try not to think of it, while Trent had the fortitude to write about it in excruciating detail. Props.
weather we want to admit it or not alot of us(not everyone) are in the same boat. we don't realize how stupid and petty our relationships are because we are in them but we all fight about these things ie: trust,money,ex's... we just don't realize how pathetic we look to other people because we are in love. good story.
My favorite part of this is the letter from her new model boyfriend where he tells Trent he can't send her messanger birds. Nice touch. He'll probably be beating her within 2 years. Then she'll drive her next man batty till he's crazy and tying cinderblocks to his leg.
My band toured 3 times last year and I came home with NO money every time. I would have been overjoyed to come back with $40. Good thing I wasn't dating her. Newer bands NEVER make money from touring. Such a sad trend to see happening these days.
This was a poignant piece on many differing levels. Really brings up an interesting subject matter. I'm really glad Trent had the balls to write it and I'm really glad I read it.
I don't think that sort of thing happens to everybody, but it can happen to anybody. The touring aspect of the story just gave the ex-gf a very specific kind of target, she would have been equally controlling and abusive no matter what the author's occupation was. I wish him luck in continuing to understand himself. I know I still look on my relationship which devolved into this and worse, and have to struggle to give myself fair shrift, I can't disentangle everything that was happening at the time. Plus, in my case, i did do the irrevocable, not suicide, but I broke the law because I felt so dead-ended, lost, and alone that I started to lose my sense of right, and of self-preservation. Eventually, this led to me getting the help I needed, but its been a long road to stability and letting go of shame. (Thanks to the folks at Anger Control Treatment and Therapy. Anyone who finds themselves in these types of relationships should check out the classes offered.) This article did a great job talking about a topic which is too often glossed over and avoided. Thanks.
this is the epitome of what is wrong with men in the pacific northwest....pathetic, whiny, weak-willed, mama's boys. Get your shit together fellas. The women up here want MEN, not dribbling little girls.
I thought it took courage to get all that stuff onto 'paper'. I enjoyed the read and I think most people can identify at some point in their lives with some of your situation. Thanks for putting it into perspective, Trent. The beat always goes on...
This article was a total waste of time. Who fucking cares about your bed wetting whinny pig crap. LOSER! Your current girlfriend will probably leave you when she finds out that you are still bitter over your ex. I feel sorry for her. You need to grow a pair of balls. Now make a song about that.
Thanks for all the comments everyone. It's been incredibly difficult to get along without the use of my messenger birds.
23 - "this is the epitome of what is wrong with men in the pacific northwest....pathetic, whiny, weak-willed, mama's boys. Get your shit together fellas. The women up here want MEN, not dribbling little girls."
You are exactly right.
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26 - "This article was a total waste of time. Who fucking cares about your bed wetting whinny pig crap. LOSER! Your current girlfriend will probably leave you when she finds out that you are still bitter over your ex. I feel sorry for her. You need to grow a pair of balls. Now make a song about that."
Sorry it was such a waste of time for you. And thanks for thinking about my balls. AC/DC already wrote a balls song.
@ 23 & 26: Your attitude might occasionally get you laid, but it will never get you loved.
Best of luck with that jealous anger. Real men are capable of emotions beyond blind tantrums.
Tonight, one of the most legendary bands that Seattle can (kind of) claim will make a room full of people lose their shit. The Spits will murder 40 minutes of punk rock and give the kids and the old people at chop suey rock and roll boners for days. They are supported by the cute lepers, who despite having lost a member in the last year, have become a tight, interesting band to watch. I hear that the Oh No Nos are really fun and weird and really cool too.
My question, is why the fuck is the plug for this show taking a backseat to a masturbatorily self-absorbed diatribe that some dude wrote about his fucked up relationship? why would the stranger give this childish rant a venue? is this rag here to plug rock and roll shows or to stroke the egos of manbabies who play drums in rock and roll shows? reading it made me embarrassed, like i was watching Mark Mcgrath whine about getting molested on reality TV. didn't anyone think it was weird to publish those emails?
That dude is not the scene. the rock and roll show tonight is the motherfucking scene! see you there, bitches.
I can't believe that he is childish enough to write about a something like this where the dialogue is certainly one-sided. The readers will never hear the ex's side of the story. This is pathetic unbalanced writing used to get sympathy and to cause embarrassment. This guy is a loser. He's jealous and bitter. Message to the wise, don't believe everything you read. Why publish private e-mails you weirdo?
Your current woman might be understanding about the fact that you are faithful on the road but if my man ever publicly berated, whined and told the world in an online newspaper article he was thinking about suicide over an ex--I'd be dumping his ass pronto!! Have some respect Blondie.
This is a childish and pathetic article used to gain sympathy and to cause embarrassment. Word to the wise, don't believe everthing you read. The readers will never get a chance to hear the ex's side. This is unbalanced writing. Why would you publish private e-mails, you weirdo? Enjoy more public outcries from a bitter and deranged man.
Although the tour descriptions were colorful,
this story was less about the road, and more about his shitty girlfriend.
haha, take that shitty girlfriend!
I completely agree with #34. What this guy is missing isn't balls or manliness (or whatever sexist inference posters above have made), but class. Yes, most of us have been in bad relationships with bad people, but most of us deal with it privately or among close friends, not in an overly long, self-indulgent rant in a city newspaper.
Since the author is in a popular band, I'm sure there are plenty of people reading this who know the ex personally, and this absolutely comes off as little more than an attempt to embarrass and get revenge while gaining sympathy. Gross.
I know both people involved so this was fascinating to read. I had no idea she treated you like that. I'm happy for you that that is now in your past. Thanks for writing such a hilarious and well written piece about this relationship.
Too bad I know both you and this "ex". What you wrote is a bunch of one-sided lies, and selectively biased events, which serves of course to embarrass this girl and seek undeserved sympathy from those who don't know you.
I hope people are not that dumb.
Grow up. You are lucky that she didn't get a restraining order on you. And just by writing this out in public, it just shows, once again, that you are a controlling, vindictive psycho.
This is one heck of a way to ruin your band's reputation.
I feel sorry for his current girlfriend. He said he's been with her 8 months and still thinking about this dumb crap. That means that this had to be very old news. He must not be happy with her either. Why is he trying to embarrass this girl on a public platform. I agree with the people that say he is just telling his version of the story. Its also sad that Trent has to create accounts so that he can comment positively on his own story. You can tell he's doing it. Tasteless. Unpleasant. This is a scumbag move.
I know, or knew, both people in this relationship. I had no idea she treated you like that. I'm happy for you that it's now in your past. Thanks for writing such a hilarious and well written piece about this relationship.
Trent, seriously, contact Ira Glass with This American Life. This is exactly the kind of real life material that keeps that show interesting. I think TAL would be interested in you reading this for an episode. The article was part commentary, part self-help book, part train-wreck and held my interest through the whole thing. Too bad the Twit heads on here, can't read or comprehend more than 3 lines of characters strung together without their heads exploding.
How did this take courage to put on paper? It takes courage to deal with being gone from your girlfriend. It takes courage realizing if your girlfriend wants to cheat on you she can find someone to fuck while you are in your back yard having a cigarette. Jesus christ I feel for Trent, he is insecure and so is she and the two combined ended up in a trainwreck.
Guys need to realize that a girl can get another man whenever she wants. If she is not already cheating it is because SHE LIKES YOU not because she is being watched by you.
As for the cologne wearing douchebags that may be true but his feelings about them is really a reflection of his own insecurity. Being able to dress like a douchebag without feeling like an idiot is a sign of confidence and women love confidence. This is why the average douchebag walking around in belltown on a Friday night can get chicks. They may dress like idiots but in a weird backwards way it makes them attractive to women.
Again I feel for this guy as he is not sure of himself when he is the envy of so many people in Seattle. So many people would LOVE to go on tour and come back broke or even in the hole. They would pay just to do it and run themselves into debt. His just needs to accept his own life before any women will. Women are not what complete you, they are attracted to a person who is complete.
I feel sorry for this new girlfriend, (if she exists) knowing full well that you have even been trying to contact this ex- in the past year, probably behind her back. A guy in his late 30s, who doesn't even have his own place, someone who can't hold down a simple job to make rent, irresponsible, controlling, and a stalker?
How does TheStranger get this guy to write? I hope you guys are not paying him much for this diatribe.
Good mindfuck Stranger-boy Trent; real good yum like these kinds of stories make my day see how the other half lives good human interest wow so keep it up no pun intended gopher it Moorman Stranger traveller pilgrim
I saw the situation between Trent and this girl carry on from the beginning to its end.
This girl lied her way through the entire relationship. She lied and had no conscience. She lied without regret. She worked him and played with his heart and his mind from day one.
I for one am glad to see her called out. I was friends with one of her previous exes and she cheated on him. And did the same thing to the guy before that.
Man Eater is right.
Whoever 'deslisla' is, you are full of shit. Who's the stalker? From your comments, you might want to look in the mirror. If there's a restraining order that needs to be filed, it doesn't need to be against him.
It is interesting that the comments here have much in common with the relationship Trent writes about. A side taken, a preconceived notion whose bias is mostly a reflection on the commentor, not the article. No thought that things are usually some shade of grey, not black and white. No desire to learn anything or think openly but rather just verbiage to convince who (yourself) that yes, you are solid in your views, justified and obvious. But what the fuck does anyone know of Trent, the gf, or the relationship? Even the comments on the motive to write/publish the article are not so simple- a public literary bitchslap? A piece to help other folks floundering in their relationships? Catharsis? Publicity for the band? To have the final word, or to keep the dialogue with her going? Or what mixture of these things and others? The comments are so strong yet uninformed and perception is reality- the dangers of this being one of the points of the article, I think.
#53 - another example of Trent making up stories/comments. That new chick better run! ha! and Dave Einmo should be embarrassed to have him in his band.
Everyone has gone through this or will go through it at some point, which is why it was decidedly uninteresting. The biggest problem with the piece is that while he admits the petty jealousy of their arguments he still has a painful desire to be on the winning side, on the record, for everyone to see.
What with all the whining about whether this is worthy of being printed in The Stranger? I can't tell you how many Stranger articles I've began to read but simply lost interest; this one I actually bothered to finish! And no I don't really care if every word of it is "true" or "biased", it's written from one side's perspective (duh!). If the ex-girlfriend cares enough to write about her side of it, we'd be happy to read that too.
One of the worst long-form "features" the stranger has ever run. So totally lacking in wit, style or self-awareness.
Would you like to read an endless, pointless, entirely self-justifying diatribe about why I REALLY REALLY HATE my ex-girlfriend? And how I never did anything wrong EVER but she was a total lying bitch about it anyway? And, god, I bet she's really (finally!) gonna feel bad when she reads it.
One of the best long-form "features" The Stranger has ever run. This really hit home for me in many ways. Tough times right now for the music industry and the country at large. I applaud the musicians and the writers and the artist who keep doing what they are doing.
@ 50, Desisla: I'm late 30's and don't have my own place. Lost my job, and struggle for work to pay all my bills. I have a masters degree to pay for as well. Have you looked around? This author isn't not the only one in that boat. (No pun intended, too soon?) Or are you too busy being a bitch and playing your victim card to realize how off you are?
And to that: I've been regularly reading Trent's work in The Stranger for 2 years now and from what I can see online, he writes for multiple publications. I've seen and heard him play music in 4 or 5 separate projects and he's got mad skills on the kit. Regular work? Damn, I wish I was this busy.
He's a musician and a writer, doing it regularly and working hard. Fault him all you want, but you’re the one who ends up looking bad.
You stalk the comments then accuse someone of stalking. Your game is played and old. People like you need to realize other people aren't there for you to just walk over.
I had a very similar GF to this one. So this is personal.
I can see the point of everyone claiming that this is a bit too whiny and personal and doesn't deliver on the promise of measuring touring's true impact on a relationship. All are valid criticisms.
But, taking it as read, it seems pretty obvious that Desisla is probably Trent's ex's current boyfriend, or a man in her life that she has worked up.
With a different title, or goal, the article could well have been about how certain women use guilt and paranoia to control the men in their lives. It is only a man in that state, whose emotions have been properly stoked, who can do pathetic things like write threatening emails or trash someone on a comment board with personal information, with that kind of abandon.
Anyone who can hop from one relationship to another without a re-group and recoup period alone is a red, red flag. Doesn't matter what one is running from or running to. If someone can do that, it demonstrates a real lack of the kind of depth a healthy relationship must have.
There sure are a lot of people commenting on how pointless and stupid this piece was.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that they're probably the ones who've never had an experience like this and think they're too good to ever get involved in one. Ugh. Grow up.
Yeah, it's kind of a trite story... but, you know, if it's so trite, why does it keep happening, all the time, everywhere? There's something valuable here, even if there is pettiness and self-pity.
Anyone that plays music and has toured can identify with this story. Great story btw.
Anyone who has been in a relationship with a liar can identify with this story.
Anyone who travels a lot for work and is away from their partner a lot can identify with this story.
The comments this girl is sending in and getting her friends to send in show her true colors. She sounds like she's continuing to accuse and she sounds like she needs to get back into therapy. I have a couple guy friends who are with women like this - that punish them by having other guys. The answer is simple, they need to break up with the women. But they don't! What's wrong with you men?
The author was stupid and lame for staying in it, yes. However, he would have been an 'abandoner' if he had cut out.
Trent left one of his previous bands because the singer was a wastoid pot head. They never toured and weren't going anywhere. Where are they now? Nowhere.
Interesting circumstances because of his behavior? What like not wanting to be stuck in a basement doing bong hits for the rest of his life?
Someone mentioned This American Life. They did a great show on breakups, including a piece by a girl who was blindsided by the end of her relationship and decided she was going to learn to write the perfect break up song. THAT was a story. It took an experience that we could all relate to and elevated it to story level by putting an unusual twist on it.
What was the content of Trent's piece? He meets a girl, she treats him badly, she leaves him, he contemplates suicide, gets angry letters from the new bf (who is the most interesting character in this article with the funny messenger birds line), and meets a new girlfriend. Excuse me, but big fucking deal. Where was the actual story here?
Trent certainly wasn't a compelling character. His only flaws were being too naive, according to him. He described his ex in such stereotypical terms as "Sex in the City-fed" and the new boyfriend as "LA Model." There was no depth or unique quality to any of these characters, or interesting outcome/ realization of any kind on the part of the author.
Nothing interesting or out of the ordinary happened here. So what was the point? This felt like something I'd read on Live Journal, not in a newspaper.
I've been the ex-girlfriend. Guess what, I had low self esteem and did not appreciate my boyfriend's enabling. Subsequently, I lost someone I actually cared about, because I acted like such a fool, and he wouldn't take it. I still respect him for that. Though we've since parted ways, he had the greatness of character to never make me feel like crap about it either. Sometimes there's only one way to learn a hard lesson. The only thing that got me to change was wanting the good person I felt like inside to be the same as the person who interacted with everyone else. This came in handy when I met my love of now 8 years. I should feel lucky only the first boyfriend has tried to vilify me in my family's eyes as opposed to the entirety of The Stranger's readership. (This move resulted in me refusing to speak to my family for two years, after all where do you think I inherited my low self esteem?) I have no sympathy for that tool (BF#1), he was after all getting sex I didn't have the self respect not to have. This guy was doing the same thing, thinking with his little head and whether he cares to admit it or not, reaping the sex. I was 18, no one felt sorry for me, nor does anyone feel sorry for the multitude of women who play the girl-version of Trent's role. Therefore, it would be sexist to feel e/sympathy for Trent. Since he's a musician, I think a song might have been more artistic than this particular read.
I saw Trent's current girlfriend with some dude the other day. Oh shit hope that doesn't make him write another Gone With the Wind and cry in the shower. Loser
I saw Trent's current girlfriend with some dude the other day. Oh shit hope that doesn't make him write another Gone With the Wind and cry in the shower. Loser
Anyone ever think that Trent doesn't have it all? Was it really all her fault? I know this situation well. Guess how long it been over and done?...Over two years. Get over it. What the hell is he still crying for? He's 38 and still a boy. Concentrate on getting your sorry life together.
Good news, she sounds like a controlling psycho bitch who plays the victim to make you feel like shit so she seems like a goddess in comparison. If I were her doctor I'd prescribe a daily dose of shut the fuck up and tell her to call me in a year.
Uh... Seriously???? and as the FRONT PAGE STORY?!?!..... boooooo f**king HOOOO... buck it up dude... shit happens, thats life.. ya can whine and whine or learn from the mistakes... but for CHRISSAKES on the front page of the stranger?!?!... dude thats what your freinds are for.. not a public smear like this.
Also this sounds AWEFULLY one sided... so you were a complete angel, never did anything wrong, it was ALLL her she was pure evil... wonder what her side is... like a VERYwise freind told me once.. there are THREE sides to evry story... his, hersa, and what actually happened.
And you seriously gave the letters to a lawyer?!?!...c'MON man up here. Tell him yer gonna do what ever the f**K ya want and he's gonna like it or lump it.
I guess the REAL patheticness is that I am responding to this.... man am I bored... but dude... stop the whining, grow some and write a good country song about it!!
Don't know how do this non anonimously so I'll sign right here... William Blaak
What a poignant story. I'm sure there are so many men whose jobs require them to travel alot can relate to this dilemma; fisherman, truck drivers, band members, salesmen and the like. In the end it sounds like it was a win-win situation for both of you and it sucks that you had to go through all that drama. Thanks for sharing Trent.
All stories are one sided. Even "news" stories. You don't have to like it. You don't have to agree with it. You don't have to give two shits about it, but guess what? Way more mother fucking people are gonna read his story than your whiny little comment about how you felt forced to read some story that you didn't like JUST BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE STRANGER ...
@65 - Sorry for your losing the job; but that's not incompetence, you have proven yourself with the Master degree. Trent, however, was an irresponsible guy who couldn't hold down a single job. Good entrepreneurs can start a business/band/whatever while keeping themselves afloat.
Regarding comment stalking, he laid it all out for himself. Moorman started this article himself, with TheStranger's blessing for publication. If he is allowed to throw his diatribe out here, her friends (like me, and no, I am not the current bf, not even a boy) who know her are certainly going to call him out for what he is.
He started this. 2 years after the breakup. Doesn't the existence of this article show his character by itself? If I were the head person/manager at Head like a kite (and I believe Dave had more than enough managerial experience at MS) to fire this person. This is bad for branding and their reputation. Trent's skill is easily replaceable. It's not like he is the 1st violin at Seattle Symphony.
Real men move on. But some boys never grow up. Good luck to his current girlfriend.
This guy should chuck his kit and replace it w/ a DEAD HORSE!
Irony: that the greatest and final testament to how pathologically and embarrassingly fucked-up was this situation/relationship and ALL those involved was the publication of the "article" itself. One could only redeem himself by disavowing any involvement and moving on, but no, we get a feature-length article dripping with tales and signs of rampant personality disorder.
It's hard to wonder if Trent has a secret enemy at The Stranger who gave him the venue as "enough rope."
@29 LOL! the cute lepers... lost a member in the last year..." tee-hee! Get it? How often?
And, YES, I'm busted: I admit I'm pathetic enough to have read the whole article AND all the comments ranging from 1 to 13 on the Lame Scale. You know who you are.
Anyone who has been in a band or a crew know's the truth of all of this. If you can't relate then you should consider yourself lucky.
That or you're not in the industry and don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
I guess no news is bad news for the stranger. Why else would they put this vomit on the site? This guy is pathetic for writing this...I guess all touring musicians go through this situation. I guess none of them can sustain relationships and all have jealous girlfriends. Then I guess all musicians should date each other on the road.
I don't really believe my last statement just like I don't believe this sorry excuse for a human being Trent. What a SOB. I hope the people you're writing about (including your current girlfriend") have more class than you. I guess you should watch behind your back when you're performing when you pull these kind of putrid stunts. I know he better never have a show in my town.
And that psycho bitch is still stalking him in the comments. Probably has a substance abuse problem.
By the way, Sweetie, if you are reading these comments, no one believes you because you can't fake what Trent wrote. Every word rings true to anyone who has dated someone like you.
I don't think it matters what the feature piece is like in The Stranger. People are always going to have good & bad comments.
Personally, I have been on both sides of this situation & really, it sucks. I took it as lessons learned rather than a waste of time.
People like her obviously have issues that need to be talked about in counseling. Something that she needs to take care of before getting into one relationship after another.
As far as Trent goes. Good for you realizing that you deserve different. And good for you for not being the stereotypical touring boyfriend who will cheat on his girlfriend. Better yet, congratulations on what seems like a more healthier relationship.
Hahaha. What a fuckin loser this guys is man. For every negative comment about his story he writes a comment under another name. Guess what dumb ass...some people know everyone you wrote about and they have lots of wonderful friends that care deeply about them. They are good and loving people. We know the situation. We know that you're a liar, manipulative, pathetic, and a 38 year old no home having, jerking off under your panda suit, compulsive stalker and a waste of the little talent you have. So for you to write this means that you want to cause trouble in a small town. Those two are happy and forgot about you. I told them about this story and they laughed it off. Everyone else has a peaceful life and has forgotten about you. You put yourself out there as a target Trent. Good luck sleeping a night you idiot.
It never fails that a bunch of people will line up to crap on the person who shows some vulnerability. Really, the nasty comments are just boring.
Reading this, I felt old.
I think people get into these drama laden relationships because it feels exciting. A lot of people are sleepwalking and the emotional intensity of chaotic, unhealthy relationships wakes them up. They feel alive, at least at first. I don't know if you can say that relationships can be addictive the way substances are (although a lot of people do say this), but there are similarities. The addrenaline rushes that come with intense fights or being furious with someone and about to leave, can be drug-like, particularly when they're followed up by the redemption of making up which in turn is also drug-like.
The problem is that this stuff not only becomes a lot less exciting with repetition, but also aggravating and tedious. Still, one or both partners in the relationship might hang in there hoping to recover that original sense of excitement--just like that first high that addicts are always trying to recapture--or that eventual sense of relief when the drama stops. (Think meth or crack versus heroin or benzodiazepines.)
In reality, relationship are not all about excitement and peak experiences. People in long term relationships who say that they still feel that tingly, infatuation adrenaline high, every day when they think about their partners are full of shit. It doesn't work that way. If it did, none of us would accomplish anything else. We'd all be self-obsessed and kind of dumb. Body chemistry even changes at relationships progress. People produce hormones that cause a sense of comfort and well-being instead of excitement.
Add all of the above to a relationship between two people involved in careers that thrive on adulation and breed insecurity--both (careers) depend on other people's praise--and it's just worse (i.e. more intense drama, deeper pain and loss, more risk of rejection: your career could end/never get started if people don't like you).
Seems like a person could lose their sense of direction in life and get caught up in a lot of petty bullshit (e.g. the writer's girlfriend leading a bunch of men around by their dicks just to feel attractive and loved, the writer wasting money on a woman who will never be satisfied with him for reasons that have nothing to do with him).
To the writer: Good luck with all this. I hope you find your balance.
so, when is the stranger going to publish grown-up articles? who cares about this guy's romance problems? there are about a thousand topics that would make for a more interesting and informative read, but i suppose when you are reading a glorified junior college paper, that's too much to ask for.
Holy shit Trent. She dumped you over two years ago and you're still not over this...dude. I thought you were an ok person but now I see you're crazy. And as far as I know, she had to pay the rent for the three months you lived in that apartment together. Get a life fella.
I think I'm going to stop reading the Stranger. Completely irrelevant, self-absorbed, and boring. Someone needs to start a new paper in this town. Maybe I will.
Other people's relationship problems aren't that interesting unless a) you know them, or b) they are part of a well-written novel.
I wish the stranger would give me a platform to publicly vindicate myself to the people I feel wronged boy (hear that shitty ex-boyfriend?!?).
Seriously, how is this newsworthy, interesting, or of any merit whatsoever. If you're going to do a human-interest piece, pick something less lame and less shallow. And make the writing less hackneyed.
And it just so happens that sometimes shit like this is worth reading; particularly when the reader has gone through something remarkably similar.
also, where do i sign up to be his sugar momma?
The difference is that most of us just cringe when it comes up and try not to think of it, while Trent had the fortitude to write about it in excruciating detail. Props.
My band toured 3 times last year and I came home with NO money every time. I would have been overjoyed to come back with $40. Good thing I wasn't dating her. Newer bands NEVER make money from touring. Such a sad trend to see happening these days.
This was a poignant piece on many differing levels. Really brings up an interesting subject matter. I'm really glad Trent had the balls to write it and I'm really glad I read it.
You are my favorite kind of comment leavers. The ones who tell The Stranger what they should and shouldn't be publishing.
Point me to your paper and I'll see what stories you are printing, and I will judge.
No wait, my favorite comments are when anonymous commentors are complaining about other anonymous comments.
So you are my 2nd favorite kind of comment leaver.
That is all.
I don't think your experience proves that touring in a relationship is hard, I think it proves that you were dating a jealous, controlling asshole.
Don''t go anywhere, drummer boy. You are loved.
23 - "this is the epitome of what is wrong with men in the pacific northwest....pathetic, whiny, weak-willed, mama's boys. Get your shit together fellas. The women up here want MEN, not dribbling little girls."
You are exactly right.
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26 - "This article was a total waste of time. Who fucking cares about your bed wetting whinny pig crap. LOSER! Your current girlfriend will probably leave you when she finds out that you are still bitter over your ex. I feel sorry for her. You need to grow a pair of balls. Now make a song about that."
Sorry it was such a waste of time for you. And thanks for thinking about my balls. AC/DC already wrote a balls song.
Best of luck with that jealous anger. Real men are capable of emotions beyond blind tantrums.
My question, is why the fuck is the plug for this show taking a backseat to a masturbatorily self-absorbed diatribe that some dude wrote about his fucked up relationship? why would the stranger give this childish rant a venue? is this rag here to plug rock and roll shows or to stroke the egos of manbabies who play drums in rock and roll shows? reading it made me embarrassed, like i was watching Mark Mcgrath whine about getting molested on reality TV. didn't anyone think it was weird to publish those emails?
That dude is not the scene. the rock and roll show tonight is the motherfucking scene! see you there, bitches.
Well, we don't go out with psycho hose-beasts.
There were so many warning signs going into this that you chose to ignore, I don't know where to begin.
And to those commenters who think this isn't worth reading - welcome to the Bitter Psychotic Bitch Club, psycho.
this story was less about the road, and more about his shitty girlfriend.
haha, take that shitty girlfriend!
23- your a cunt not a woman
& 29- fuck your "scene", now go hang out in it
Since the author is in a popular band, I'm sure there are plenty of people reading this who know the ex personally, and this absolutely comes off as little more than an attempt to embarrass and get revenge while gaining sympathy. Gross.
Uh, Trent does play in a hip hop act. Saturday Knights.
Too bad I know both you and this "ex". What you wrote is a bunch of one-sided lies, and selectively biased events, which serves of course to embarrass this girl and seek undeserved sympathy from those who don't know you.
I hope people are not that dumb.
Grow up. You are lucky that she didn't get a restraining order on you. And just by writing this out in public, it just shows, once again, that you are a controlling, vindictive psycho.
This is one heck of a way to ruin your band's reputation.
Guys need to realize that a girl can get another man whenever she wants. If she is not already cheating it is because SHE LIKES YOU not because she is being watched by you.
As for the cologne wearing douchebags that may be true but his feelings about them is really a reflection of his own insecurity. Being able to dress like a douchebag without feeling like an idiot is a sign of confidence and women love confidence. This is why the average douchebag walking around in belltown on a Friday night can get chicks. They may dress like idiots but in a weird backwards way it makes them attractive to women.
Again I feel for this guy as he is not sure of himself when he is the envy of so many people in Seattle. So many people would LOVE to go on tour and come back broke or even in the hole. They would pay just to do it and run themselves into debt. His just needs to accept his own life before any women will. Women are not what complete you, they are attracted to a person who is complete.
I feel sorry for this new girlfriend, (if she exists) knowing full well that you have even been trying to contact this ex- in the past year, probably behind her back. A guy in his late 30s, who doesn't even have his own place, someone who can't hold down a simple job to make rent, irresponsible, controlling, and a stalker?
How does TheStranger get this guy to write? I hope you guys are not paying him much for this diatribe.
And for what it's worth, almost all of us have some version of this story in our pasts. Glad you lived through it, too.
This girl lied her way through the entire relationship. She lied and had no conscience. She lied without regret. She worked him and played with his heart and his mind from day one.
I for one am glad to see her called out. I was friends with one of her previous exes and she cheated on him. And did the same thing to the guy before that.
Man Eater is right.
Whoever 'deslisla' is, you are full of shit. Who's the stalker? From your comments, you might want to look in the mirror. If there's a restraining order that needs to be filed, it doesn't need to be against him.
I'm glad you're here Trent. Keep it coming.
keep the beats flowing and your head out of your ass drummerboy.
Would you like to read an endless, pointless, entirely self-justifying diatribe about why I REALLY REALLY HATE my ex-girlfriend? And how I never did anything wrong EVER but she was a total lying bitch about it anyway? And, god, I bet she's really (finally!) gonna feel bad when she reads it.
You wouldn't? I can't imagine why not...
@ 50, Desisla: I'm late 30's and don't have my own place. Lost my job, and struggle for work to pay all my bills. I have a masters degree to pay for as well. Have you looked around? This author isn't not the only one in that boat. (No pun intended, too soon?) Or are you too busy being a bitch and playing your victim card to realize how off you are?
And to that: I've been regularly reading Trent's work in The Stranger for 2 years now and from what I can see online, he writes for multiple publications. I've seen and heard him play music in 4 or 5 separate projects and he's got mad skills on the kit. Regular work? Damn, I wish I was this busy.
He's a musician and a writer, doing it regularly and working hard. Fault him all you want, but you’re the one who ends up looking bad.
You stalk the comments then accuse someone of stalking. Your game is played and old. People like you need to realize other people aren't there for you to just walk over.
I had a very similar GF to this one. So this is personal.
But, taking it as read, it seems pretty obvious that Desisla is probably Trent's ex's current boyfriend, or a man in her life that she has worked up.
With a different title, or goal, the article could well have been about how certain women use guilt and paranoia to control the men in their lives. It is only a man in that state, whose emotions have been properly stoked, who can do pathetic things like write threatening emails or trash someone on a comment board with personal information, with that kind of abandon.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that they're probably the ones who've never had an experience like this and think they're too good to ever get involved in one. Ugh. Grow up.
Yeah, it's kind of a trite story... but, you know, if it's so trite, why does it keep happening, all the time, everywhere? There's something valuable here, even if there is pettiness and self-pity.
Anyone who has been in a relationship with a liar can identify with this story.
Anyone who travels a lot for work and is away from their partner a lot can identify with this story.
The comments this girl is sending in and getting her friends to send in show her true colors. She sounds like she's continuing to accuse and she sounds like she needs to get back into therapy. I have a couple guy friends who are with women like this - that punish them by having other guys. The answer is simple, they need to break up with the women. But they don't! What's wrong with you men?
The author was stupid and lame for staying in it, yes. However, he would have been an 'abandoner' if he had cut out.
Mindfuck is a great word for this!
Interesting circumstances because of his behavior? What like not wanting to be stuck in a basement doing bong hits for the rest of his life?
I wish he were my drummer!
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What was the content of Trent's piece? He meets a girl, she treats him badly, she leaves him, he contemplates suicide, gets angry letters from the new bf (who is the most interesting character in this article with the funny messenger birds line), and meets a new girlfriend. Excuse me, but big fucking deal. Where was the actual story here?
Trent certainly wasn't a compelling character. His only flaws were being too naive, according to him. He described his ex in such stereotypical terms as "Sex in the City-fed" and the new boyfriend as "LA Model." There was no depth or unique quality to any of these characters, or interesting outcome/ realization of any kind on the part of the author.
Nothing interesting or out of the ordinary happened here. So what was the point? This felt like something I'd read on Live Journal, not in a newspaper.
Also this sounds AWEFULLY one sided... so you were a complete angel, never did anything wrong, it was ALLL her she was pure evil... wonder what her side is... like a VERYwise freind told me once.. there are THREE sides to evry story... his, hersa, and what actually happened.
And you seriously gave the letters to a lawyer?!?!...c'MON man up here. Tell him yer gonna do what ever the f**K ya want and he's gonna like it or lump it.
I guess the REAL patheticness is that I am responding to this.... man am I bored... but dude... stop the whining, grow some and write a good country song about it!!
Don't know how do this non anonimously so I'll sign right here... William Blaak
Tell us your life stories. Or do you have that courage?
I dunno as far as pathetic goes ...
Regarding comment stalking, he laid it all out for himself. Moorman started this article himself, with TheStranger's blessing for publication. If he is allowed to throw his diatribe out here, her friends (like me, and no, I am not the current bf, not even a boy) who know her are certainly going to call him out for what he is.
He started this. 2 years after the breakup. Doesn't the existence of this article show his character by itself? If I were the head person/manager at Head like a kite (and I believe Dave had more than enough managerial experience at MS) to fire this person. This is bad for branding and their reputation. Trent's skill is easily replaceable. It's not like he is the 1st violin at Seattle Symphony.
Real men move on. But some boys never grow up. Good luck to his current girlfriend.
Irony: that the greatest and final testament to how pathologically and embarrassingly fucked-up was this situation/relationship and ALL those involved was the publication of the "article" itself. One could only redeem himself by disavowing any involvement and moving on, but no, we get a feature-length article dripping with tales and signs of rampant personality disorder.
It's hard to wonder if Trent has a secret enemy at The Stranger who gave him the venue as "enough rope."
@29 LOL! the cute lepers... lost a member in the last year..." tee-hee! Get it? How often?
And, YES, I'm busted: I admit I'm pathetic enough to have read the whole article AND all the comments ranging from 1 to 13 on the Lame Scale. You know who you are.
That or you're not in the industry and don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
I don't really believe my last statement just like I don't believe this sorry excuse for a human being Trent. What a SOB. I hope the people you're writing about (including your current girlfriend") have more class than you. I guess you should watch behind your back when you're performing when you pull these kind of putrid stunts. I know he better never have a show in my town.
And that psycho bitch is still stalking him in the comments. Probably has a substance abuse problem.
By the way, Sweetie, if you are reading these comments, no one believes you because you can't fake what Trent wrote. Every word rings true to anyone who has dated someone like you.
This comment thread is a fucking work of art.
Personally, I have been on both sides of this situation & really, it sucks. I took it as lessons learned rather than a waste of time.
People like her obviously have issues that need to be talked about in counseling. Something that she needs to take care of before getting into one relationship after another.
As far as Trent goes. Good for you realizing that you deserve different. And good for you for not being the stereotypical touring boyfriend who will cheat on his girlfriend. Better yet, congratulations on what seems like a more healthier relationship.
Reading this, I felt old.
I think people get into these drama laden relationships because it feels exciting. A lot of people are sleepwalking and the emotional intensity of chaotic, unhealthy relationships wakes them up. They feel alive, at least at first. I don't know if you can say that relationships can be addictive the way substances are (although a lot of people do say this), but there are similarities. The addrenaline rushes that come with intense fights or being furious with someone and about to leave, can be drug-like, particularly when they're followed up by the redemption of making up which in turn is also drug-like.
The problem is that this stuff not only becomes a lot less exciting with repetition, but also aggravating and tedious. Still, one or both partners in the relationship might hang in there hoping to recover that original sense of excitement--just like that first high that addicts are always trying to recapture--or that eventual sense of relief when the drama stops. (Think meth or crack versus heroin or benzodiazepines.)
In reality, relationship are not all about excitement and peak experiences. People in long term relationships who say that they still feel that tingly, infatuation adrenaline high, every day when they think about their partners are full of shit. It doesn't work that way. If it did, none of us would accomplish anything else. We'd all be self-obsessed and kind of dumb. Body chemistry even changes at relationships progress. People produce hormones that cause a sense of comfort and well-being instead of excitement.
Add all of the above to a relationship between two people involved in careers that thrive on adulation and breed insecurity--both (careers) depend on other people's praise--and it's just worse (i.e. more intense drama, deeper pain and loss, more risk of rejection: your career could end/never get started if people don't like you).
Seems like a person could lose their sense of direction in life and get caught up in a lot of petty bullshit (e.g. the writer's girlfriend leading a bunch of men around by their dicks just to feel attractive and loved, the writer wasting money on a woman who will never be satisfied with him for reasons that have nothing to do with him).
To the writer: Good luck with all this. I hope you find your balance.
And I'd just love to see the response if a woman had written it about an ex-boyfriend.