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@2 Hmmm... How about this. Vaccinate because Health and Science triumph fear, ignorance, death and disease.
Although there is no law (and probably couldn't be), it does make good public health sense to forbid unvaccinated children from entering public school.
Most parents would prefer it if unvaccinated children stayed well away from Disneyland, malls, and public places, but that's unlikely to occur.
If you want to go live off the grid, homeschool, and rarely interact with the outside world, then I have no objection to you not vaccinating. But if you want to pass me on the street ofa major city, or send your children to a public school where my immune-compromised child goes, then I will loudly object.
I laugh at your ironic comment about our "group think". The vast majority of anti-vaxers are clustered in groups who communally decide to embrace bad science. The people you are accusing of engaging in "group think" are the scientific community, and those that believe science is a real thing.
I support vaccination. I do not believe vaccines cause autism (although I have seen a reputable, compelling study that suggests thimerosal can cause demyelination of nerve fibers in young children). Immunity, herd or otherwise, is important. At the same time, we need to not get as hide bound and tunnel visioned as anti-vaxxers. Sometimes, there are laws that get in the way of what we want, and all the complaining in the world will do no good until those laws are changed first.
Airport security peeps in Colorado Springs confiscated my pink baby nail clippers. Yep, they might not have been capable of cutting strings but clearly were lethal terrorists' weapons.
Edit this, get to the ponts you want to make in your paragraphs shorter,a nd stop rambling..
Sylvia Plath's suicide note was better.
At least that had a point.
And I really, really, really wish that the at-risk tech youth at The Stranger would force the date of registration onto commenters profiles. We always seem to get so many new people whenever anything "controversial" is posted, and I would dearly love to give them the welcome to Slog that they so very much deserve. It's the welcome wagon hostess in me.
Really? Is that supposed to be scary? In case you it did't occur to you, The face of the antivax movement is a grieving parent who already lost her baby. So, you see, that statistic isn't scary at all. Besides, nobody has died from the measles in ages. It's all hypothetical. But what is not hypothetical is the fact that many, many babies are dying from vaccines.
In fact, so many babies are dying that the USA is now 56th in the world in infant mortality. Here and now in the USA one out of every 128 babies dies before turning five! Did you know that? And, did you know the National Institutes of Health published a study in 2009, back when the USA was 34th in IMR, entitled "Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity?" This study proves our babies are dying from too many toxic vaccines. So, what did the CDC do in response? Why, the CDC just kept adding more.
As for your obsolete suggestion that Dr. Wakefield was discredited, I'm sorry you didn't hear Dr. Wakefield was recently vindicated and cleared by a court of law. His research is true. Parents already knew. I'm sorry if you didn't hear about Dr. William Thompson, former researcher for the CDC who came out with evidence proving that the autism MMR link was revealed in research he worked on for the CDC in 2004. Thompson released the information on his attorney's website in August, 2014. You can look it up if you want. Or, you can go ahead and laugh it up and join Jimmy Kimmel in making fun of all the traumatized parents while they do their best to recover while trying to warn the rest of us.
As for your weapon-claw earrings? They are horrendously ugly. They are almost a
s gruesome as the CDC and Pharma combined as they contrive to make billions while pumping us full of toxins no matter how many babies die.
It's time to wake up. It's time to do something. It's tiem to remember the the face of the antivax movement is a grieving parent who already lost her baby.
Second - Dr. Wakefield was not vindicated in any way, shape, or form. His research was still fraudulent, which was determined outside of the courts - the courts were looking into another set of issues entirely (the ethics of using children in the research and hiding some conflicts of interest) which Wakefield was found guilty of, ASIDE from his scientific dishonesty. The trial you mention was of an associate of his, and was likewise investigating not his results, but the same ethical issues that were investigated in Wakefield. His associate was not found guilty, but Wakefield still was - because he was much more involved in ethically suspect aspects of the research.
Well, I have news for you: You're going to die. So will your children. That's what we do. So just enjoy life while you can - and that includes not hiding under the bed and listening to every quack who wants to sell you something.
- A single year was used (2009) to "prove" the assertion. If the assertion held water then other years would show the same pattern. They do not.
- Cherry-Picked countries that support the conclusions, and excluded countries which didn't.
- Different counting methodologies used per country to maximize "doses" for countries with high IMR, and minimize doses for low IMR countries.
- Researches themselves both long-time well known anti-vaxxers, without subject matter expertise. One is an "independent researcher", the other a computer scientist.
Like any other good pseudo-science body of work, the papers project started from it's conclusion, and worked backwards to find data that could be massaged to support it. Kind of like Ken Ham and his "Creation Science".
And big pharma isn't making huge profits on vaccines, they are less profitable than other drugs and account for less than 2% of worldwide revenue. Here's an article with real linked sources: http://www.skepticalraptor.com/skeptical…
And if you trust a random antivax blog over numbers from the WHO, you've got bigger problems and should probably hide in a forest somewhere so the bogeyman doesn't get you.
-Initiative for the United Nations ECO-92 EARTH CHARTER (UN Agenda 21)
“We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.”
-Mikhail Gorbachev, former USSR president and co-founder of UN Agenda 21
“There is a single theme behind all our work–we must reduce population levels. Either governments do it our way, through nice clean methods, or they will get the kinds of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population is out of control, it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it….” “Our program in El Salvador didn’t work. The infrastructure was not there to support it. There were just too goddamned many people…. To really reduce population, quickly, you have to pull all the males into the fighting and you have to kill significant numbers of fertile age females….” The quickest way to reduce population is through famine, like in Africa, or through disease like the Black Death….”
-Thomas Ferguson, State Department Office of Population Affairs
This is why I don't hesitate about getting my annual flu shot.
Question: If the useless members of the House of Republicans, GOP Senate Majority and Congress all got free trips to Disneyland, with ensuing epidemic exposure, would that help
end the Era of Stupidity?
"The researchers warn that since 1906, commercial influence has compromised Congressional legislation to protect the public from unsafe drugs, adding that the authorization of user fees in 1992 has turned drug companies into the FDA’s prime clients, deepening the regulatory and cultural capture of the agency.
Part of the regulatory and cultural capture of the FDA has enabled the industry to successfully demand shorter average review times. Less time to thoroughly review the evidence, warn the researchers, has led to increased hospitalization and death."
What is it with this trend in Stranger articles now for the writers to make everything about them? Guess what Stranger Writer? Your God awful ugly earrings that the world can see were tacky in 1987, if they fly off on Space Mountain and smack some 7 year old in the face? Disney is on the hook for a law suit.
A minimum wage Disney worker can't peer into your soul and know your an antivaccer lunatic. But they can see those refugees from a Poison video hanging off the side of your giant head.
NSNBC ? now there is a reliable source for you.
Glad to see your degree from Google U is paying off in such dividends!
I already know way more than I need to know about lunatic anti-vaxxers, I'm more interested in stories about Disneyland employees and I was very interested in yours specifically just from the title and first bit. Then I got exasperated and there was no payoff, nor explanation. Now I am just sad.
By the way, Rachel--I really like your earrings! Where did you get them?
Just to let folks know--and I'm not trying to be a Disney-downer or doomsday-sayer, so please don't get me wrong, here. I have plenty of good memories of Disneyland, too--but there are some additional hazards at Disneyland (and a lot of other amusement parks as well) besides what the corporation considers as publicly unacceptable dress codes and non-vaccinated children spreading preventable diseases cross-country. Be aware, too, of height / weight and clearance levels on certain rides (read: The Matterhorn Bobsled, for one).
I LOVED the Matterhorn the first time I rode on it back in the day--at age 8 (=good memory). Much later, as a returning adult tourist and U.S. armed forces veteran, even with scrunching way down low inside the bobsled and keeping my entire body well within the confines of the ride--the interior tunnel passages were so narrow while going at top speed that I was scared shitless I'd lose a hand or my head would fly off (=scarier memory). Fortunately, nothing bad happened my second time on board the Matterhorn as a fully grown 20-something. But that really DID happen once--to a child who got up while the bobsled was moving, and became instantly and tragically decapitated. Amusement park height / weight / clearance warnings are there for good reason.
I dunno--despite its international reputation for being "The Happiest Place on Earth", the thought of working as a Disneyland park employee sounds highly stressful to me. Maybe it's partly because I never had kids.
Anybody amongst us bloggers who has worked at an amusement park? What are your thoughts?
Sorry if I got off on a tangent.
First off, asking someone things like "prove without a doubt the CDC is not corrupt" is conspiracy nitpicking 101. Obviously I cannot disprove that, anymore than I can disprove that reptilian aliens run our government or that there is a interstellar BDSM club on Mars. its also besides the point, since the ball is in both our courts - it just so happens that all the evidence is on my side, and so you resort to flailing at random topics and making weird challenges.
On the weird challenge front, exactly how much am I being paid by the GM lobby, and by whom? If they are going to pay me for having an opinion, I'd sure like the check before rent comes due!