Features Nov 9, 2006 at 4:00 am

This Male Escort Doesn't Think Mike Jones Is a Hero

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I liked what http://www.jesuscampthemovie.com/haggard_response.html Jesus Camp
exposed. I agree that it was totally wrong to expose Haggard's life like that (though he was a complete hypocrite) since it isn't right for a real professional escort to ruin confidentiality. Very un-professional in my opinion too.
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There's only one high priced escort and that's T.D. Faison. He was one of the most sought after male escorts by the rich and famous. There's talk of him being attached to all sorts of famous people. I also hear he did all this to fight for custody of his child. Wow, what an example of a father's love. I hope people stand up and applaud T.D. Faison. A real man for hire.
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This post is for Mike;

Mike; I don’t agree with what you did; on the other note, I won’t point a finger at your lifestyle, your sexual orientation or anything else that you do. Who am I to judge you? Only God is the judge. But I will say that what goes around comes around. It all dependes on your true motive of exposing Pastor Ted. No, Pastor Ted was not right in what he was doing either; and he will have to pay for what he did just like you will…….but no man has the right to judge or point a finger at another. We may disagree with what we see, but we must measure all human motives and intentions by what God’s word has to say on the subject. Someone mentioned there was nothing in the Bible about marriage being just for a man and a woman. God created marriage, and the sanctity of marriage, and it is just for a man and a woman…and oh yeah, this is coming from me, a man that has affections for other men, but I know what I do is wrong, and I know that God did not intend for a man to marry a man or a woman to marry a woman; if this was so, he would have stated it in the Bible; but when God created the first Man (Adam), he did not create another man to be Adam’s mate, he created a woman, who came from the womb of the man to be his helper/mate (read your Bible). homosexuality, bisexuality, or any other sexual choice outside of the normal man and woman relationship is wrong. Your choice is your choice Mike, but when you come to stand before the Creator, be ready to justify all that you have done. No one has the right to judge you but God…….and he will.

Garry



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I think he did the right thing. He sacrificed his livelihood so that this man would be exposed for what he is.
Christians would have you living in their version of Iran if they had their way. Dont forget that. Fundamental christian beliefs about science, sex, morality, and women, are virtually indistinguishable from that of fundamentalist muslims. Its about guilt, male dominance, shame, control, and ignorance. When truth, enlightenment, tolerance, and love flew out the window for both parties, is a mystery, because those are the values that both religions originally embraced. Its very, very sad to see so many people fall for it. When christian ASSHOLES like haggard are brought down, its a wonderful thing. not all christians are assholes, but this guy really was. These people threaten MY RIGHTS as a straight woman! not just gays! when are strait people going to wake up and smell the coffee? this is EVERYONE'S FIGHT against intolerance and ignorance.
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"You were paid for sex, Mike. The most important rule you can follow when taking people's money in exchange for sex is that—no matter what—their lives stay their own and whatever passes between the two of you remains private. Period. Your leap from paid crotch monkey to gay-rights crusader certainly doesn't impress your fellow sex workers."

Bullshit. Mike Jones impressed this female sex worker. While I absolutely believe in protecting the privacy of my clients and do tolerate their hypocrisy to a wide extent, there is a line drawn somewhere and Ted Haggard most definitely crossed it. Behind that line includes the particularly heinous and immoral crimes and deceptions, like homicide, rape, child molestation, and yes, religious hypocrisy for clergy/preachers. You think preachers spreading hate while living a double-life aren't doing tremendous harm to communities? They absolutely are! Intentionally, PUBLICLY, misleading people in matters of faith and morality supersedes any discretion clause.

Your personal beliefs are your own to tangle with 'til you stand up at a pulpit and tell other they're going to burn in hell for living a "life of sin" that you yourself secretly partake in. That goes beyond cruel and anybody with a conscience would struggle in Mr. Jones's predicament.

By coming forward, Mike Jones sacrificed his own livelihood, some of his friends, and his privacy. This did not come without a cost. And to Gary: hasn't he been judged enough already? If his motives had been malicious he could have sued the church, but he did not. It appears now he's mostly trying to make ends meet.

My hat's off to Mr. Jones. He showed integrity in that he didn't allow his role as an escort or fear of exposure and harassment to deter him from speaking the truth where it counts.
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"You were paid for sex, Mike. The most important rule you can follow when taking people's money in exchange for sex is that—no matter what—their lives stay their own and whatever passes between the two of you remains private. Period. Your leap from paid crotch monkey to gay-rights crusader certainly doesn't impress your fellow sex workers."

Bullshit. Mike Jones impressed this female sex worker. While I absolutely believe in protecting the privacy of my clients and do tolerate their hypocrisy to a wide extent, there is a line drawn somewhere and Ted Haggard most definitely crossed it. Behind that line includes the particularly heinous and immoral crimes and deceptions, like homicide, rape, child molestation, and yes, religious hypocrisy for clergy/preachers. You think preachers spreading hate while living a double-life aren't doing tremendous harm to communities? They absolutely are! Intentionally, PUBLICLY, misleading people in matters of faith and morality supersedes any discretion clause.

Your personal beliefs are your own to tangle with 'til you stand up at a pulpit and tell other they're going to burn in hell for living a "life of sin" that you yourself secretly partake in. That goes beyond cruel and anybody with a conscience would struggle in Mr. Jones's predicament.

By coming forward, Mike Jones sacrificed his own livelihood, some of his friends, and his privacy. This did not come without a cost. And to Gary: hasn't he been judged enough already? If his motives had been malicious he could have sued the church, but he did not. It appears now he's mostly trying to make ends meet.

My hat's off to Mr. Jones. He showed integrity in that he didn't allow his role as an escort or fear of exposure and harassment to deter him from speaking the truth where it counts.
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"You were paid for sex, Mike. The most important rule you can follow when taking people's money in exchange for sex is that—no matter what—their lives stay their own and whatever passes between the two of you remains private. Period. Your leap from paid crotch monkey to gay-rights crusader certainly doesn't impress your fellow sex workers."

Bullshit. Mike Jones impressed this female sex worker. While I absolutely believe in protecting the privacy of my clients and do tolerate their hypocrisy to a wide extent, there is a line drawn somewhere and Ted Haggard most definitely crossed it. Behind that line includes the particularly heinous and immoral crimes and deceptions, like homicide, rape, child molestation, and yes, religious hypocrisy for clergy/preachers. You think preachers spreading hate while living a double-life aren't doing tremendous harm to communities? They absolutely are! Intentionally, PUBLICLY, misleading people in matters of faith and morality supersedes any discretion clause.

Your personal beliefs are your own to tangle with 'til you stand up at a pulpit and tell other they're going to burn in hell for living a "life of sin" that you yourself secretly partake in. That goes beyond cruel and anybody with a conscience would struggle in Mr. Jones's predicament.

By coming forward, Mike Jones sacrificed his own livelihood, some of his friends, and his privacy. This did not come without a cost. And to Gary: hasn't he been judged enough already? If his motives had been malicious he could have sued the church, but he did not. It appears now he's mostly trying to make ends meet.

My hat's off to Mr. Jones. He showed integrity in that he didn't allow his role as an escort or fear of exposure and harassment to deter him from speaking the truth where it counts.
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"You were paid for sex, Mike. The most important rule you can follow when taking people's money in exchange for sex is that—no matter what—their lives stay their own and whatever passes between the two of you remains private. Period. Your leap from paid crotch monkey to gay-rights crusader certainly doesn't impress your fellow sex workers."

Bullshit. Mike Jones impressed this female sex worker. While I absolutely believe in protecting the privacy of my clients and do tolerate their hypocrisy to a wide extent, there is a line drawn somewhere and Ted Haggard most definitely crossed it. Behind that line includes the particularly heinous and immoral crimes and deceptions, like homicide, rape, child molestation, and yes, religious hypocrisy for clergy/preachers. You think preachers spreading hate while living a double-life aren't doing tremendous harm to communities? They absolutely are! Intentionally, PUBLICLY, misleading people in matters of faith and morality supersedes any discretion clause.

Your personal beliefs are your own to tangle with 'til you stand up at a pulpit and tell other they're going to burn in hell for living a "life of sin" that you yourself secretly partake in. That goes beyond cruel and anybody with a conscience would struggle in Mr. Jones's predicament.

By coming forward, Mike Jones sacrificed his own livelihood, some of his friends, and his privacy. This did not come without a cost. And to Gary: hasn't he been judged enough already? If his motives had been malicious he could have sued the church, but he did not. It appears now he's mostly trying to make ends meet.

My hat's off to Mr. Jones. He showed integrity in that he didn't allow his role as an escort or fear of exposure and harassment to deter him from speaking the truth where it counts.
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Who wrote the book of love? Apparently Mr. Nicholas did. Or at least the Little Golden Book of Sex Worker Ethics.

Unfortunately, it ain't much of a book so far... We got us some ad hominem attacks, some arguments to tradition, and more variations on the ever-popular "everybody knows..." theme than I can count until Vivace reopens in the morning.

Quit with the "once upon a time" and "since the dawn of time" and "it was understood" and "the most important rule" crap, which in addition to getting you thrown off the junior high debate team should also get you bitch slapped by any queen worthy of the name. (I hate to tell you, but if "since the dawn of time" applies, we two faggots are going to be burned at the stake if Pastor Haggard and his cronies ever get their way.)

Show me the law. Show me the rule book. Show me the contract. Show me some agreement, any agreement, that anybody anywhere actually agreed to... And above all, show me why we should continue honoring the self-serving double standards rich "straight" white men like Haggard set up for themselves. And if you can't show me, please, please don't tell me.

There's no such thing as a gentleman's agreement when one of the parties is obviously neither. If you don't pass judgment on a destructive, hate-mongering hypocrite then you are morally asleep at the wheel of your own life.

This isn't about trust and it certainly isn't about privacy. It's about hypocrisy, and more than that, shame.

Give _me_ a fucking break.
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So sorry for the repeats. I asked the site manager to remove them.
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Mr. Nicholas, I'd like to say that I disagree with you, but hope to do it in a manner that is not disagreeable. What I think you're missing here is that sometimes things are not so clear cut, not so black and white. As someone above pointed out, there are cases where a sex worker may know of a heinous crime committed by a client. Should the escort keep his or her mouth shut when they could expose a murderer, rapist or other violent criminal? I think even you might find it necessary to expose a client in a case like that. Mr. Jones obviously gave some thought to it before he came forward. He just made a different judgment call than you would have made in a difficult situation. Jones obviously was cutting his own throat professionally by outting Haggard. He exposed himself to criminal prosecution and threats to his life. If he's making a buck off talking about this dilemma, I think it's more likely because he's no longer able to make a living the way he used to do, rather than him having planned his "15 minutes of fame" from the start. He was in a tight spot where it would have been uncomfortable to speak or not to speak. In fact, he probably took the more difficult and more socially responsible path. He just made a different call than you would have made. If we're all going to be adults here and not be judgmental of others, let's give Mike Jones the benefit of the doubt rather than be 'holier than thou' (which is what ultimately let to Haggard's downfall).
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This is a ridiculous argument. I'm a journalist, so I know about confidentiality, but even in my profession, there are times when the news value of confidential information trumps the confidence in which it's given.

To my knowledge, Mike Jones is no journalist, but I think it was perfectly ethical for him to expose Haggard.

Haggard isn't the worst of anti-gay bigots, but by preaching a relatively "moderate" line against gays from the pulpit, he helped enable the people like Lou Sheldon of the Traditional Values Coalition, with whom he had a professional relationship and whose organization is listed as an anti-gay hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Haggard helped make the unhinged bigotry of people like Sheldon, James Dobson and Tony Perkins just a little more permissible.

All the while, he was having sex with a gay prostitute and even trying to seduce members of his own church. That sounds like hypocrisy, but Haggard lived what the religious right considers the life of a model gay citizen: Deep in the closet, self-hating and married to a member of the opposite sex while having the occasional same-sex encounter in secret, only to be publicly shamed, arrested or even executed if exposed. That's how gays are forced to live in Islamic countries, and that's how the religious right wants us to be forced to live here.

Haggard is far more than a mere Elmer Gantry hypocrite. He's a danger to gay people everywhere, and he had to be stopped.

I salute Mike Jones for exposing him.
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This why, disunity is among the LGBT. Communities this minor dispute: personally. Has
no effect on LGBT political front, what did. Expose the hypocrisy of American clergy. Not only Ted numerous incidents were. Preacher caught in sexual doubt simply. I was elated when Ted didn't acknowledge. Male to Male sex encounter with LGBT community. Thank you never had any doubt of my. Choice see there so many turn condoms. Gay community no seeking Mr. Political correct! Hello, this why division is extreme, Mike other escorts. bashing from Denver
Gay front are on Ted's. Are on Ted's Cock or
Pay role besides. Mike had every right to expose this Bastard. Giving hate sermons on LGBT
community. Ted you lie out right cause. To pay
for escorts you was child molested? Well this odd why the continued need to pay. Male to Male
sex this appease confused America! Fucking liar
insult: before anyone ridicules. Mike as worthless Paid Escort Jock! Regardless, Mike Cock unlocked the hidden untruths of perverted.
Preacher Ted whom detest Gays in the closet!
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This why, disunity is among the LGBT. Communities this minor dispute: personally. Has
no effect on LGBT political front, what did. Expose the hypocrisy of American clergy. Not only Ted numerous incidents were. Preacher caught in sexual doubt simply. I was elated when Ted didn't acknowledge. Male to Male sex encounter with LGBT community. Thank you never had any doubt of my. Choice see there so many turn condoms. Gay community no seeking Mr. Political correct! Hello, this why division is extreme, Mike other escorts. bashing from Denver
Gay front are on Ted's. Are on Ted's Cock or
Pay role besides. Mike had every right to expose this Bastard. Giving hate sermons on LGBT
community. Ted you lie out right cause. To pay
for escorts you was child molested? Well this odd why the continued need to pay. Male to Male
sex this appease confused America! Fucking liar
insult: before anyone ridicules. Mike as worthless Paid Escort Jock! Regardless, Mike Cock unlocked the hidden untruths of perverted.
Preacher Ted whom detest Gays in the closet!

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