Features Apr 3, 2013 at 4:00 am

SideCar Is the Best Thing to Happen to Hitchhiking Since the Invention of Thumbs

Jon Adams

Comments

1
Sharing rides like this is common in plenty of places (Russia comes to mind), but what makes this different is that it automatically excludes anyone without a smart phone and data plan. I mention this not to pass judgement, but because I'm surprised that Mudede of all people wouldn't have addressed the underlying class issues here.
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People with smartphones and data plans can proxy requests for others, though.

Also, pickups with the collaborative navigation and ridesharing app 'Waze' work on any device that can receive email or SMS.
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Also, drivers keep 80% of the donations after SideCar takes it's cut for providing the service of connecting them with riders, doing background checks and various other promotional stuff.

The Seattle launch was covered previously: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive…
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I'm a little disappointed they require cars from 2000 and newer. I wanted to be paid to give people rides in my 45 year old station wagon.
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I would never use a service like this. You do realize that if your friendly driver gets into an accident, their insurance isn't going to pay a dime of your medical bills, because non-commercial insurance doesn't cover using your vehicle as a private taxi? Way to play roulette with your future.
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@5 if you pick up a hitchhiker and they give you money then you get into an accident, does your insurance not cover them?

What if you arrange the ride on Craigslist first?

How about sending out a Tweet offering any responding party a ride?

Please support your claims with a reference, if you're able.
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Leave it to a bunch of greedy douchebags in Seattle to turn hitch hiking into a fee-based system. And leave it to the Stranger to let one of its writers be the sort of whore who re-writes some venture capitalist's press release.

I'd say you fuckwads should be ashamed of yourselves and your corruption, but you're incapable of it.
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SideCar is originally based in San Francisco and continues to operate in the Golden State, in case you want to be precise in the projection of your vitriol.

I've given and will continue to give free rides to people. Services like SideCar help people who are hesitant to try ridesharing with their peers get over their fear. Why do you hate the sharing economy?
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This is really no different than a taxi. Did you never know that taxis existed?
10
I just checked my auto insurance policy, and #5 is correct.
11
Quite a long boring article devoted to a product. It seems The Stranger is turning to the infomercial zine.
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#11, between stuff like this and the shilling for McGinn, Paul Allen, and apodments, it's pretty clear that the Stranger is a leisure time service for Seattle's real estate whores, billionaires, and their servant class.
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@12 it's always easy to shit out conspiracy theories but difficult to fill in the details, which is why nobody ever does.
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If this business is deemed to be legal and catches on it could put cabbies out of business. It would be great for old people who wanted to quit owning a car and for young people with a car and no job. Putting a young child in car seat in back and carrying passengers in front might pay better than a minimum wage job and child care bills.

On the other hand, what does the IRS say? I suspect it is taxable income, same as tips for food service and hotel employees. Still could be better than a minimum wage job. But then insurance companies would go bjerk. And if the money was taxable then the miliage should be deductable.

In other words, it could work as long as it didn't become popular.
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I feel bad for whop ever picked up Charles, it is going to take weeks for the stench to dissipate from their vehicles.

If this is how he keeps his desk at work imagine how disgusting his house is.
http://lineout.thestranger.com/files/200…

A lazy marxist?
Whoda thunk it?
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I must have been under some kind of spell. I had no idea I was writing about Halliburton. I thought I was writing about a car sharing service. The devil has so many tricks.
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Hang in there Charles, the devil doesn't usually fuck with us lazy marxists for more than a few days.
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Is there a blow job instead of cash option? If not then its nothing like hitch hiking.
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Paying to hitchhike? Get the fuck out of here.
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To speak beyond my, above, immediate reaction: This is the Disneyfying of hitchhiking, making it, apparently, nice and safe, all for a small fee and a bit of the gas money. To me, and I think other riders would agree,it defeats a good chunk of the purpose. Hitchhiking is meant to be free, it should be a little dangerous, and it sure as hell shouldn't require a smartphone. I just don't understand why someone scared of hitchhiking for free, the way it has been done forever would want to instead pay for a cheaper, less meaningful experience. But to each their own, as for me I'll be on the on-ramp with my thumb out.
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Anyone who operates their car as a taxicab, which is what that system enables, had sure as fuck better check the insurance policy. Accidents are called accidents for a reason, and if you crash while you're carrying that passenger you could be in for a financially devastating surprise.

Think the shysters at SideCar or their whores at the Stranger are going to tell you about that? You'd better think again. Oh, and so you know, damn few accidents are ruled 100% anyone's fault. So if you think your superior driving skills are going to protect you, then you'd better think about that one too.
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It occurs to me that SideCar is taking a cut, so they might also be liable for operating as the taxicab dispatcher. Stay tuned!
24
is anyone reminded of the electronic thumb in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? (Reading this from the UK the only clever thing we do here is to flag down minicabs then phone them from the kerb to make the booking official. You are only legally allowed to flag a black cab).
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is anyone reminded of the electronic thumb in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? (In the UK the only clever thing we do here is to flag down minicabs then phone them from the kerb to make the booking official. You are only legally allowed to flag a black cab).
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Damn, why is everyone flaming this article? He made it clear payment was optional.

It seemed to me that the overall point was that it encourages ridesharing which is a very green option for commuters. And if it has the potential to earn you a quick buck while doing a service for someone else, why the hell not?
27
As a regular Sidecar user of 5 months. The app's suggested donation is about $3/$4 cheaper than a cab 100% of the time. Other things I love about the app is that the drivers call and warn you of their eta. I don't ever have to stand out in the cold to make sure the driver doesn't miss my house, I can finish putting on lipstick/playing with jewelry until the moment the driver arrives bc the app lets me watch the ride approach my house on the map. I've found this way of getting around extremely convenient, cheap and fun! My biggest worry is that my favorite drivers get snatched up while ridership rises! Of course, that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make if that means those same drivers can make serious dough connecting the most hip and social Sidecar riders with the thriving nightlife in Seattle. Getting around cheaper lets me spend more while I'm enjoying my night!
28
This article is ridiculous. So is this service actually. It's hardly a legal service, and plays very unfairly with the competition. The fact that Charles can't look past the convenience and tries to sell it as a subculture says everything about the Charles character. You can easily replace 'Sidecar' with 'Walmart', and the article would be just as relevant. How convenient! And by the way, their insurance is definitely not protecting you, and you also may want to read the fine print when you agree to download the app. You've signed away any liability whatsoever on sidecars end. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.
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I, too, think the article is lame. At least it could have raised the question of whether the system is safe. Sure, several rides and no mishaps sounds good. Ratings help.

But people are fickle. Maybe on the 30th ride, the passenger turns wolf. Maybe the recovering sex offender looses it after 3 years.

Personally, I have no idea what the track record of SideCar is. Nor do I know what safeguards they have in place and how effective the are compared to, say, taxi services. I would have found a more indepth story helpful.
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Yes, #27, and because it runs on smart phones, your driver will probably be a lot whiter than one of those grotty dark foreign cab drivers. Extra benefit for Seattle's yuppie wannabes, no?
31
For once I thought well this is a well written article... until about half way down.
#1 is right, this system favors those with money, thus using (not really creating) a certain class system. And puts a dampener on the Hippy side of life we enjoy in the PNW, after all, you're a hipster hippy if you own a smartphone and can afford it's data plan (for the most part yes, I know there are exceptions but if you have a Iphone (any version) or a new (<2 year old) smart phone, you're no hippy in my book).

Since when does a stranger offer you the use of their phone nowadays anyway? You got to stop trolling Glib, if this was your article and you were trying to counter points made by your readers I would understand, otherwise, say your point and leave.

The concern about private insurance not covering commercial driving (which this is) is totally valid, even if the website does offer compensation if you get caught (ei in a accident.

The more I think about it the more I come to the realization that this really just looks like a advertisement in disguise of a news article... an infomercial of sorts. Shame on you The Stranger for selling out like this.
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@31 if you want to lecture someone about trolling, try doing it from a registered account. Also, you fail to understand that someone can request a ride on another's behalf; The system doesn't currently restrict requests to the reported location of the phone.

On the larger scale, what do you expect people to do as their metro services get cut? Unless HB 1959 somehow passes, there's going to be much more ridesharing to come.
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#32, maybe Metro will have to live within its means. Terrible thought!
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@32, Glib.

Thank you for proving my point, and I appologize if I like my pseudo anonymity, doesn't make me a troll, it makes me securiy consious, besides it's only a facade as I use the same email every time so I'm really only anonymous to the readers, not the staff.

Guess I'm falling for your trap by responding, making me guilty of my first comments to you, so you win, how's that?

however, I "fail to understand that someone can request a ride on antoher's behalf"? not so, I understand that a friend can do that for you but how often have you loaned out your fancy smart phone to a stranger to let them do that or have done it for them? you missed my point completely but then again what could I expect from someone who has commented on about 1/3~1/4 of the commentes here? Troll much? how do YOU define trolling? just because you have a registerd account doens't NOT make you a troll.

Seeing this blob's got almost nothing to do with the article, I vote that it sould be deleted. Mine and all others that have nothing or very little to bring to discussion of this article.
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The haters out there! I didn't know it was such a crime for a journalist to appreciate innovation and technology.
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@34 one needn't loan out one's smartphone to request a ride on a friend's behalf. The pin may be dropped anywhere on the map. This does erode the claim that drivers are assured that their passengers have been screened by the identity associated with the credit card they use to sign up, though.
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Unbrainwashed is silly and hostile toward anything outside his or her viewpoint - there's absolutely no compromise in the thinking. Fact is, smartphones are in the hands of most economic classes and across most ethnic groups. Not all smartphones require beefy and expensive data plans or contracts. It's possible to get working coverage for less than $50/month. I had a no-contract phone for a while and seem to remember paying $40/month.

I don't know how you imagine the world to be but it's not realistic. Your assertion that Sidecar is for white yuppies is absolutely ludicrous. I've been driving for them to help with my car payment. I've picked up blacks, whites, Asians, hispanics, etc. from all kinds of walks of life. Get over yourself, you're WAY out of touch.
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Oh, and as far as your comment in #10 regarding insurance, maybe YOUR policy doesn't allow this but that doesn't preclude coverage in ALL policies. You speak in a way that assumes you have all the answers, and that none of us have thought any of this through. Well, MY policy covers me. I checked with a CSR and had it further supported by speaking directly with a policy specialist. Seriously, you REALLY need to get over yourself, you come across like a whiny and ill-informed senile old grandma from the hinterland, for real.
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Get informed is the answer to most of the halfassed comments on here. Maybe prevent yourself from appearing so ignorant to those that actually took the time to research before responding/commenting to something strictly noted on this page.
Get some facts: http://www.side.cr/safety
All drivers are pre-vetted for safety, all rides are GPS tracked and everyone who rides is covered by our unique $1 million dollar insurance policy. We have many additional features in place to help maintain your safety and security.
Then process the information before you type...
This company has put a LOT of answers to a LOT of questions right on their site. Go figure...what a concept.
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Personally I love the idea and if it was near me I would use it. I go green by not owning a car...haven't for over 3 years now. And this concept appeals to me after taking cabs with VERY scrupulous looking drivers and well-worn vehicles that were dirty and the stench inside nauseating. And the cost was more than the Sidecar "suggested" prices that are "voluntary". I hope this grows quickly...let people that own nice vehicles and pass background checks (not sure all cab drivers do) use their vehicles to the benefit of others. Bring it on Sidecar!

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