Couldn't it just be that she's a high school student? I'm fine with prostitutes but not ones who can't legally drink yet...

More Lindy, please.

@4: Insightful if he were being graded on a curve and all the other students being assessed were 17 years old.

I give a full pass to the simplicity of the way it's communicated (writing in a second language is an awe-inspiring achievement; I nearly failed Spanish in high school and now could only write something about a dog crapping in the library), but I don't give a pass to the simplicity of the idea. On the surface it is correct, but the surface is the full content. Most high school kids could "reason" that out.

Back to Lindy, please.

Ah, the French. Without them we wouldn't have melted cheese, S&M Clubs, or public lice. Oh, We would also still be British. American attitutes toward sex are definiatly fucked. We invented the birth control pill and then spent the next 30 years agonizing about it. In the early 60's we were more uptight than the British. Holy Crap! Easy A is a stupid movie written by stupid people for stupid reasons. Nuff said.

I'm pretty sure this French Intern character is something the Stranger gave birth to after having sex with itself.

Okay, now I'm sure of it.

The guy playing Julien in photos and at Slog Happy is a young cousin of Charles Mudede who aspires to be an actor.

But I don't think Charles is the conceptualist behind these posts. Any guesses whose slapstick sense of "Frenchness" is writing these?

Mean Girls was great

Um...yes. Prostitutes deserve dignity and our respect like any other human being...that does not make it a good idea to go out and become a prostitute. Prostitutes work in a very dangerous environment. Violent johns, STDs, cops, etc. and that doesn't even get into societal issues like what mum, dad, and the boyfriend think about it. Can't we just be happy that there's a movie out demonizing proselytizing christian bitches and making it a good idea to help your persecuted gay buddies out? I really don't think we need a movie encouraging young women to become prostitutes...

@7, FTW

NOOOOOOOOOOOO.

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING?

HOLLYWOOD MAKES THESE TERRIBLE MOVIES SO THAT LINDY WILL DO A FUNNY REVIEW.

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@ 10 American puritanism in action... He's not saying we should encourage young women to become prostitutes, but that prostitution shouldn't be seen as something to be ashamed of, and not used as a plot device to show that in the end our heroine is a good girl BECAUSE she is not a prostitute.

And by the way, if you legalize prostitution, you remove most of the elements of danger from it. Just like legalizing drugs... But American puritanism (or hypocrisy) won't allow that, will it?

@13 Did you just call me american puritanism in action? Because I am a) not american and b) puritans regularly tell me I need to be saved.

Yes, legalized prostitution is a good idea. But I think we should all be happy for the people in our lives when they decide not to become prostitutes... Prostitution as it exists in North America is mainly a drug and violence riddled hellhole. Yes, legalized prostitution would be nice, but when your country can't even agree that gay people deserve rights too, I think it's a little farfetched.

I, for one, liked the review Julien. I had thought in advance that I would like the movie up until the end, and apparently I was right. Doesn't help me to decide whether or not to bother watching it, though.

@14 If "I think we should all be happy for the people in our lives when they decide not to become prostitutes..." is not a perfect example of puritanism disguised as good intentions (i.e. American - or worse, Canadian-style), then I've been living on Mars for the last 45 years.

I've met some very happy prostitutes who worked in safe environments and were totally in control of their lives, and I don't think they would have been happy doing something else. And yes, there were some North American prostitues among them. Who are we - and who are you - to determine unilaterally that this is never the case?

You should also note that countries that legalized prostitution did it before granting rights to gays, so it's not that far-fetched at all.

@16 It must be nice getting to meet happy healthy prostitutes, and getting to ignore the street prostitutes with pimps..
Last time I checked Pig Farmers hadn't raped, murdered and fed any teachers or bartenders or IBM emplyoees to his pigs....

@ 17 Are you being thick on purpose, or were you born that way? Oh, I'm sorry, you must be Canadian, from the example you give... So I have my answer right there.

I'm not ignoring street prostitutes with pimps, I'm just trying to tell you that not every prostitute is the victim YOU believe them to be. You're the one who doesn't want to see the whole situation here, so please don't accuse me of that. And you know, it's pretty arrogant of you to think that you're opinion of prostitution covers every possible aspect of the situation when you obviously only have very limited knowledge of what you're talking about... probably gathered from some sensasionalist TV news report, again from the example you give.

At any rate, my point (and Julien's, I believe) was not that we should encourage prostitution (I also know what its evils are... and you should learn to read before you get on your high horses), but that Hollywood movies should stop making an equation between prostitutes and so-called "bad girls". Because this is unrealistic and hypocritically moralistic.

Is it clear enough now?

A pretty lazy diatribe posing as a movie review. I wanteed to know what you thought of the acting/writing/direction. As a god-mocking atheist, I piss on your movie "review".

I hope you die, Julien. I HOPE YOU FUCKING DIE!

I love you Julien. You can do/write/say whatever you want. You are French. I'm ambivalent about your "review" though, although it does make me want to see the movie because I like movies about teenagers having sex. Of course it would be nice if there were actual teenagers-having-sex scenes, but it sounds like we're getting there. Just need a few more movies about teenagers having sex.

What the hell kind of movie review is this you pretentious French twat*?

*mean girls was awesome for what it was. julien just needs to justify liking a movie his hipster french mind tells him he shouldn't like.

I see what you're getting at here. What bothered me the most about this movie is that it never addressed how the boys who were said to have slept with her rose immediately to the top of the high school stud pile, popular with boys and girls alike (one even commenting on how many dates he was getting post-fake sex), and from the very first fake sexual encounter, the girl was the target of harassment from the entire student body. She was ostracized and any who were said to have fucked her were placed on goddamn pedestals. It's not that I'm surprised that this was in the movie, it just would have been nice if SOMEONE, ANYONE in the movie would have addressed the double standard.

IG!!!!! I WANT LINDY!!!!!!

No one is saying I believe all prostitutes are victims.I'm just saying if you care about the young people in your life, you're not going to encourage them to start a career that is illegal and dangerous. And yes, even for the high class prostitutes, the career choice is illegal, dangerous, short-lived, and socially stigmatized. Please never become a career counsellor.

@25 - Now I'm truly convinced that you were born that thick.

Contrary to what you affirm, I am indeed saying that you believe all prostitutes to be victims, because you won't accept any argument to the contrary. Read your own posts, will you?

But what we're talking about here is a double standard in the American (or maybe Anglo-Saxon) mentality. I never said young girls should become prostitutes (I never said they shouldn't, either: if they are in a position to make that choice, if it's not out of necessity or obligation, then it's up to them and them only to decide what they do with their body). I just said I had met some happy ones - and they probably were happy because they worked in a safe environment and they felt they had full control of their lives. They were independant, strong-willed women who had chosen their field because the advantages it gave them corresponded to the lifestyle they wanted.

By the way, I have no desire to become a career counsellor, and it's a bit immature of you to resort to that kind of "clever ending" when it has nothing to do with what I said. But you're obviously clutching at straws.

All I said on the matter of violence towards prostitutes is that if you legalize prostitution, it gets less violent for them. It actually EMPOWERS them (see: the Netherlands). But you didn't want to hear that, did you? Because that doesn't fit your one and only argument, which you're unable to defend in any way except by repeating it ad nauseam and not taking into consideration anything else that is said on the subject.

You're letting your albeit "honorable" sentiments get in the way of what is really the point of this discussion, which is precisely that prostitution shouldn't be "socially stigmatized", because that's hypocritical (and many other bad adjectives): there wouldn't be prostitutes if there wasn't a demand for them. As others in this thread have pointed out, why do the guys in the movie who are supposed to have slept with the girl gain social acceptance while she is treated as an outcast? THAT is what we are talking about. Learn to read.

Prostitutes don't need your well-intentioned sentiments that really only perpetuate prejudices, they need to be recognized and accepted as a vital part of all societies (which they have always been). If they're not hiding from laws and prejudices, then it won't be so easy to kill them, because they'll be able to report violent johns before it's too late and be taken seriously by the police instead of being brushed off. It's a simple equation.

Now, is it clear enough for you, even with you're blinders on?

@ 25 - See "Ho, Canada!" posting by Dan Savage

I'm sorry, but you're assuming that I'm against the legalization of prostitution. Quite the contrary. I'm actually happy and relieved that prostitution is on it's way to being legalized in Canada.

-The job is stigmatized and dangerous
- it makes sense for people not to enter stigmatized and dangerous careers.
- one is not wrong to advise someone against joining a stigmatized and dangerous career.
- recognizing that a career is stigmatized does not mean that one approves of the stigma.

Prostitution as it exists at the moment in North America is a dangerous job. Yes, it would be nice for it to be legalized, because then it would be less dangerous. But as it is now, it's still dangerous! so it's generally speaking a bad idea to engage in prostitution, in this dangerous situation that exists now. That is what I have been saying. Please don't attribute views to me (against legalization and destigmatization of prostitution, that it's somehow immoral) when those are not my views at all, and nowhere did I express them.

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