As soon as you add fruit, it's no longer "pizza." You could call it "artisan cheesy flatbread" or something. This goes double for any so-called "pizza" with pineapple on it, which is no longer a pizza, but an abomination.
@1 Well, I didn't want to mention it because I got it from a place in Nashville, TN called Bella Pizza, which is so, so far away from Seattle. :( Sorry for teasing you with it. (It was so delicious!)
@2: You are insane. Pineapple goes well with so many things. Also, for whatever reason, my 18 year old cat, who won't eat anything (she hasn't spent a day of her life over 7.5 lbs, and she's not small lengthwise) will eat pineapple off pizza.
Beats us, but she enjoys it, and it gets her food AND water.
There's a place near me that does something very similar. It's delicious, but then you wake up the next day all stoked you've got left over pizza and you're all "oh yeah... this." [sad trombone]
So, yes, pizza, but you better order a cheese or peperoni or something more pizza-ey along with it or you're going to be left with that "just had [pizza] but still craving [pizza]" feeling that also happens with artisan doughnuts and really really fancy hamburgers.
People who say fruit belies pizza forget what tomatoes and peppers are. They are, in short, numbskulls.
As to your pizza, Meagan, I'm glad you liked it, but for some reason, it just doesn't look that good to me. I'm also not a fan of Balsimic, so there's that.
In other words: Yes, it's a pizza, clearly.No, I wouldn't eat it.
@8 In sauce form, sure, but fuck raw tomatoes. Only sociopaths with no interest in goodness put raw tomatoes on a perfectly good pizza. Nothing is worse than leftover pizza with flaccid, spongy slices of grainy raw tomato, an affront to pizza nearly as egregious as pineapple. Almost worse, because when you try to pry off a nasty slice of raw tomato, it takes a bunch of cheese and sauce with it.
My argument stands. Sure, your pineapple may be "good" on flatbread with cheese and some kind of sauce, but the instant one of those yellow devils hits the cheese etc., it no longer qualifies as pizza.
More thoughts: Pizza is like pornography - you know it when you see it. My distain for fruit pizza doesn't mean I don't appreciate experimentation, I just retain my right to be abhorred with the results.
Yes, blue cheese sounds nice, and I used to get a pizza with cashews from that place by Gas Works Park I really liked. But I also had a chicken pizza a few weeks ago that tasted like a casserole on bread - BAD pizza, GOOD casserole.
I hate blue cheese on pizza. That said, all you fruit-on-pizza haters have clearly never had a pizza with a savory fig concoction. Delicious, especially when paired with caramelized onions or a balsamic something-or-other.
@6,
I've never tried to feed my cat pineapple, but she goes nuts when I bring a whole pineapple home. She loves chewing on the spiky top.
A pet peeve of mine is when people call balsamic vinegar simply "balsamic." The word balsamic is a description of the vinegar. If it's too much work to say both words, then it would be better to call it simply "vinegar." Only calling it balsamic is like referring to French fries as "French," or green olives as "greens."
Pizza should never have fruit. Acceptable vegetables include green peppers, onions, mushrooms, garlic...end of list. Meat toppings should be pork products.
And we won't even get into the crazy stuff the Japanese put on their pizzas: corn niblets, fish roe, seaweed, and - ugh! - mayonnaise; all of which are standard toppings from any typical Japanese Pizza Hut franchise.
Let's face it: the only thing you really need for something to qualify as "pizza" these days is a grain-based crust with a little cheese on top; everything else is optional.
Done well, a plain cheese slice is the best pizza. Restaurants outside of the northeast's Boston to Northern NJ "Good Pizza Corridor" pile a lot of shit on their pizzas because they're trying to hide the fact that they can't get a basic cheese pizza right. That being said, this thing is clearly a pizza.
@11 truth be told, I find very few toppings acceptable on pizza—75% of my pizza intake either a cheese slice or margherita, an occasional mushroom and pepperoni or sausage and pepper, and round out the last percent is OH GOD THAT WAS A FUCKING MISTAKE.
I really just felt like defending this because I'm hungry. I'd probably see that sitting there and pick all the berries off like an asshole.
While we're here—cornmeal crust...just... NO. Stop it.
Also, I regularly refer to Kalamata olives as just "kalamatas" because that's common parlance. Everyone knows what I'm talking about, because they're not stupid.
1.) First, whatever you want to call it, it is burnt, and therefore gross. Regardless of anything else you top it with, it should not taste like charcoal.
2.) Even if it were not burnt, I would still fall into the not-pizza camp. Pizza without pizza sauce is not pizza. It is vaguely pizza-like flat bread with miscellaneous toppings. It might even be delicious (if not burnt), but it is still not pizza.
@24,
If that's the definition, then you still shouldn't refer to balsamic vinegar simply as "balsamic." It doesn't contain balsam, for one, and it's silly to refer to vinegar as being "made with vinegar."
But whatever, call it whatever you want. This is a useless argument.
Megan @3: Well, I didn't want to mention it because I got it from a place in Nashville, TN called Bella Pizza, which is so, so far away from Seattle.
My first thoughts on coming across this post, in order:
1. That's an awesome-looking pizza.
2. Strawberries on a pizza? I dunno.
3. That must be a Nashville pizza.
4. It's so wonderful that Megan Seling is still writing for Slog, even if she's now in Nashville.
Megan, no one will notice if the occasional Stanley Cup playoffs post comes from Nashville. It's not like a Seattle dateline makes a difference for NHL hockey. BTW, I have so little hope for the Penguins.
You've little hope for arguably the most talented team in the league going into a home game that'd put them into the eastern conference finals? They'll be fine, bring on Boston for a rematch.
Beats us, but she enjoys it, and it gets her food AND water.
"Hawaiian Pizza" is "artisan cheesy flatbread" to me from now on!
There's a place near me that does something very similar. It's delicious, but then you wake up the next day all stoked you've got left over pizza and you're all "oh yeah... this." [sad trombone]
So, yes, pizza, but you better order a cheese or peperoni or something more pizza-ey along with it or you're going to be left with that "just had [pizza] but still craving [pizza]" feeling that also happens with artisan doughnuts and really really fancy hamburgers.
As to your pizza, Meagan, I'm glad you liked it, but for some reason, it just doesn't look that good to me. I'm also not a fan of Balsimic, so there's that.
In other words: Yes, it's a pizza, clearly.No, I wouldn't eat it.
My argument stands. Sure, your pineapple may be "good" on flatbread with cheese and some kind of sauce, but the instant one of those yellow devils hits the cheese etc., it no longer qualifies as pizza.
Yes, blue cheese sounds nice, and I used to get a pizza with cashews from that place by Gas Works Park I really liked. But I also had a chicken pizza a few weeks ago that tasted like a casserole on bread - BAD pizza, GOOD casserole.
I just don't want strawberries on my "pizza".
@6,
I've never tried to feed my cat pineapple, but she goes nuts when I bring a whole pineapple home. She loves chewing on the spiky top.
Let's face it: the only thing you really need for something to qualify as "pizza" these days is a grain-based crust with a little cheese on top; everything else is optional.
I really just felt like defending this because I'm hungry. I'd probably see that sitting there and pick all the berries off like an asshole.
While we're here—cornmeal crust...just... NO. Stop it.
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Unless "French fries" are so called because they contain French people, you're wrong.
Also, I regularly refer to Kalamata olives as just "kalamatas" because that's common parlance. Everyone knows what I'm talking about, because they're not stupid.
2.) Even if it were not burnt, I would still fall into the not-pizza camp. Pizza without pizza sauce is not pizza. It is vaguely pizza-like flat bread with miscellaneous toppings. It might even be delicious (if not burnt), but it is still not pizza.
If that's the definition, then you still shouldn't refer to balsamic vinegar simply as "balsamic." It doesn't contain balsam, for one, and it's silly to refer to vinegar as being "made with vinegar."
But whatever, call it whatever you want. This is a useless argument.
I am also conscious of the fact that I miss Berkeley's Cheeseboard Pizza. Curried potato slices and roasted garlic pizza FTW.
My first thoughts on coming across this post, in order:
1. That's an awesome-looking pizza.
2. Strawberries on a pizza? I dunno.
3. That must be a Nashville pizza.
4. It's so wonderful that Megan Seling is still writing for Slog, even if she's now in Nashville.
Megan, no one will notice if the occasional Stanley Cup playoffs post comes from Nashville. It's not like a Seattle dateline makes a difference for NHL hockey. BTW, I have so little hope for the Penguins.
You've little hope for arguably the most talented team in the league going into a home game that'd put them into the eastern conference finals? They'll be fine, bring on Boston for a rematch.
I love strawberries, but not cooked or on a pizza.
Not really. I just wanted to use the word pissaladière.
@35: Can't be, she got it in Nashville.