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Apr 23, 2009
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I'm not afraid to eat at my friends homes, in restaurants in foreign countries, or "unsanctioned" kitchens anywhere else. I can judge for myself what's suitable for my own consumption, thankyouverymuch.
Cooking is public art. As with any art, no one is forced to partake of it. You don't have to eat Claycamp's cooking if you don't want to. I'd like to try it, though.
Good luck, man.
In other words, everything you said is completely wrong.
Tell Claycamp I'll buy his stuff, contact me please.
~flomasterdelux@gmail.com
In other words, he didn't get the job.
In other words, he didn't get the job.
Why are you wasting print on this guy? He's done in Seattle.
Good luck Gabe - please stick around -- and get the damn permits you need so you CAN stick around!!!
If it were just he and his wife and she had been consulted, I'd still maybe applaud him but wish he had thought a little more.
However, there are 3 kids in the mix. I cannot applaud him. He hasn't given any thought to them at all.
Not saying he's making Madoff dollars and probably nothing he can be criminally charged for, but after the third or fourth time its a pattern. Foodie Grifter anyone?
Poor business decisions has put him in the situation he is in. He can shift the blame it on the Health Department, Liquor Control Board, Fire Department, landlords, neighbors, the economy and the media. But truly it was his arrogance, lack of business savvy, and pride that brought them down. He has a lot of ideas, but very poor on execution. The underlying concept of running a small cooking school is sound, in fact it's one of the top activities even in today's economy.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/arti…
Granted it needs to be done within certain operational parameters. Three pieces of advice.
(1) Leverage (and listen to) the people around you who have the business operations experience and take no short cuts.
(2) Work with government agencies; they are not only protecting the public but also the business owner - regardless of how frustrating or outrageous the request may be.
(3) Make peace with your community, customers and staff - focus and fulfill your commitments.
He and his family should make some humble pie, pack up the knives and move on.
rules. this guy makes good bacon.
rules. this guy makes good bacon.
Bottom line: He knew he was breaking the law all the time. He felt that he was above it. Unfortunately, this means that his innocent children will suffer now. You just can't pull that shit when you're responsible for others.
http://www.dfi.wa.gov/sd/orders/S-04-026…
Be wary of any future investments-time or money-with this guy. If they are looking for the sympathy vote, count me out.
it's really twisted when the way-left and the way-right hookup like this.
Again, the biggest fuck you you gave everyone else in the artisanal food biz is more attention from the man.
I know a half dozen of us who can't afford all the equipment or improvements to get ALL the permits, or even afford all the permits we are supposed to have.
Yet, we are keeping our mouths shut and our heads down until we can afford all the fees and improvements.
Farmers, chefs, etc. rely on us for biz, employees and partners want to get paid, jobs are on the line. I'd like to get paid this year.
Please go away and take the spotlight with you. Too bad for the next guy who tries to do a great thing with artisanal meat and support some farmers, you have fucked that niche for a while. Good job.
If I get busted by the Health Dept. my first defense is to say that, "I know I'm not in compliance, and we are working hard to get everything fixed, but please give me a break and don't shut us down, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO BE A BIG CRYBABY ASSHOLE LIKE CLAYCAMP!"
I took the bacon class at CC last summer, and have to agree with laura that their product wasn't that great - in fact, it landed at the bottom of the in-class taste test...AWKWARD! It was at this class - my first and last at CC - that I saw firsthand the general lack of respect Gabe seemed to have for the students there. Despite the fact that we had paid $100 per person to take the class, the instructor announced that she had a quota of bacon she had to sell and we were each expected to buy 3 pounds to take home - at $18/lb. My husband and I both just rolled our eyes and declined the repeated sales pitches - though the instructor was more than a bit icy towards us for the rest of the evening.
I, too, would love to have a job that allows me to do what I am passionate about, but I don't expect anyone else to finance it or bend the rules to make it happen.
Grow the fuck up.
I have done nothing except to state facts based on my own personal experience with Mr. Claycamp. My observations are...His food is tastes like SHIT! I think when a person has to audacity to state "I was pissed off no one in Seattle made good bacon." He opens himself to be criticized for the product he himself puts out. I tried his bacon, I've taken his classes. He is a charismatic fellow who markets himself shamelessly. His food is sub par, amateurish, and no better than what most good home cooks can produce in their own kitchens. These are facts as perceived by myself, a trained professional in the food industry for 20+ years. I feel for his 3 children and the hardship they must go through because their father is such an irresponsible egomaniac.
He's just another no-talent conman who uses and abuses everyone around him and is now paying the cost. I wish he'd move far, far away so we never have to hear about him again.
I find it interesting how different peoples perceptions are. I like CC bacon, and have 1 or 2 lbs in the freezer.
As to the quality of food, I can't speak for CC, but I think the point of the classes was teaching average people techniques that they could reproduce in their homes. I'm not surprised that a trained professional in the industry for 20+ years didn't take much away from them. I don't think the typical class was geared to that audience, at least the ones I took weren't.
I can't speak to his skills when he personally prepared the whole meal as I never was a part of the underground restaurant scene. But, taking 10 people with widely divergent backgrounds, putting them in a different kitchen from their own, and having them produce the meal under direction isn't going to yield chef results.
I'm aware that there are some people who are very upset at how they've been treated by CC, and if I had the experiences they describe I'd be upset too. I can only say that my experience was positive, and I do know that classes at CC made me a more confident home cook, and demystified several ethnic cuisines that I never would have attempted on my own.
And underground restaurants may be exciting, but my beef has nothing to do with health violations. It has to do with skirting city and state taxes and employment codes. If you're that good, bone up and do it right. Otherwise, you're a selfish punk-ass jerk.
And for you losers who support this clown don't go crying to the health department when your doubled over after eating his crappy, contaminated food.
Instead of lamenting idiots who steal word space from the local press, we should all try supporting existing purveyors who kick ass, like a writer above mentioned Cascioppo Brothers, Bob's down in Columbia city, Charlie at Zoe's meats, or the good folks at the Puget sound meat producers co-op, who are doing all their legwork in order to sell great pigs, and soon great beef.
Good riddance Gabe, take your overpriced pork, your vacuum sealer, your asinine t-shirts, and head out.
Kim T.
I know for a FACT that numerous trained chefs who cooked for Gypsy REFUSED to work in the Culinary Communion provided location because of sanitary concerns. What does it tell you when numerous trained chefs refuse to use a facility that your "trained chef" uses everyday. BTW, Gabe still owes thousands of dollars to many of these chefs.
i was going to work here until the official shut down, and i got to sit with gabe and shoot the shit. after five minutes i knew that i would i love to work with this guy. he is a brilliant man with great ideas. gabe if you do ever read this i hope find a way to make it happen! bring the butchers back!!! best of luck to you and your family. ~nick de
He had nine or at times more under his employ, plus his family...that is a lot of lives to play with. You can stand up to the man by being legal and make your profit inside the bureaucracy, you can even work to change the laws inside legal parameters. But you can't break the law, then lie to the law, have the law shut you down, then expect to be Robin Hood. This was no .org, giving to the poor robbing from the rich was not the motto... perhaps the latter half was.
Gabe is a liar, cheat and moron. You drank the Koolaid and I promise, if you work for him, you will be burned.
I drank the coolaid and loved it. If, and I hope when, Gabe comes back, I'll drink more. It's the best tasting coolaid around.
In an ideal world, Gabe will be back with CC, the Swinery, Vagabond, and more cool ideas but will add a business partner strong willed enough to keep him on the path. It'll be a narrow line to walk on. What Gabe's visions needed to be was exactly what they were...just permitted. It'll take a majority owner other than Gabe to make that happen.
I took several CC classes and the only sick I ever got was from gorging myself with all the tasty food. I often felt a crane would be needed to get me out the door.
I had other dinners Gabe prepared. Some I liked, some I didn't. What he did for me was expand what I was willing to try. He opened my eyes to new foods and new ways of preparing old ones. I will never ever eat pork belly again, yuk. But blood sausage, hell yeah!
I miss his bacon, his classes, his stories, and his energy. I hope he's back soon!
Again - there were people who tried to stop him. He ignored them and forged ahead with his illegal activities. Then he turns on the charm and tries to fool everyone into believing that he's the victim.
He's done. Won't be back. Sorry.
I attended the Culinary Institute of America with Gabe, was in the same class as him, same block & group(any CIA grads will understand what a block is) and I can say the negative comments in this thread are totally consistent with the Gabe I knew at the CIA from 1998-1999. There is a term for a cook of his caliber: HACK. The guy was a pure hack, a shoe-maker (no disrespect intended to the noble cobblers of the world). The chefs instructors would grill his ass for being such an incompetent student, and when his charm did not work he would whine and cry about being a victim. This is the kind of chef that tarnishes the CIA's reputation. He is not only screwing his clients, employees and family, he is screwing anyone who calls the CIA their alma mater. I am contacting alumni affairs to see if any action can be taken to distance our school from this hack.
I have a question: where is that 400#'s of pork belly in boxes from? Gabe is claiming to be local and sustainable and all the other feel good catchy terms, but I want to know how he procured 400#'s of locally raised sustainable pork belly? You know how many pigs that is? BS, I bet those boxes say Hormel or Swift or Tyson on them. Just another scam.
Be wary, I would not trust his curing procedures. This man lacks integrity. I can't believe I was browsing Seattle restaurants to visit for a business trip I am taking and came across old Gabe, still a silver tongue devil. Yeah, the guy is charming, he has some charisma, he can talk... but he sure as hell is not a true professional chef, he is a hack. Gabe could never handle the line, he was a slob, it is not surprising to see that he had to become a con man to compensate for the fact that his cooking skills were shit. THere is a difference between a hack that can charm some novice cooks and a professional chef.
P.S. You make the BEST bacon I have ever eaten!