Food & Drink Dec 3, 2009 at 4:00 am

Goodness and Gore at the International District's New Vegan Chain

Are you ready for the noble transition? Kelly O

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1
Are the waiters and waitresses as spaced out as they are at the resto in my town? Great food (at mine) but it's a weird cult that scares my Vietnamese friends, who avoid the place in fear of indoctrination sessions in a back room. They used to play one song over and over again on a loop.
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OMG there's one of these called veggie era by the school i went to and it was SOOOO GOOD. i'm going tomorrow and getting orange chicken. i hope they have that! the supreme master stuff is odd, but the food is delicious.
3
I liked the former incarnation of this place (Vegan Garden, same people). The new menu is even heavier on the Americanized fake meats, instead of making good Vietnamese food. I mostly find Supreme Master TV to be supremely campy and fun, but I've never seen the slaughterhouse footage, that is horrific. To me, the biggest downer about this place is they really don't do anything good with um, you know, vegetables - they are mostly just steamed or lightly stir fried with bland sauces. The soups are often pretty good, especially if you ask which ones are spicy.
4
What's the address?
5
that place was pretty good, but the tv brainwashed me...
6
too much soy.
7
I've been waiting for this place to reopen. Finally. I can get their delicious noodle/veggie bowl with cinnamon-scented fake meat. Don't knock it 'til you try it.

PS Sorry about your meal with carnage playing in the background. They should really turn the supreme master off sometimes.
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@7 - the supreme master is everwhere, including inside of the fortune cookies! but, i agree, yum.
9
Vegan Garden was decent, I think food at Moonlight Cafe has a better kick and your carnivore buddies can order from their very own meat-menu. The Supreme Master stuff was pretty annoying and distracting so I used to sit with my back to the screen..
10
They have supreme master restaurants here in Mongolia (and even in the random rural mongolia area I was in) that redo mongolian food with soy meat. It's amazing as well as stupefying that the main "foreign" restaurant in my provincial center was vegan mongolian food...
11
Do they have any veggie dim-sum?
Vegan Bistro used to make some awesome stuff but haven't been able to find any since they closed.
12
"Not using MSG is admirable..."

Ahem:

"Even now, after 'Chinese restaurant syndrome' has been thoroughly debunked (virtually all studies since [1968] confirm that monosodium glutamate in normal concentrations has no effect on the overwhelming majority of people), the ingredient has a stigma that will not go away." - nytimes

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/05/dining…

http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/…
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@11 I don't think they do dim sum. NW Tofu has *some* vegetarian dim sum.
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I was pretty disappointed when I went soon after they reopened as Loving Hut. I went with friends who had been big fans of Vegan Garden, and our hopes were soon dashed by the mediocre food. The atmosphere is lovely and the Supreme Master doesn't bother me a bit - they had it in the Vegan Garden too. But the food was sooooo disappointing! We shared almost the exact same menu as David Schmader did the second time and felt the exact same way. The Golden Nuggets were dismal and the Curry was very sad. Even our dessert was bad. All they had that day was mint chocolate ice cream and it appeared to have been frozen and thawed and refrozen with the telltale ice crystals all over it. It was flavorless and the texture was all wrong. It should not have been served. We all agreed that the food was bad enough that none of us wanted to give them even a second chance, which is too bad since vegan restaurants are hard to come by. If other posters have had different experiences at other locations, maybe this location needs to take some lessons elsewhere.
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@12 - Don't get your medicine from the newspapers or claim something is "thoroughly debunked" because you read it there... lol...

Case in point, an abstract from a study done this year -->

Cephalalgia. 2009 Apr 28. [Epub ahead of print]
Effect of systemic monosodium glutamate (MSG) on headache and pericranial muscle sensitivity.

Baad-Hansen L, Cairns BE, Ernberg M, Svensson P.

Department of Clinical Oral Physiology, School of Dentistry, University of Aarhus, Aarhus, Denmark.

Baad-Hansen L, Cairns BE, Ernberg M & Svensson P. Effect of systemic monosodium glutamate (MSG) on headache and pericranial muscle sensitivity. Cephalalgia 2009. London. ISSN 0333-1024We conducted a double-blinded, placebo-controlled, crossover study to investigate the occurrence of adverse effects such as headache as well as pain and mechanical sensitivity in pericranial muscles after oral administration of monosodium glutamate (MSG). In three sessions, 14 healthy men drank sugar-free soda that contained either MSG (75 or 150 mg/kg) or NaCl (24 mg/kg, placebo). Plasma glutamate level, pain, pressure pain thresholds and tolerance levels, blood pressure (BP), heart rate and reported adverse effects were assessed for 2 h. No muscle pain or robust changes in mechanical sensitivity were detected, but there was a significant increase in reports of headache and subjectively reported pericranial muscle tenderness after MSG. Systolic BP was elevated in the high MSG session compared with low MSG and placebo. These findings add new information to the concept of MSG headache and craniofacial pain sensitivity.

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