If one of these deranged lunatics ever harms any of my loved ones, it's the gun dealers, the gun manufacturers, and the politicians that shoved machine guns into their hands that are gonna need the twits and prayers.

But the only way we're gonna do that is if we don't have a situation in which anything that is proposed is viewed as some tyrannical destruction of the Second Amendment. And that's how, too often, the issue gets framed.

Indeed it does. A lot of Second Amendment folks view any proposal as a step on the way to the destruction of the Second. They bring up the slippery-slope bogeyman: if you regulate this, you're going to eventually want to regulate that and once you regulate that, you'll want to ban this and on and on and on until all guns are outlawed. Whether they really believe that or not, I don't know but that's one of their major arguments against what others view as reasonable regulation.

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And yet for some reason, you never hear them calling for repeal of the National Firearms Act of 1934.

When this President leaves office, there is going to be a huge hole left in this country that won't be filled any time soon, if ever. We haven't lived up to the good human being that he is.

@1 They're NOT machine guns.

I like gun control, but not in the form that is suggested here. The idea that the FBI can arbitrarily restrict a person's right to fly or right to own a gun is abhorent. If you want to place restrictions on ISIL sympathizers, there needs to be a standard of evidence, a court review, and a chance for the person to defend themselves and appeal the restriction.

I'm going to skip watching Obama deplore another mass shooting and just post this article about how, since Australia banned assault weapons in 1996, there hasn't been a single mass shooting since 1996.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/world/…

We can do this, state by state. Maybe WA can step up and lead the way.

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Nobody gives a flying fuck about semantics - a gun that sprays large quantities of bullets without requiring reload is a weapon of mass destruction, just as is one that sprays large quantities of bullets with a single trigger-pull. AR-style assault rifles have only one purpose - and it's not hunting, as any real hunter would laugh at the very notion of trying to use one on game animals (unless one's objective is to riddle prey with more holes than a cheese-grater) - it's to "deliver maximum carnage with extreme efficiency", period.

Another reason the republicans will lose another election.