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(On a side note, as much as I enjoy listening to my iPods on the noisy-ass buses, the line " ...I now have over 2,500 songs on my iTunes at work, but they don't seem like they're mine so much as my computer's" rings entirely true. They're not quite a bird in the hand, are they? I always thought it was just about the song, not the format, and you're mature enough to defend that concept against collecting ... but we know what we feel.
What have the police said ?
I know a wounded nurse who hired a private dick and some thugs to try and find your vinyl and when that failed offered to try and replenish your collection. You sound very hurt on a lot of levels. I hope your friends and fans continue support and comfort you.
With all my heart. L
Basically, a large portion of 30 years of rare and not-so-rare music collecting is gone (after dragging that shit around with me on many moves to many locations. Sad, but oddly liberating. I still miss my music, but I keep what's left on hard drive (backed up, of course). I'm too old now to schlep that stuff around with everywhere life takes me.
I've a feeling that Dave will come to that point, too, in a few years.
And yeah forget karma- GO AFTER THOSE BASTARDS. Seattle's got your back.
Or, wait until next May when all the rummage sales by all the cakensniffing hipster yuppies on CH are desperately trying to make their mortgages and rent. Good times for collectors ahead!
It hurts, especially when one considers how much cash one is out in replacing (if one can) all of those recordings, but it gets better with time. Especially considering that most anything is better than 8' of water in your home.
I've probably bought some of your stuff over the last few months. Thanks!
Also, thanks to everyone who's wished me well, offered sympathy, etc. It means a lot.
Hope you find your remedy, man.
6 months later my mom died and I had to move back to the Twin Cities. I went to my friend's house to pick up all my boxes. Naturally I had no idea how many boxes they had stored for me, I hadn't kept inventory, but it didn't take long to find out half my LP collection was gone. I contacted her family and her mother said I had picked up everything they had. Months later when I friend moved back and I contineud my questioning, it was discovered her younger brother had sold my LPs at record stores - back when there were so many stores which would buy them. Slowly, I replaced some of my collection and years later I was still doing that when CDs came out so I was replacing many items in the CD format. Of course many of the LPs had gone out of print. One LP I can remember is Greg Brown/DIck Pinney's first album. I always remembered there was one song on that album I loved. It was never released on CD because Brown hated it and I don't think the LP was in print long. I started looking for it on ebay but it was going for hundreds of dollars. I finally got one in poor condition at a cheap price and converted it to CD. A couple years later I sold it on ebay for a higher price and donated 100% of the profits to elephants.com.
I've never let go of my anger and disappointment of thinking of that kid and him selling off box by box of my records. I wonder if he would have sold them all eventually. Now I can't remember if there were any LPs I didn't get replaced as my music taste changed a bit and also I couldn't recall the LPs I had as there were so many and I didn't have a list. I can't think of that kid and his family with good thoughts. Nowadays I have suddenly become a recovering packrat and I have lost all my sentimentality, which means I'm giving away or throwing my LPs. If I have them on CD or convert them, away they go. LPs given to me which I never liked, gone. Others it's harder to say goodbe to, especially to the wonderful cover graphics which the CDs lack, but my goal is to be rid of them all someday. I used to write my name on the LPs along with the date I bought them. So if anyone sees "Cindy Martin" written on an LP...
It's a lesson in loss. It's bad but also good. It lets me accept death a little bit--because something I'd wanted to hold on to has already escaped me. Nothing is permanent.
And who knows -- all or part of your missing collection may yet show up, espeically if you can figure out a way to put some legal heat on the moving company.
Cheers,
Bill Tilland
Music is one of the things that makes life worth living.
My heart goes out to you.
Good luck!
First. Digital music does not need to be sampled the same way that CDs are.
Second, to think of MP3s as the best digital format is simply stupid. WAV contains the actual sounds, FLAC (and others) are lossless. So nearly all of those uploads at the moment to the web are crap (at least Trent Reznor seems to have a clue).
Third, if the record companies took digital seriously, you wouldn't *have to* rip off the artists. If you're not a 19-year-old dickhead, you prefer to pay *reasonable* sums for your unencumbered music.
Finally, if you want to carry around a bit of cardboard that can disintegrate or go up in flames at any time, fine. I'd rather have the actual *music*. Not to mention the fact that the digital format is not being fully used at present - we've barely got album art and lyrics. How about a full multimedia schwag with images, lyrics, posters to print, bios...? It's not as if the technology doesn't exist.
There is also www.movingscam.com which may be able to help with advice.
Also, see if Angieslist.com has a neighborhood in your area. If you are a member, they will act on your behalf to resolve service issues that you experience.
Best wishes for a less negative outcome.
"But I don't know any lawyers in Los Angeles"
*THAT* is your excuse? What, did you secretly order a hit on them or something? I honestly doubt that with the amount of crap you've had to put up with, that you *really* just let it drop. Noone is that spineless.
And I just filed a complaint with FMCSA.
Ultimately, it's not a matter of spinelessness; it's more of a financial issue.
The lowlifes that moved me stole audio equipment by opening the bottom of the boxes and resealing them, then brought them into the house empty and put the boxes in a pile...as if I wouldn't find out!?! I ripped BEKINS a new one big time and got all I had lost back money wise and more.
SHOW THEM NO MERCY!
You have my most heartfelt condolences. Trust me if that was me they would not still be walking.
You should get legal advice - sue them for every last penny.
However, all this "vinyl is the ultimate music format" & "I respect you more for owning things rather than actually appreciating the music" stuff is very shallow and silly. I know vinyl purism is almost a religion now, but come on...
This totally suuuuuucks. I wish you luck in re-finding all the rare items you lost.
You really should be doing more about this. They have all the records (sorry) of who moved what. Just follow the chain of names and bear in mind that much of what they tell you will be a lie. Don't stop until you get what you want.
SHOW THEM NO MERCY!
I urge you not to give up on this. Pursue those MFer's to the ends of the earth! As you mention, it was not only your personal collection but a precious resource for the community and even posterity.
How about a PayPal fund for Dave's legal expenses? If every Stranger reader donated even $1....little enough payback for all the goodness the Stranger brings us each and every week. C'mon, ppl !
(Written by one who is attempting to jettison as many material objects as possible to "lighten the journey".)
....police, border stations, FBI, all want any information they can get regarding crimes.... pieces are more likely to fall together if all involved have seen what you wrote.... you gotta do your part to assist the next victims....
I'm not sure where to start, but authorities usually ask, "Have you contacted ....?" Cosa Mesa (or whoever) Police should probably be first.
Also: the local used bins have been going my way lately.
Also also: let me know if you need a grip of boring ass 90s hiphop singles, any weak shit, and/or generally TEPID records...looking to lose half these thanks.
Thanks to some of my friends, I have started to rebuild my collection. Yes, there are precious, one of a kind discs that can never be replaced, but I'm trying to look at it with a fresh perspective. I've now been give the opportunity to create the ultimate, super collection. I will replace the blues, the punk, the classic rock and yes, I will replace Prince. I will replace Morrisey but not Alanis Morissette.
Regardless of this new perspective, there are days when I still imagine that dick kicking back with a Miller Lite and sorting through the soundtrack of my life. And then I remember that karma is a bitch. Those bastards will pay for their incompetence. Maybe Adam's plan to seek refuge in Canada will be foiled and he will be forced to listen to nothing but Celine Dion for the rest of his days.
One can dream...
oh well
If you are worried about 1's and 0's not having as "warm a sound" or some other bs you had better ditch your cd's because they are all digital too.
I've been giving the movers a chance to retrieve the lost goods (as they promised they would), but my patience has run out and I'm now seeking legal recourse.
This is the most pathetic thing I have ever read. Hipster materialism at its finest! Do you honestly expect anyone to care about you getting a bunch of stuff stolen? It happens all the time buddy.
You needed to take savage, rip-roaring action immediately.
You needed to make their lives hell until they would rather commit suicide than talk to you on the phone.
You needed to make a barrage of calls and letters to all the people in their circle.
Too late now.
All you can hope for is $$$ compensation and you can be glad that you are freed from the burden of physical goods.
my condolences.
julian calero
I love the Internet! See you in the Pink Palace!
sorry.
So, I bite the bullet & say that at the very least, considering I had to move no matter what, that I would agree to insure them for an agreed value........... "No, sorry we can't do that, we will only try to replace them".......... *ROAAAAAR!!*
In the 2 weeks it took for my records to make it back, I was waking up in a cold sweat panicing. It was a very stressfull & sleepless time for me to say the least.
Now I don't mean to rain on your progress, but, in my opinion, you are trying to trick yourself into "letting go". Just like if you lose a girlfriend you really love, and you try to block it out and not deal with it. In reality, people like us can't change out souls that have been built over, in your case, almost 30 years.
It's like they say, it takes half as long to get over someone, as the time you were together. In your case, 15 years...
Quick question, have you thought of employing a private investigating firm to look into it for you? Or lodge it with the authorities? It does sound criminal to me.
Much of the moving industry appears to be as corrupt as the worst government you can imagine.
http://www.123movers.com/moving_service.…
http://www.mustrad.org.uk/enth47.htm
And I don't really feel bad about it. I, too, collected vinyl. Not as a DJ. But I'd started feeling like I was chained by it. I couldn't really go anywhere without wondering how I could get it to where I was. FInally, I said "fuck it."
I have enough crap now after 3 years. I will get rid of that stuff in a heartbeat. All I care about is my cat, my husband, and MAYBE a small yet valuable collection of antique Christmas ornaments.
We can't all be perfect.
trconnection.com/
Lost your M Frog, I may not sleep tonight
What percentage of their record collections do people with Massive Record Collections return to, I wonder? A while back I realised that I was accumulating Stuff at an alarming rate and that I'd be better off without the physical trappings, taking advantage of modern rental models instead. (Certainly it seems insane to me that anyone would own shelves and shelves of popular DVDs, but I know people who do.) The John-Cusack-in-High-Fidelity living space crammed with physical music is very cool, but I think it's superficially cool - in the long run I'd rather have the sum of human artistic endeavor stored in a database the size of Switzerland, available to anyone for download at the touch of a computer key.
"I crave the totems that announce to my visitors (and the world) that my taste is impeccable."
Fuck. You. You absolutely deserve what happened to you AND MORE because while you're crying about your SUPER RARE AND REALLY REALLY AUTHENTIC records, people around the world were being gang-raped by soldiers in front of their families... Among other things.
I truly hope worse things than this continue to happen to you until you gain some fucking perspective.
I don't know you but my sympathies are with you.
I feel for you Dave.
(in no way related to this article, I am way more hip than that)
I was the CJ at a large New Years party and my 80 gig Ipod was stolen. I dont drive, so my bus rides across town are now painfully long and unpleasant.
My music collection (8,000-ish songs) is virtually all digital at this point, and thus theoretically easily replaceable, and I'd STILL be heartbroken to lose it. I can't even imagine having my collection be on vinyl and then having a bunch of it be *gone* all of a sudden. That's just nauseating.
Sorry, man.
I've traveled the world now and don't spend most of my time collecting objects I know will never make me happy. I don't think one can ever really own things anyway in a sense. It's more like you just get to spend time being around them and worst yet, when you define yourself and your value by them, they end up owning you.
I talked to a couple of lawyers who refused the case. They said that an interstate moving and trucking theft case was near impossible to win. They both told me to file an insurance claim and call it a lesson learned.
I'm still not sure what the lesson to be learned is but my advice to anyone moving precious cargo is to only use the absolute *best* moving company with the squeakiest clean reputation you can find. It just doesn't pay to shop around based on price...