White Man's Book Does Justice to Black Power Music

Pat Thomas's Listen, Whitey! Is History at Its Grooviest

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What's really interesting is that Thomas seems to have noticed that we're not actually racists; that we have excellent factual and logical reasons for believing everything we believe. Unfortunately, he starts from obviously false assumptions (like "white people are not, in fact, superior to blacks"), so he finds "contradictions" (with reality). Thus he is unable to fully wrap his head around the idea that the "racists" might be completely right. About everything. Hence the term "quasi-intellectual" and a sarcastic science. (Did you even try to understand my website?)

Thomas should know that we have indeed "come a long way" — a long way toward marginalizing, denigrating and destroying the white majority of this country, the very people who keep it functioning like a first-world civilized society, not a black or brown third-world hellhole. We've come so far now that the inevitable backlash by whites is bound to be spectacular. No, this doesn't end in flyers.

"Wacky shit," indeed.
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@1 - Go troll somewhere else, Captain Racism.
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@2 - He's directly mentioned and quoted in the article. You can't get more on-topic and less trolling than that! That's like if Pat Thomas came here and posted a comment and you told him to troll somewhere else.

"(Groth wanted the book to be called Wake Up, N******, ... but Thomas ... convinced him to go with a less inflammatory title [Wake Up Whitey].)"

How is that a less inflamatory title?? Black people commit hate crimes at a much higher rate than white people do (just like they do with every other crime). And racial slurs like that against white people are the cause of events like "Beat Whitey Night" in Iowa http://www.google.com/search?q=beat+whit…

"Racism notwithstanding, Listen, Whitey! is garnering serious media attention..."
Can you honestly not see the absurd hypocrisy in the start of that sentence?
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chico herbison is awesome.
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@3 - Go troll somewhere else, Captain Sockpuppet for Racism.
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crime rate facts are "quasi-intellectual"? facts are racist? books that call people "whitey" are cool? where's Orwell when we need him!
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Lol, what? We've had "White Guilt" shoved down our throats for years and they're still teaching it to innocent children in schools. Sad.

What did 'I' do? Do I keep black man down? Do I oppress Jews or Hispanics? No! Please leave me alone and stop accusing all White people of racism all the time.

My father didn't do anything, my grandfather didn't do anything and my great-grandfather never even saw a black person until he came to the US in 1905. So what does my family have to do with slavery and oppression yet I'm still somehow accused of it every day by the media, or by the professors in my university and even by our government now.

Please leave me alone and stop shoving lies down my throat and false accusation against my peers and I.
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'The Black Power movement lost steam in the mid 1970s, Thomas says, largely due to J. Edgar Hoover's COINTELPRO: "Basically a counterintelligence program against radical movements. You gotta remember, the FBI hates commies. Hoover was convinced that not only the Black Panthers but Martin Luther King Jr. were getting money from the Soviet Union and Red China."'

No, Black Power is stronger than ever. These days armed Black Panthers stand outside polling booths to intimidate white voters with the full support of the "Justice" Department and Eric "My People" Holder.

The FBI may have hated commies then (don't forget the context, those were the days where we came very close to nuclear apocalypse from them). But there has been a complete 180 since then. The old guard have all been replaced by hippy liberal activists at all levels of state, educational, and media power. Now they keep the record of Martin Luther King sealed so the embarassing truth will never see the light of day.

Hoover's theory was plausible. But the only part I can prove is that the Black Panthers were selling Mao Tse Tung's Little Red Book to gullible white liberals as a fundraiser.
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i like how all the commenters, the writer and subject of this article totally skirted around white privilege. yeah, no black people give a fuck about our history because we don't have 10 grand to blow on records. my b.
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"What's interesting about it is it's not vehement hate,"... I wish I could return the compliment, but the black power movement, and anti-racism activists, are all about vehement hate, violence, and censorship.

"It's couched in this quasi-intellectual thing,"... there's nothing "quasi-" about it. They have intellectual arguments, you do not. Compare their commenters with yours and the difference is very clear.

"like whites are superior to blacks"... In terms of crime, on average they are. That's an objective statistical fact. In terms of academic performance, they are too. That's another objective statistical fact. Both those undeniable facts are extremely relevent to social policy.

Black people are superior in terms of running fast, and resistance to osteoporosis, skin cancer, and malaria. Unfortunately their superorities aren't relevant outside Africa.

"it's been proven by science."... It has been. The crime leaflet was actually proven by statistics, but there is also proof of it through science. Science shows crime tendencies are largely genetic. And that black people and white people come from different gene pools that evolved seperately for tens of thousands of years to suit different environments.
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"'February is Black History Month, why do they need that?'"... obviously they only need it because black people's achievements in actual history are so hard to find, that black history would otherwise never get noticed.

"Then sarcastically saying, 'Well, they picked the shortest month, so obviously that's all they're worthy of.'"

If you actually read the article Thomas is referring to (http://unamusementpark.com/2012/02/black…) you will notice that while it is heavy on sarcastic humor, it as actually a very long and detailed look at why black people have a lot less than a month of history worthy of celebrating. And how most of that history is made up.

And one of the commenters there pointed out that the more successful of their celebrated "heroes", like Dr. Daniel Hale Williams and Dr. Charles Drew, are as white as snow (do a Google image search).

The article also has cute kittens.
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"i like how all the commenters, the writer and subject of this article totally skirted around white privilege."

That's because white privilege is genetic. The genes for planning ahead, self-control, saving for the winter, looking after your children, monogamy, and building things, only evolved in harsh winter climates where they were needed. Those genes are what make white people (and North East Asians) successful. White people would like to share that privilege with other races, but they can't do that until they perfect genetic engineering. All their attempts to share the privilege some other way have failed spectacularly.

"yeah, no black people give a f*** about our history because we don't have 10 grand to blow on records."

No, black people usually don't care about their history, because: 1. Their history is embarassingly bad, destructive, and full of violent thugs (such as the Black Power movement). 2. They rarely care about studying and learning anything. 3. They have high present-time orientation. 4. They don't feel white guilt or the need to demonstrate their moral superiority like white people do.

The reason they don't usually have $10,000 to spend on research is because without the white privilige of useful genes, they have few marketable skills to make money from, and often no financial sense to spend money wisely or save it.

If you're a Jamaican Supremacist, how do you explain that most people (including you) don't want to live around Jamaicans or in Jamaica? And why Jamaicans are so unsuccessful compared to other races?
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"That's because white privilege is genetic."

So true.

You know, I think the reason why the disingenuous white liberals (DWLs) aren't out in force this time is because they've realized they have no counterarguments. Nothing, literally nothing against our facts and reasoning. I expect they're more than a little embarrassed by the constant shrieking about "trolls" and "white supremacists" and have started to realize the wisdom of that old saying: "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

Meanwhile, blacks are still more criminal than whites, and no one has even attempted to refute this simple fact.
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Even if you adjust for relative poverty black criminality is off the charts. It's obviously inherant. Look at Haiti look at Detriot. Look at Tottenham look at Rwanda. Look at any place that they run and the levels of murder and rape are astronomically high. The only places that are peaceful like Bahamas or Bermuda
are administered still by quasi colonial authorities. I don't understand why a person lucky enough to live in Seattle would wish the scourge upon their own city.
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Quick follow up on crime rates. That is of course, if you think being at the bottom of the economic pile is an accident in the first place--Adjusting for poverty levels. Even if youadjust for a lifetime of poor decisions, sullen contempt for accomplishment the criminality is
exponentially higher among blacks.
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here's what black power/entitlement did in the 1960's: black illegitimacy rates were always around 30% until the 1960's when they shot up to over 70%, where they remain today.
any poverty-crime link is b/c crime & poverty both correlate with IQ.
any achievement gap is due to the IQ gap.
this is well known among legitimate researchers, but you wouldn't know it from the media! i wonder why?
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"Learn Whitey Learn". If I recall correctly was the advice a now prominent black PhD holder gave to an article writer for Life Magazine. The article was about the late 60s riot in Detroit. YT decided very quickly to abandon metro Detroit so that blacks could enjoy absolute autonomy and be free of YT oppression.
The experiment proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that blacks can't cope in a YT free environment. Seattle be warned.
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i'd just like to confuse us all by adding these facts: multiculturalism & obsession with diversity are western-european creations. attempts to minimize western achievement & creativity are western-eurpoean creations. showing understanding of & appreciation for other cultures - western creations! racism: NOT a western creation!
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"in the sense that my book has no agenda"
Your book has a very obvious agenda of promoting and celebrating black violence and threats of violence against the white society that uplifts and supports them.

"There's a book called The Shadow of the Panther by Hugh Pearson. He's black. I don't know him, but it's obvious from reading his book that he decided the Black Panthers were bad guys and he was going to write a detailed but very biased history."

The Black Panthers were bad guys, and it's impossible not to notice that when you're writing a detailed history of them. In general detailed histories are more informative and accurate than informal chats with your friends about their music while ignoring the events. And Black people can get away with telling the truth about Black people, but white people are forced to tell politically correct lies.

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"We've come a long way, but Jesus Christ, man, right here in Seattle, three hours ago, we found out there's still some wacky s*** going on."

You have come a very long way. The president of your white Western country is now a half-Kenyan from Indonesia. The immigration system is now dedicated to supporting non-white invaders, and reducing US Americans to a minority in their own country. And every educational, media, corporate or government institution has uplifting black people and suppressing white people as their primary goal.

But don't forget how you came so far. It wasn't by fixing any of the problems with black people or Mexicans or creating any peace and racial harmony. You succeeded only through violence, intimidation, silencing your critics, and taking over the system.

So it shouldn't suprise you that the statistics about black crime (and other disfunction) are still there, and a few brave intelligent people risk their safety and careers to get the truth out.

The only ways you can stop race realist "wacky s***" from "going on" forever are to actually stop black people from committing so much more crime, to stop black people from performing one standard deviation worse on all academic assesments, to stop black people from being hired and promoted ahead of more qualified people, to stop black people from abusing the welfare system, to stop black people from attacking white people, etc.
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Sealous said, "Look at any place that they run and the levels of murder and rape are astronomically high. The only places that are peaceful like Bahamas or Bermuda."

Have you ever actually looked at the crime rates of both of those countries? Granted Bermuda isn't nearly as bad the Bahamas, but their crime rates are still very high.
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Hey Pat, here's some quasi-intellectualism for you.

In 2010 blacks made up 13.6% of the US population per the 2010 census. Their total numbers were 42,020,743 (including mixed) per the same census. According to the 2010 FBI UCR blacks accounted for 53% of known homicide offenders, or 5,770 of the 10,870 known. Taking all the numbers we've just learned we can conclude that the murder rate per 100,000 people of the black community in the united states is 13.73.

On the other hand in 2010 whites (including hispanics) made up 75.1% of the US population per the same census. Their total numbers were 223,553,265 per the same census. According to the same UCR whites (including hispanic) accounted for 44.6% of the known homicide offenders, or 4,849 of the 10,870 known. When we take these numbers into account we can conclude that the murder rate per 100,000 people of the white (including hispanic) community is 2.16.

Thus it is ultimately concluded that blacks are 6.35x more likely to commit murder than whites (including hispanic). How's that for quasi-intellectualism?
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All these commenters, and all their accounts, all created after Feb. 17th. You guys all on the same white-supremacist mailing list? Or just one racist guy with a bunch of sockpuppet accounts?
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Pithy Name, you're wrong on both accounts. The Stranger linked to unamusementpark.com on an article around Feb 17, word of this eventually got back to said site. Lulz were had.
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You can tell they're different people because they write differently.

"The questioner" never capitalises the start of sentences.

Stephen74's posts don't directly address the content of the article, but more the general theme and feeling of it.

"sealous" has strange line breaks in the middle of sentences and has about one paragraph per post.

"unamusementpark" (aka Unamused) who wrote the flyer and the website this article mentions, writes well and with perfect formatting, but can't resist adding pictures of kittens (or gratuitous french girls or slutty fairies).

And I write lots of long comments directly addressing parts of the article or other comments, but censoring the article's swearing. And I use paragraph breaks and capitals.

David Hollister writes a lot like me, but with lots of precise numbers and dates, rather than my tendency to only remember the general trend of the figures and forget the figures themselves.

"Pithy Name" calls everyone trolls and sockpuppets (incorrectly) to avoid addressing their irrefutable arguments, but knows how to use capitals, unlike danceofdays and jamaican-suppremecist.

"danceofdays" ignored the whole racism angle unlike everyone else.

And lastly, "jamaican-suppremecist" actually addressed our comments (but badly and with no capitals) unlike everyone else, and attacked both sides.

So they are clearly all different people.
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i'd just like to say I write all of Black Power White Power's comments for him. just kidding! i wish i could take credit for them, but then i'd have to learn to hit the dang caps or shift key or whatever:) i'd also have to learn to think more cogently & clearly:) & conversely, to write Mr. P. Name's comments i'd have to attempt the opposite:) cheers, yo!
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"any poverty-crime link is b/c crime & poverty both correlate with IQ."

It's partly that. I think maybe it's also partly other genetic personality characteristics (eg. agression) that cause both crime and poverty, although perhaps only when combined with low IQ.

And of course, crime is one of the main causes of poverty. Businesses don't want to set up in high crime areas, and fail when they do. They don't want to hire criminals either. And the saying "crime doesn't pay" is actually true. I think most drug dealers make less than they would working any honest job.
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Hey Unamused and Co.

Here's a statistical tidbit for you:

Correlation does not equal causality.

Try that on for size, you fucking grouchy racists.
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dancinghobotom, here's one for you.

Blacks from wealthy families (>$100k annual income) score lower on the SATs than whites from the poorest families(<$10k annual income).

According to the stranger blacks have low IQs because of poverty, but that statistic completely contradicts that wouldn't you agree?
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Ah. Mailing list then.
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mr. dancing hobo tom:
true, but: when something causes something else, there will be a correlation between them. we rely on your caveat to note that # of letters in a team name doesn't necessarily create wins, even if we find a correlation between # of letters & team wins (even if the correlation is p < .05 or whatever). it's just another caveat to consider rationally, yo!
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"Correlation does not equal causality.

Try that on for size, you f****** grouchy racists."

Correlation does equal either causality (in unknown direction, and perhaps indirectly), causality from a third factor, or coincidence. Fortunately you can easily calculate the chance of something being a coincidence. And with a large enough sample size, the chance of a coincidence is tiny enough to ignore.

So if you don't think that race causes crime, that means you think that crime causes race, or that something else causes both crime and race, or that it's an amazingly improbable fluke coincidence.

I guess you must be thinking that crime causes race. Maybe I should go out and commit some crime and watch my face change shape, my hair change its texture, my bones change their density, and my skin change colour.
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But don't forget that the reason for the link between race and crime doesn't matter when you are walking down the street and see someone. The link still exists whatever the reason, so you still need to be more careful around black people than you do around white people.
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"The link still exists whatever the reason, so you still need to be more careful around black people than you do around white people."

Absolutely right. Whatever the causes, the stereotypes are true. Racial profiling is rational and therefore good and therefore not "racist" (assuming "racism" is, by definition, bad).

As for the causation of the correlation: since (a) race is statistically the best indicator of violent crime levels in an area, (b) virtually none of this correlation is due to poverty, unemployment, or lack of education, (c) the racial crime gaps persist when you control for socioeconomic factors, and of course (d) blacks (e.g.) are and have been much more criminal than whites (e.g.) everywhere they are found in the world and at all times in recorded history — since all that is true, we're at the point now that one cannot reasonably deny that genetics plays a role.
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Why is that author, along with the general DWL illiterati, are willing to make statements like:

"The other important thing I learned about the Panthers: They weren't anti-white; they were just pro-black."

Where they are differentiating between the two themes?

Yet when it is a white person talking anything even remotely perceived as "pro-white" they are immediately demonized as "anti-black" racists as if the two are synonymous?

That is merely one fallacy of the DWL mindset of which this book's author seems to be afflicted. As well as his use of "Whitey" in the title. Which is dubious, considering if a book were titled "Listen, Blackie" it would elicit howls of racism. Both are coarse.
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Black people are dependent on white people for their survival and progress, whether it's in Africa, Haiti, or the United States. So any movement that wants more for black people always ends up hurting white people.

And the main way to make black people look good is to blame all black people's failures on white people.

And when given more freedom and power, black people frequently use it to attack white people.

So pro-black movements usually end up being anti-white.
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i'd like to point out that the author, pat thomas, kinda looks like dave thomas (from second city tv, more popularly known as 1 of the bob & doug mcKenzie great WHITE north duo:)
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Liberals, leftists, whatever, you want to call them, tend to howl in rage when people bring up Black pathologies, failures, whatever you want to call them.

The general thrust seems to be, "how dare you bring this up?"

Well, we bring it up because leftoids forced the issue. Leftoids constantly bring up Black poverty, and other Black problems, and thrust them under YT's nose. They blame Black poverty, crime, culture, etc., on YT.

Then when YT defends himself by, essentially, saying "we didn't 'break' Blacks - they're made that way," Leftoids say we're evil racist haters.

It's a lot like having a guy born with a gimpy leg dragging you into court for breaking his leg, pointing out to the judge that his he was born with that leg, and having his lawyer howl about your "bigotry." I.e., it's like watching a pack of sociopaths attack you for profit.

If leftoids didn't want YT to point out that Blacks are born "broken," they shouldn't have blamed all Blacks' failings on us. If they didn't want YT defending himself, they shouldn't have dragged him into court with a frivolous lawsuit.

Leftoids, when you find yourself in a hole, the first step is to stop digging; drop the suit.

It should be obvious that leftoids have made "racism" (assault with sharpened facts) against blacks a moral duty for all just men. A just man can no more desert YT under these circumstances than he could our analogous defendant; it's his duty to go into court and testify the defect is congenital.
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Liberals howl in rage when anyone brings up Black pathologies, failures, whatever you want to call them.

The general thrust seems to be, "how dare you bring this up?"

Well, we didn't bring it up. We had no choice but to respond, because leftoids forced the issue. Leftoids constantly bring up Black poverty, and other Black problems, and thrust them under YT's nose. They continually blame these problems on Whites.

Then when Whites defend themselves by, essentially, saying "we didn't 'break' Blacks - they're made that way," Leftoids say we're evil racist haters.

It's a lot like having a guy born with a gimpy leg drag you into court for breaking his leg, pointing out to the judge that his he was born with that leg, and having his lawyer howl about your "bigotry." I.e., it's like watching a pack of sociopaths attack you for profit.

If leftoids didn't want YT to point out that Blacks are born "broken," they shouldn't have blamed all Blacks' failings on us. If they didn't want YT defending himself, they shouldn't have dragged him into court with a frivolous lawsuit.

Leftoids, when you find yourself in a hole, the first step is to stop digging; drop your lawsuit.

It should be obvious that leftoids have made "racism" (assault with sharpened facts) against blacks a moral duty for all just men (not just YT). A just man can no more desert YT under these circumstances than he could our analogous defendant; it's his duty to go into court and testify the defect is congenital.

P.S., "correlation is not causation" isn't really saying much. If every fifth little green men from Mars pulls out his phaser and disintegrates a human for no apparent reason, nobody's going to care much if his green skin is "causing" the behavior; the green skin simply serves as a warning.
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Who the fuck are these idiots? The fact that this stuff happens on a message board for a supposedly urban publication is what makes Seattle a racist backwater that drives "transplants" like myself crazy. Grow the fuck up. Go back to masturbating in your mom's basement racist hatemongers.
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Just imagine the one guy sitting at home coming up with different writing styles for all his various online racist personalities. Its comedy gold if you just sit back and enjoy it instead of taking the content seriously.

I especially liked his deep thoughts on the nature of correlations. Today I learned, nazis have a poor grasp of elementary statistics.