Wow. Pitiful.

Yep, the Chopp "tunnel in the sky" could well become reality if we don't come together with an alternative that works for as many people as possible. Even the evil car people.

Imagine coming in on a ferry every day and facing a Berlin Wall of empty retail and office space that was built and never fleshed out. Empty graffiti strewn storefronts on Broadway and University Way are bad enough.

Face it, the surface option screws over a lot of people who, directly and indirectly, depend on the viaduct. These people will vote for anything other than the surface plan, including Chopp's plan if that's their only alternative.

The only way to unify opposition against Chopp's plan is for the surface zealots to throw these people a bone and open their minds to the tunnel.

If that doesn't happen, it's a total crapshoot as to which option, if any, will ultimately be built.

You all act like you actually get a vote on this.

News flash - you don't.

It will be decided at the state legislature and then we'll qualify for double match federal funds from the Obama Rebuilding America Infrastructure plan.

Which, quite frankly, is why the tunnel options are dead dead dead - they can't be completed in time for the double match of fed dollars, and everyone knows it.

It seems obvious that WsDOT only intends to build the elevated replacement, to hell with Blue Seattle's Waterfront. What's even more bizarre it SDOT's apparent cooperation toward that end.

SDOT chief Grace Crunican left a poor record on inner-city highway planning as ODOT chief, making conscious effort to downgrade pedestrian mobility.

Every single surface design for Alaskan Way is ridiculous. From putting the streetcar in the middle of the wide plaza, the wide plaza itself, putting bicyclers in painted lanes in traffic, the excessive number stoplights, and stoplights at points which are obvious hazards, Grace Crunican is either a monstrously incompetent failure or a success at making surface options impossible.

I believe the Lidded Trench, Scenario 'H' is the best option. It's the least expensive tunnel technology. Its ventilator openings make a fine median for pedestrian crossing. That said, it should be located closer to the Seawall.

The wide plaza isn't a good idea. The Waterfront District economy cannot function with too little road access (separate from Alaskan Way) and surface parking. It's likely the plaza would be converted to several parking lots. Oh yes it would.

Early designs showed a frontage road with surface parking on the east side. This should be remain an option. People, you're being messed with by powerful business interests in control of transportation planning departments. Erika Barnett is one of them.

Thanks for sharing the view from Portland, Wells.

There is a lot of incompetency going on up here in Seattle. But it's not coming out of SDOT or the Mayor's office.

The road to hell is always paved to Olympia.

I'AM SOOOOOOOOO SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT THIS ALASKAN WAY VIADUCT ISSUE I CAN'T STAND IT ANY MORE. PEOPLE "WAKE UP", OF COURSE THERE GOING TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON THIS DEAD HORSE ISSUE ALTHOUGH NOT RIGHT, $250.000 NOW AND THEN ANOTHER $250.000 LATER, SO ON AND SO ON.NO MATTER WHAT IS SAID, WRITTEN, OR TALKED ABOUT, NO ONE IS HAPPY WITH ANYTHING THAT ANYONE COMES UP WITH.SO JUST SHUT THE HELL UP AND HANG ON FOR THE "LONG RIDE" BECAUSE SOONER OR LATER REGUARDLESS HOW MUCH MONEY IS SPENT,IT " WILL " COME.

Howdy everyone,

Here's an idea. Let's say that we are in a liquidity trap and Obama decides to plow money (a la Keynes) into massive capital projects. What else is he going to do with another $800 billion.

Suddenly the tunnel makes sense and isn't so expensive. Especially if the Fed starts printing more money. Hell, I'll grab a shovel and start digging for $30 an hour.

The exchange is NO SURFACE replacement. All the cars go in the tunnel. And yes it will be clogged and worthless for traffic in 10 years. Another win.

Let's revive the tunnel option with NO SURFACE.

Grab a freakin' shovel! Let's start digging for America's future.

I heard they are going to replace the viaduct with an basketball arena to lure back the OKC Thunder.

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Only one person is keeping talk of Chopp's wall alive, and that is the ignorant, incompetent twat named Erica C. Barnett.

Disgusting. We can not have a cement wall between our core and the bay.

A major city with effectively two lanes of freeway to pass through it's heart is an absurd idea. Tearing down the viaduct in favor of pushing more traffic onto surface streets is equally absurd. We need to build a big-ass elevated replacement. End of story.

Ride your bike somewhere else.