News Jun 11, 2009 at 4:00 am

A Capitol Hill Man Claims Military Injustice

No dope in his ass, and not AWOL either. Kelly O

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1
.... well .... the paper work got fucked up

whole story, start and end of story

zzz
2
Wow Ace, you're pretty jaded. Would you summarize your life as "well, condom broke, start, end of story. Whatever...."

Here's a real person who was kidnapped by the military, and now is being sent a bill for the plane ride? That's messed up.

3
Yet another shining example of how the Military Industrial Complex -- just like the war-on-drugs Law Enforcement Industrial Complex -- is out of control.

What happened to Chris Parks is outrageous. He deserves an official apology & financial compensation for the time he was illegally detained.

Just when I thought America was on the right track again...
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Yet another shining example of how the Military Industrial Complex -- just like the war-on-drugs Law Enforcement Industrial Complex -- is out of control.

What happened to Chris Parks is outrageous. He deserves an official apology & financial compensation for the time he was illegally detained.

Just when I thought America was on the right track again...
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Usually these deserter stories sound pretty fake to me - some knucklehead blaming the system for his own mistakes. The guy is never wrong, everyone else is screwed up, he's special, yadda yadda yadds.

This story actually rings true. It seems plausible that he could be far enough along in the induction process that paperwork just began automatically getting generated.

All's well that ends well, I guess.
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Hello,

People in this situation are not all making it up.
Through my contacts at the GI Rights Hotline I have seen this kind of thing happen before. Often the recruiter has assured the person that things are taken care of when in fact the paperwork hasn't been completed and years later it catches up with the person. Sometimes the recruiter even knows the person could get screwed. Anyone concerned that they might be in a similar situation could contact the GI RightsHotline for free information at 877-447-4487.

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Hello,

People in this situation are not all making it up.
Through my contacts at the GI Rights Hotline I have seen this kind of thing happen before. Often the recruiter has assured the person that things are taken care of when in fact the paperwork hasn't been completed and years later it catches up with the person. Sometimes the recruiter even knows the person could get screwed. Anyone concerned that they might be in a similar situation could contact the GI RightsHotline for free information at 877-447-4487.

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@1: no, that is not the whole story. the whole story is that a guy was harassed in a public place, transferred across state lines, had his head shaved, and -- apparently -- didn't get to speak with a lawyer for a long period of time.

are these the sort of things you feel the military should not be held accountable for? is this just a paperwork error, or is this a demonstration that certain policies are unjust in how they allow citizens to be treated by their government?

it's a paperwork error either way, sure. but that's not all it is.

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@1: no, that is not the whole story. the whole story is that a guy was harassed in a public place, transferred across state lines, had his head shaved, and -- apparently -- didn't get to speak with a lawyer for a long period of time.

are these the sort of things you feel the military should not be held accountable for? is this just a paperwork error, or is this a demonstration that certain policies are unjust in how they allow citizens to be treated by their government?

it's a paperwork error either way, sure. but that's not all it is.
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er... sorry for the double-post.... i guess it can take over ten minutes to post at some times.
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Interesting... could there in fact be another Chris Banks out there, that the military is confusing this guy with? If he went to basic training in South Carolina, there should be a picture of him upon graduation. Has anyone seen and compared that picture with this Chris Banks? Has anyone checked the Social Security Numbers? What a scary thing to happen, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
12
Yeah its shitty, but its also kind of funny. I mean, a dude with NO idea about military protocol gets shoved into fatigues? This sounds like the beginning of a movie I would watch.

But yeah, he should be compensated, not billed.
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I think it's super funny. Can you imagine being arrested out of an airport and taken to a jail in NC for a week and then having to play army for another week all over a mistake that happened ten years ago? How can big brother be so slow and stupid? I'll bet this guy saw a ton of really interesting shit in the two weeks that none of the rest of us will ever see. And i'll bet a lot of it was really weird, and kinda funny in a way.
14
Um, is it ok to say that he should be imprisoned on charges of being adorable?
15
Whether the military should do this or not isn't at issue: it's whether your government [that you pay for, vote for] should...

Contact Jim McD and McMorris-Rodgers and get this story on national headlines and on american minds. It's appalling that any citizen could have this happen.
16
The ARMY is so gay. I'm in it right now. Air Assault MP. SO ridiculous. I didn't even get a bonus! Im going to afghanistan in august.
17
Wow Chris.... Raise hell.
18
This does not surprise me at all.
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Was it a clerical "error", or was some recruiter filling their quota by enlisting him against his will?
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I am military, and I have fallen off the rolls, and just stopped being paid before, so it happens that paperwork gets utterly jacked up. However, you should be paid for the time you were detained, my guess is at E-1 Pay. Check with DFAS and the people at a military base. I would recommend seeing if you can get a number for Ft. Lewis Finance office, and they may be able to help you get paid. I even think you would be able to get Travel Expenses covered for the flight to Seattle. This all may not work, but with the Army, you have to fight people to get them to do the right thing.
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Paperwork issues and jobs not being done are typical of the military. Too many of the wrong people have access to things they should'nt, and too many of the right people don't, and that's what is screwed up in the system. I was Military Police when i was in and busted a guy for drugs right before i got out, his "friend" in the personnel department gave him all of my personal information, so yea it does happen.
The paperwork system in the Military is the worst I've personally ever seen. The Hospital I work in now has a tighter grip on thier buisness.
Fight this all you can man!!!!!
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Military brat here - yes, all arms of the gov can make mistakes just like humans. This wasn't a single person's mistake though, this was total failure at every level. And it was compounded; they refused to verify his ID as a soldier, he was just told 'stop lying'.

Re-read the sentence starting "After a total of two weeks..." ,

Chris Parks lost 15 days of his life to this mistake. Can you imagine spending 2 weeks straight imprisioned by a suddenly-shadowy arm your own government, the arm of the gov that's paid to kill & destroy for a living, and then being told you were secretly in the military though you knew you weren't, and being denied counsel, info, communications, rights, and being held as essentially a POW by your own nation?? His sister, his family, friends, were terrified. Terrorized.

There's no excuse. 'Typical' does not = right. [It was 'typical' in 1945 to send japanese-americans to internment, too]. Don't you dare try blame "the system" or "Clerical errors" or "Paperwork" for what ultimately is human failures, and a failure of citizens, our neighbors and fellow americans working on our dime, to execute/enforce law correctly.

If he were a foreigner, it would have been accurately described as a 2 week stay in a concentration camp...
This violation of law and rights MUST be prosecuted. None of us can afford to let this slide any more than we can let the police shut down legal protests, or let the mayor steal money from community groups. This was just a sliver away from being state-sponsered domestic terror.
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What I understand from the GI RightsHotline is that these cases are not clerical errors at all. What happens is that the recruiter tells the person to show up at the MEPS and sign in in order to be cleared. Then the recruiter tells the person they don't have to get on their flight because the recruiter will do the separation--but the recruiter never intended to do the separation and no paperwork is filed at the expense of innocent guys like Chris who don't realize what's going on. The recruiter looks and acts official and so they trust the recruiter. But to the rest of the Army it looks like this guy just skipped out. In fact they probably even have his signature on papers he signed at the MEPS to use against him. People in this situation can call the GI Rights Hotline at 877-447-4487 for free information.
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I agree that this was not simply a matter of a clerical error. The real story here is a total failure to protect an innocent civilian's constitutional rights across multiple jurisdictions for a period of two weeks, which is extremely serious.

Banks got out the next day after seeing a military attorney. He should have seen an attorney the same day he was detained. If he had gotten on the phone immediately and get his family to retain an attorney immediately, he might have gotten out right away, but regardless, he should not have had to.

The government cannot arbitrarily detain citizens without cause. Banks should have been immediately informed of the reason for his detention, not told two days later. He should have appeared before a judge for arraignment within 24 or at MOST 48 hours, with an attorney present at state expense if necessary. He should have seen a judge and an attorney before being transferred into military custody, and before being shipped across state lines.

He should have seen a JAG attorney immediately upon arrival at Ft. Knox.

None of these things happened. It was not a "clerical error" that caused these travails, it was a complete breakdown of due process and constitutional rights. It was also an incredible waste of taxpayer money.

This case should be Exhibit A in why we NEED to have a fully-funded public criminal defense bar at all levels of civilian and military justice to ensure that these types of incidents don't happen.

There are far worse abuses of justice happening every day in the criminal courts across the country, especially in the Deep South and rural areas.
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Another fine job done by our "Homeland Security", does
anyone know if "Erkel Obama" got involved in this "Arrest",
I haven't heard him say anything on "T.V." about it, I think
being that he is the "Commander & Chief" and the Arresting
Agents work for him, I think he should personaly apologize to Chris, let's take a vote on this, I will start it off, I
say he should and it should be on "T.V.".
"What Say You" ????
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If he shiped to basic like he orginally agreed to, this wouldnt have happened to him. I wouldnt blame the Army, recruiter, or anyone else but himself for not shipping after he commited to his enlistment. There should be penalties for kids that waste real Soldiers time trying to get him to serve in all volunteer military when they backout.

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