News Sep 10, 2009 at 4:00 am

Bellevue School District Joins Right-Wing Crusade Against Obama

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Why would the President give a political speech to a group of people who can't vote?
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Fuck God, there is no God... Damn you Obama for trying to push your religion on my kids!
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The real question is, why do these people hate America so much they don't want their kids to listen to THE PRESIDENT of the country?
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I worked for the Bellevue School District for two years-- and it certainly loves its financial "donations" from its wealthy families (who threaten to send their children to private schools if they don't get their way). At the elementary school where I was, Teacher Appreciation Week was filled with catered fancy lunches, professional massages in the break room, and even an espresso stand set up in the teacher's lounge. Not saying teachers don't deserved to be loved, but there may be more weight given to Obama-bashing conservatives' opinions when they help make life at the school so cushy. Not to mention that every student also had a laptop to use in every classroom-- a far cry from the west side of the lake, where they sometimes don't even have lunch rooms.
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right wing crusade against obama. left wing crusade against bush. (http://bit.ly/3JM2Go)

America, both of your "wings" are broken.
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Bellevue School District's Board and Superintendent

cudeiroa@bsd405.org
marksc@bsd405.org
millsp@bsd405.org
bushnellj@bsd405.org
bentleyp@bsd405.org
murphym@bsd405.org
oxriedera@bsd405.org
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@5 There is a difference between the agenda of the right-wing, and the left-wing.

With for-profit charter schools, no child left behind, which funnels money away from the schools that need it most, opposing all tax increases, and a general hatred of anything socialist, the Republican party is dedicated to dismantling public education in this country. Also, when the people get educated, they stop voting against their best interests by voting Republican. Any president Bush speaking in a public school is equivalent to Fred Phelps getting paid speaking engagement at a gay pride parade. The only difference is that they allowed the Bushes to do it because they were Presidents.
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As a Texan, I'm offended you just compared us to Bellevue. We're way more Tacoma.
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I was livid when I got the message that the BSD had decided not to have the schools watch the Presidents speech. I had read the transcript the day prior (which was easily found on the internet, by the way) and no part of that speech had a "message inappropriate for our children". The entire message was a fantastic one to put out and I'm ashamed to be involved in any form with BSD at this moment.
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For you folks out there more inclined to book-learnin' and research and such - I wonder if you can tell me this:

Has the Bellevue School District ever banned another speech by one of our elected representatives due to its "political nature"? Or do they just make these special exceptions for black politicians?
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You people should just be glad you don't have to deal with all the right-wing bigots in Georgia. They make your Bellevue folks look like Ted Kennedy.

Love your publication by the way.
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chalk it up to the uwundbkdnsvg.

it's like last night trying to watch for free at the north seattle community college's t.v in the lunch room without a class tuition receipt.

sure, the cable companies have to share their revenue with their investors, just like the telecoms and banks have to disclose where they hide their phone numbers and wash their junkets to the offshore bank accounts.

What I'd like you to get through your head dominic, is the fact that no matter where you dial in your receipts in the future, partisan politics will always be there to re-deploy your degree.
of course, that's granting your diploma is worth the emoticon it is sent in on.
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The part of this most interesting to me is what is it that they fear here?

I started off wondering what anyone, right or left, capable of being elected President, could possibly inflict on my elementrary school kids via a televised speech, that it could have a significant impact on the core values I've been working to instill in them, to the point I would need to keep them from being exposed to it.

Failing to gain any insight, I started riffing on anything they could beam in... Hitler, Limbaugh, David Duke, Orly Taitz, Betsy McCaughey... Yes there'd be discussions with the kids, but I still don't understand the level of fear.

Honestly, the reaction seems to be somewhere on par with showing hardcore fetish films or letting teenage boys call into Mark Foley's new radio show.
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bellevue sucks. i thought everyone already knew that. as for republican weirdies being anti-american, it's just the last gasp of a dying party. schools and education are the biggest weapons against stupidity.. the more educated we become the less people will vote republican.
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"the more educated we become the less people will vote republican."

it's exactly that kind of condescension that makes so many people vote Republican.
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Go check their website; they had a new message that backpedaled considerably from their first. I think they got the message about how out of line they were the first time.
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"GOP Losses Span Nearly All Demographic Groups"

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118528/gop-lo…

Which group went from a wash in 2001 to a 15% gap in 2009? College-educated. This group was the GOP's biggest loss of ground in the 2008 prez election.

I heard of an even higher gap among those with post-grad degrees, but I couldn't find it easily, and it's not my job to find you facts.
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D'oh, sorry, that was addressed to @16, not Dominic Holden.
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I just wanted to say congratulations to the Bellevue School board on banning President Obama's speech.

They just told every student in their district they are too stupid to think for themselves.

At the same time, they've absolved the students of any civic responsibility to listen to what their President has to ask of them. Then, decide what to do, for themselves, based on the speach's merits. You know, to actually think and act for themselves.

Hopefully the Bellevue students spent their time constructively instead, perhaps they had time to practice their goose-stepping.
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Sorry, but I have no idea who could possibly have a qualm with this:

"the tape will be made available to any teacher who wants to use it in a balanced discussion, so long as it fits within the education objectives of the class."

I doubt you would want your children to be forced to listen speeches by the 'radical religious right.'
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@17 Where are their messages - I can't find them on their website.
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Wait, what? It doesn't look to me like the Bellevue School District did anything particularly wrong. It basically told the teachers that it was up to them. And honestly, are you saying that these kids are so retarded they can't YouTube something? Are you really going to give them that little credit? Quit jizzing your pants over the fact that Bellevue did something you can get after, Jeez. Try... Oh, I don't know, finding something legitimate to write about.
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No, Roger That, that's called IGNORANCE. Please don't confuse it with being educated.
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@15: GO, duh, GO!!!!!
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@15: Bellevue doesn't suck, come on. Their school system sure does, though. I've worked with the teachers and I've worked with the supervisors. They're both made of good people but the supervisors don't know how to listen and the teachers don't know how to make them realize what would actually be good in the classroom.

Also, I'm sick of hearing that "(Insert King County town name here) sucks," it's this dumb little back and forth I see on here all the time. Now, either you're all five or you're acting like little children. Grow up. You're all a part of King County, you aren't the best nor is the other town the worst, so get over it. Bellevue isn't all WASPs and McMansions, just as Seattle isn't all coffee houses and liberal arts degree holders. There's truth to both but taking them to extremes like "Bellevue is nothing but a bunch of rich Republican cocks" or "Seattle is nothing but a bunch of whiny liberal douchebags" gets us absolutely nowhere. Once and for all, stop it.
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hooray triangle name, well said.
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@21: You're joking, right? There's no difference between THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and some amorphous 'radical religious right'? Even if we coalesce that into a single role (perhaps a leader of said radical religious right) there remains the fact that one was elected by a majority of the citizens of the united states to the most important role in US government and one is an unelected, theological leader who has nothing to do with the government.
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"At that time, nobody had time to research," says Oxrieder. "We just knew that people were saying it was going to be a political message. We didn't know where it was coming from." But she notes that several parents also called in support of the speech.

No time to do research? It's ten minute's on Youtube, for crying out loud. It's not hard to research. Watch it yourself, call a meeting that next morning. Show it to the other staff. Discuss. Profit!
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Funny part of all of this is.... kids being kids, they would just ignore the speech like they do any other serious instruction from a distant authority figure. None of what Obama said will sink in with any of them. One of those classic cases of adults completely forgetting what it was like to be a kid.

I tried to think of instances where Carter, Reagan or Bush gave a speech to kids when I was in school, but I can't. Probably because I ignored it.
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"the more educated we become the less people will vote republican."

it's exactly that kind of condescension that makes so many people vote Republican.

Anyone who would vote Republican just because some random kid on the internet hurt their feelings deserves what they get.

How about you vote based on the actual policies that your party enacts rather than flushing the country down the toilet as petty revenge against random insults from the internet?
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Sir Vic, I think you might be forgetting what it's like to be a kid yourself. Well, perhaps you might have blown off speeches as boring and trite, perhaps you were right to do so, I really don't know you so I can't speak for you, but I'm one of those kids and I can tell you that everyone I know saw the speech, that includes myself.

Don't blow it off as "Oh, they're just kids and don't care." Some of us really do care, and honestly, unless you're one of those "kids being kids," kindly refrain from speaking for us. First, you aren't one of us and have no right to be representing us if we don't want you to, and second, you'd obviously do us a massive disservice, wouldn't you?

Quit being such a dicky role model and start handing out some respect a little more. You can either treat us all like we're a lot of snot-nosed brats and be right some of the time but a dick most of the time, or you can treat us all like people getting prepped for being adults, and never be a dick regardless of WHO you're referring to. Just so you know, "us kids" (who the hell is "us?" Youth isn't a club) would prefer that you choose the latter, I guarantee it.
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Public school paid for by = many federal dollars. Chief of federal dollars = POTUS. Thus, POTUS = Commander in chief of public schools, and can say anything he likes to those 'cadets' under his care. Wasn't like kids didn't have to watch Reagan in the 80's in class... hell, Gen X all sat and watched Challenger blow up live. I think we can handle a gawddamn speech at a podium.

For fuck's sake, do the parenting. It's work, and teacher's aren't the ones responsible for doing it for you, you lazy fucks. Do. the. work. - it's more than fornication and paying for college, you twits.
Print out the speech and go over it with your child, either the day before or that night. Critique or commend, whichever... and instill your loves/hatreds into your child. It's not that hard.

Same goes for when the schools educate about sex, abortion, internment, darwinism, the big bang, islam and the fact that adam & eve are fictional characters in a partially fictional book. OY! Do the work of parenting and stop wasting my tax dollars making schools spend any effort/time on your whining laziness!
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@33. Grow Up.
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Actually, Sir Vic, l quite applaud that kid, both for correcting your silly dismissal, as well as for stating it like it is, and from his/her perspective. You do realize that a great number of our voters this past election were 'kids', right? And that many rejoiced at being just barely old enough to vote, while others publicly lamented not being old enough to have their votes counted?

"None of what Obama said will sink in with any of them."
When you use absolutes like these in a tone so assured it is correct, it doesn't surprise me at least one of the group you insist you know so well raises his/her voice and asks you not to speak for them. Sadly, your defensive response ignores the fact that 'Just Some Stupid Kid' (a moniker l disagree with) actually did see -and pay attention to- the speech. Unless you voted for the other guy, isn't this what you wanted? Yet here you are, busy going tete a tete with someone half your age or more...and losing. lt's quite funny, actually.

ln case you haven't noticed, things have changed since Carter, Reagan, and Daddy Bush. ln fact, l believe this is the point the kid you're talking down to is trying to make.
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@35: Oh, stop acting like you were a troll the whole time. You weren't and both of us know it because in addition to being one of those stupid kids I'm also a tried-and-true internet asshole and I know an attempted reversal when I see it.

Now then, you probably posted that while tired and mildly irritated with me, but little more. You could have just walked away and waited for me to grow up but you had to have the last word, which makes you something of an argumentative cock (it's okay, we both fit into that category). Either give a proper response or don't respond at all.

Possible explanation: Are you actually a kid yourself? Then stop acting like you're a high-and-mighty adult figure to make yourself feel more important, that's lying, and it's what little first and second graders do sheepishly to get out of trouble. You aren't super special because you read The Stranger, you aren't super special because you made a bullshit observation about being a kid, and you aren't special because you told a 16-year-old to grow up. You're being a hypocritical dick, stop.
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Yes they can't vote now but one day they will vote and the are very vunerable to any and all ideas including POLITICAL RHETORIC!

PLEASE TAKE A POLITICAL SCIENCE COURSE SO YOU UNDER STAND BASIC POLITICS

duh

that being said obama as MANY other presidents who have gone to innumberable schools IN PHOTO OPS WOULD NEVER ever to do that (INDOCTRINATE CHILDREN BLATANTLY AND OVERTLY!)

THIS TRULY IS ( I AM WHITE 61) OUT AND OUT RACISM!

RACIST/NAZI/WHITE SUPREMACISTA ARE FOR SOME STRANGE DISTORTED IRRATIONAL REASON CLOSELY LINKED WITH THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT WING SUPREMACY.

THE BE MO BETTER THAN THE REST OF US MIDDLE-CLASS AMERICANS!

this is just the fring freaks who control and want war and wealth for the few the so called conservatives who are the real problem
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Bellevue- Affulent, educated, informed.

The rest of you- Dirty, dope smooking loser hippies.

Screw your hidden agendas. I'll be the one spitting on you as I walk into the Glenn Beck event this Saturday.
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Obama....God.....vripper....quit ripping em, I can smell em....they're bad, rancid, and filled with the "WRATH OF GOD!!!!"......He's a bloody, muslim......PEOPLE!!! WAKE UP!!!!
HUSSEIN.....OBAMA.....BARACK....KENYA.....
He's a CLOSET MUSLIM....Are you all that desperate and snobby, not to see that he's ruining and making our country worse....2016 olympics more important than troops in afganistan....You might as well have voted in someone off the street....Why do I have the feeling that WA state will be the last to see that they were bamboozled.....oh, well, there's always a nice cup of joe....Starbuck's anyone....Oh, and shut up about Hooter's....the hot girls aren't complaining all the way to the bank, only the wish-could-be's are.....
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@40: Well played, sir. My hat's off to you.

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