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Strip clubs, outdoor drinking, the march continues.
Leave it to a nation-state proclaiming in its basic doctrine the value of "liberty" — sharing, curiously, the same root as "liberal" — to assume licence over turning these English definitions completely on their head. Linguistically, that's anything but conservative or conservationist, as the venerable OED would chidingly remind us.
There be raspberries here.
u mad
Pretending there is wide chasm between liberals and "conservatives" over this bill is only confusing your readers and making The Stranger look silly.
If you actually read the bill, and read the package deal Burgess is proposing, and ACTUALLY TALK TO THE EXPERTS ON HOMELESSNESS (which Dominic BLATANTLY failed to do in his article - too busy looking demure, you know) it is impossible to come to Dominic's conclusions unless you are 1) insane, 2) completely paranoid or 3) just plain fucking dumb. Or I guess 4) trying to stir up controversy. I'm guessing a combination of 2 and 4.
Dominic has taken ECB's example of hyperbole and hysteria, and gone whole hog with it. In doing so, he just confuses the issue with deliberate misinformation (or "omissions of truth", as my cheating ex-boyfriend used to say when he lied). I can't think of any other reason for him to deliberately leave out the opinions of practically EVERY single Seattle organization working on homelessness and poverty in his article, or to omit the FACT that almost ALL of these organizations are members of the DSA. I know that these are very inconvenient truths for Dominic, and that he is better off ignoring them to make his point. But in doing so he just digs a hole that he can't climb out of - I think you were the one who made the apt comparison to Bush.
For whatever reason, DH is positioning himself as the leftist Bill O'Reilly - hyperbole, misinformation, truth-stretching, taunting, and outright lies. I'm curious if this is of his own volition, or if the Stranger overlords are directing him in this way. For years I thought, as another Slog commenter stated, that ECB must have a personality disorder. But now she's at Publicola, and actually does some good, solid reporting. It makes me wonder what the Stranger overlords are doing to these people. Or perhaps they're just picking up on the reporters' natural shortcomings. Either way, I'm beginning to hope that this stint is a short one for DH, because he's starting to sound like a complete lunatic - and he's only a few months into his new post.
Mc Ginn is a fool ... and Obrian want a political future ... not just the Mc Ginn bag/butt boy ...
And the Stranger is always so over the top.
This debate is so trivial ref: the real problems facing the city ...
Meanwhile the rest of the City will take strong action in endorsing AGAINST the Anti-Panhandling Bill, backing up the Mayor.
And now that I actually follow the link you sent, I see:
"Vote: 8-21-00: 7-1 Drago (Absent: Pageler); 9-18-00: Motion to pass over Mayor's veto failed 5-3 (Yes: Conlin, Licata, Nicastro, Steinbrueck, Wills; No: Compton, Drago, McIver; Excused: Pageler)"
So yeah. In fact, Schell's veto worked; two people jumped ship, and the repeal failed that year. They had to come back in 2002 and try again.
@10 - Seemed like an ordinary question when I asked it.
Speaking of hyperbole, have you actually looked at the list of organizations opposing this? In contrast to the list of heads of organizations who have come out in favor -- several of whom have made it clear that they are representing only themselves and not their orgs?
I have enormous respect for Bill Hobson and DESC and support their work greatly and have done so quite vocally over the years. I think he is flat out wrong on this, but I also understand the enormous institutional pressure he is under. I have spoken to several staff members at DESC, YWCA and Plymouth House and to a person they are upset with the position their directors have taken. This issue is quite unfortunately bringing out some fault lines among long-time allies.