Either the Times staff are in on the joke, or somebody really sucks at research, not sure which one amuses me more.
p.s. to Dan - I'm arguing assisted suicide on another forum in the wake of Kevorkian's death and linked your article on the subject, thanks for the great piece.
Wow, I think I remember reading Savage Love in the Chicago Reader when in high school...which means Dan was writing it in when he was in junior high I guess. And puts his Thirty Years Ago post earlier this week in a kind of creepy light.
(Was Savage Love already in a Chicago paper in 91-92? Or am I completely misremembering/confusing my high school times with college times...as happens as you get 36...which I suppose Dan will learn soon.)
For someone who is so confident, self-assured, and so together, why are you so afraid of being your actual age? That has always seemed a disconnect to me. You had better embrace it, because nobody believes you are 34.
are they just going off that picture of Dan in a white t-shirt that always seems to accompany him wherever he's mentioned? do people think Dan Savage is just a sentient picture of a 34 year old man that gives sex advice?
Unless this is a joke, which seems kind of dumb, I can't fathom why they'd mention your age at all. Who cares?
You know how they say that for women, the legs are the last to go? I'd say for men it's the arms. Just keep those biceps looking like they do, and you'll always be a hottie to me, Dan.
Well at least you won't be disappointed when a twenty something says "Wow, you've got that premature grey thing going on. It makes you look 10 years older than I thought you would".
Just the other day, you re-ran an article about your first sexual experience in 1981, 30 years ago. So that means you had sex when you were 4 years old?!? No wonder your pediatrician was so freaked out!! That explains everything.
Dan, I believed you when you said you were 34 about 5 years ago, and I still believe you now. I don't understand why so many people are so determined to call you out on this. Obviously you'd be the best authority on this.
I love Dan's effect on the world through his work, but it's nothing less than pathetic when a man doesn't own his age. Dudes improve with age anyway. Duh.
If dudes improve with age, then jack kevorkian must be perfect for ya now, lewlew. Yeah, "improve"...being into olds is fetish territory, like emetophilia. It isn't terrible or good, but it's not statistically normal, and for very good reason. A man whose face has more lines than a frank stella or the bonneville salt flats is sooo...hot? Falling apart is so attractive....to some people.
Dan -- Just adding this comment to make sure that search engines pick up the fact that you intentionally lied to our intern not once, but twice, about your age. The correction to her story on your achievement award will show up in digital searches of her work. I want to be sure her future employers know how the mistake happened. The Seattle Times erred by not catching it; you erred by scamming an intern.
Kathy Best, Managing Editor, The Seattle Times
I support Dan being 34, because that means I'm 34 as well. Take that, Kathy Best.
By The Way, Kathy, your paper is ridiculous. I would think having the Seattle Times on the intern's resume would be worse than believing Dan Savage to be 34.
We'll all shake our heads with bemusement when people claim that the world is 6000 years old, but, to quote a previous post on here today) BITCH, PLEASE! (Spoken with all the love in the world)
I love how people are taking this so. damn. seriously. I'm notquitethirty (I get to do that for another month), and I already jokingly lie sometimes. 'Specially when people sound so surprised about where I am in my career for "such a young professional." I just laugh and tell them I'm a genius who finished my MA at 19 (seriously, the "best guess" as to my age by strangers has made it all the way up to 24...it's quite nice).
Oh, and Ms. Best, your intern would do well to learn to use the internets. If she can't quickly Google a public figure with lots of info about him on the internet before she interviews him, she's totally sunk. I thought kids today were tech savvy?
@50 kids today are (sorta) tech savvy, but as someone who teaches research skills to college students I can tell you that they are not critical-thinking, critical-reading savvy, unless very carefully trained and highly motivated.
Meh...The joke's less funny to me because it happened at the expense of an intern. Internet or not, wouldn't you trust the person you're interviewing not to lie to you twice?
@50 and @51: Even the most experienced journalist would likely not feel she had to go to public records to check the age of someone she was writing a positive article about and who had given her an age not once, but twice. She would reasonably expect the story subject to have some integrity.
@42, your comment only shows your ignorance of how search engines work. You'd need to include the intern's name in your comment for this page to pop up in any search likely to be done by a potential employer. Although it would be easier, and not inappropriate, to include in the correction itself a humorous bit about the fact that the intern was punked by Dan Savage. Especially as Dan is famous first not for any one achievement, but for personality - the kind of personality that drives him to pull this and other stunts. Or does the Seattle Times really have *no* room for a sense of humor, however small?
@54 Oh, they did include that... after a fashion...
"Information in this article, originally published June 2, 2011, was corrected June 3, 2011. A previous version of this story said Dan Savage was 34. Savage is 46. When Savage was asked for his age, he lied to the reporter twice, both times telling her he was 34."
"He lied to the reporter twice"--factually correct, but somewhat lacking in grace and sense of humor...
FFS, how can these people be so upset about something that's quite possibly the oldest white lie in the book? Okay, stereotypically it's women who lie about their age, but...
you know how that works, don't you?
Dan has to let Terri cheat all he wants.
And Dan pays all the bills.
Plus Dan wears two bags over his head when Terri fucks him.
with the lights off.
@54, 55: My guess is that the Seattle Times, like most newspapers, hates running corrections. Usually the reporter shoulders all the blame, but in this case Dan told the same "white lie" twice. So they're emphasizing that part of the story to shift the blame - and questions about their accuracy - off of themselves. Maybe they could have handled it more gracefully - but Dan did fudge the truth, and it is the Seattle Times we're talking about, so it's not too surprising how they responded.
@56 Don't extrapolate from your relationship to Dan's, mate.
@58 Oh, I guess that they're pissed, but I think this whole thing would be a lot less embarrassing for them if they had more of a sense of humor about it.
@50: Really? Isn't it a much bigger problem that people today regurgitate whatever they find in Wikipedia as fact, without checking it out? So in this case the reporter goes directly to the source, and he lies -- twice.
@62 well it's certainly an asshole move to then make fun of the newspaper for it. seems like lying about your age is one of those permissible things to do though. :)
but mostly your comment shows some ignorance about Wikipedia. It's biggest sin is having disorganized articles, not being inaccurate over basics facts like birth year.
It's almost like after reading years of bullshit right-wing editorials in the Seattle Times, Dan has contempt for that paper! Plus he's funny! Haw! I larf!
Why the fuck did the intern feel the need to report his age in this story anyway? This isn't high school English class. Focus on relevant facts and get pissed if someone lies to you about those.
It's a shame the Times is training it's interns to take whatever someone says on the phone as verified fact. I thought the point of being a journalist was to have some skepticism about interviews and to verify via other sources. Teaching someone to be a note-taker is not teaching journalism. Maybe this is the best lesson this interns will get while at the paper.
"Why the fuck did the intern feel the need to report his age in this story anyway? "
It is standard journalistic practice in dailies to report the age of the subject in this type of article. (for subjects that aren't reported on every day). Very common. If you read newspapers regularly, you'd know this.
I'm happy to see that someone called bullshit on Dan. Sure, he's an uber-talented guy with amazing achievements. But he can also be an arrogant, self-righteous ass, as he clearly was in this case when he not only lied to the reporter, but then ridiculed her for believing him.
Dan can be 34 and 46 at the same time: 46 in base 10. 34 in base 14. Or, if he wants to be 31, base 15. Or, with an amusingness factor of two, 22 in base 22. Too!
Care to share the technology with the rest of us?
p.s. to Dan - I'm arguing assisted suicide on another forum in the wake of Kevorkian's death and linked your article on the subject, thanks for the great piece.
(Was Savage Love already in a Chicago paper in 91-92? Or am I completely misremembering/confusing my high school times with college times...as happens as you get 36...which I suppose Dan will learn soon.)
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You know how they say that for women, the legs are the last to go? I'd say for men it's the arms. Just keep those biceps looking like they do, and you'll always be a hottie to me, Dan.
Thanks.
Just the other day, you re-ran an article about your first sexual experience in 1981, 30 years ago. So that means you had sex when you were 4 years old?!? No wonder your pediatrician was so freaked out!! That explains everything.
Thanks, Seattle Times!!
http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archive…
*looks around for a newspaper to publish my "age"*
I’ve got a pair of guns too and am also not 34 or 43.
Dan, I believe you. I believed you when you said you were 34 years ago, and I will continue to believe you're 34 for at least another decade!
Sheesh, Seattle Times! Do your homework.
Kathy Best, Managing Editor, The Seattle Times
He's just having fun here. As are most of us.
(Oh hey... twelve years... are you trying to tell us that the secret to youthful good looks is *children*??? )
By The Way, Kathy, your paper is ridiculous. I would think having the Seattle Times on the intern's resume would be worse than believing Dan Savage to be 34.
Oh, and Ms. Best, your intern would do well to learn to use the internets. If she can't quickly Google a public figure with lots of info about him on the internet before she interviews him, she's totally sunk. I thought kids today were tech savvy?
"Information in this article, originally published June 2, 2011, was corrected June 3, 2011. A previous version of this story said Dan Savage was 34. Savage is 46. When Savage was asked for his age, he lied to the reporter twice, both times telling her he was 34."
"He lied to the reporter twice"--factually correct, but somewhat lacking in grace and sense of humor...
FFS, how can these people be so upset about something that's quite possibly the oldest white lie in the book? Okay, stereotypically it's women who lie about their age, but...
you know how that works, don't you?
Dan has to let Terri cheat all he wants.
And Dan pays all the bills.
Plus Dan wears two bags over his head when Terri fucks him.
with the lights off.
http://images.nymag.com/arts/theater/fea…
@58 Oh, I guess that they're pissed, but I think this whole thing would be a lot less embarrassing for them if they had more of a sense of humor about it.
Asshole.
but mostly your comment shows some ignorance about Wikipedia. It's biggest sin is having disorganized articles, not being inaccurate over basics facts like birth year.
It is standard journalistic practice in dailies to report the age of the subject in this type of article. (for subjects that aren't reported on every day). Very common. If you read newspapers regularly, you'd know this.
Dan can be 34 and 46 at the same time: 46 in base 10. 34 in base 14. Or, if he wants to be 31, base 15. Or, with an amusingness factor of two, 22 in base 22. Too!
Math geeks rule.