News Aug 24, 2011 at 4:00 am

Why the Mayor Is Weaker Than Ever, Even with His Base

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I hope he appreciates all your help getting him this far. We voters sure do.
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At best only 20 percent of registered Seattle voters voted for the Deep Polluting Tunnel in the Primary.

He's only in danger from the Elites who wanted Mallahan anyway.

Plot the votes by neighborhood and income quartile.
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Eh, it's fine to like the guy and his policies while recognizing that the learning curve is tantamount to climbing the side of a building while coated in crisco, especially since we're not even halfway to election day.

It seems like the progressives are being strangled on the west coast through obstinate establishment figures, from Gavin Newsom having to GTFO and run for LtGov after being stonewalled by a hostile Board of Supervisors to Sam Adams being slammed out of existence by the Oregonian and Pamplin and now McGinn with a Party of No sitting behind the City Council dais and a hostile media.

This isn't a strange or surreal thing, it's the climate. You either circle your wagons and kick out outsiders or you join hands and sing kumbayah around risk and innovation when it's a difficult proposition.

But you know what? Fuck that. It's time to be bold and daring, the whole conservative shtick is failing the fuck out of us right now. Taking just one example, if we had moved forward with Walk Bike Ride last year, we wouldn't need a $60 VLF, for example. And that's just one piece of a larger puzzle.

Seattle lost its balls and now the establishment is hiding behind the legendary "do nothing, risk nothing" wall of Seattle politics.
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Will and Gloomy are on target. Holden's right to hold McGinn's feet to the fire, but the game ain't over.
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Yep, the Stranger is turning on McGinn. How predictable.

Eew. McGinn isn't perfect enough. Sheesh.
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Same reason we are still in Iraq and Afghanistan and Donald Rumsfeld is at Ft Lewis?

Same reason Internet Explorer tells me the problem is with the Broadband and then it tells me its with the website and then it wants to search "My" computer for a Problem?

Same reason we have the largest GDP on the face of the planet but we owe China trillions and cant afford to take care of school kids, Veterans,Elderly or anyone really.

But yea I guess as even the media is tapping your cell phones to get a story about who your dating its no wonder the dumb ass questions are on the front page?
Nickols the pickles left Seattle a far better place and I mean "FAR" better place then the Seattle I saw in 2000 and Mike McGinn has kind of focused on the plumbing and utility's and bank book of the place more than he has looked at the house from the sidewalk but He is doing fine as long as he slows down and looks hard at what he has done and looks at the house from the sidewalk.

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@3

Newsom's actually a dick. Hostilities between him and the Board were largely created by him, and he GTFO and ran for LG because term limits would have prevented him from running for reelection again next year. After he was elected to LG, he stuck around as mayor longer than he had to in order to allow the new, more conservative Board to be sworn in so that they could appoint a more pro-corporate successor. I think there was some question as to the legality of him not taking up the LG's office as soon as he could, but no one really challenged him on it. Afterward, he moved to Marin County.
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McGinn has only himself to blame. It's easy to sell yourself as an outsider but then you are faced with issues that are far more nuanced and complex than you ever imagined. Hate to draw this comparison, but Eyman and McGinn are alike in that they are good at the sound bite and "populist" message, but don't have the substance or depth to satisfy the general voting population.

Also fear that his administration and approach will work against future funding for bike plans and other transit options. Political capital and goodwill were burned up at an incredible rate.
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McGinn lost a home game, with The People.

Referendum 1 frivolously occupied expensive real estate on our ballot for one reason, and for only one reason: the anti-tunnel faction spent $58,000 to obtain 29,000 signatures. How they then managed to delude themselves into believing they had "The People" on their side remains a mystery. (Did they pay Timmeh teh Failed Watch Salesman from Speedwayville another $58,000 for his super magickal Kool-Aid?)

I sincerely hope Goldy is correct, and Mayor McGinn can now leave this issue, and work on behalf of our city. As a 100% supporter of the deep-bored tunnel for SR-99, I hope he delivers on his other promises. I want more public transit and bike options; those are how I commute to work.
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Just have to point out that you guys were total self righteous d-bags during the MgGinn vs "Mayor McCheese" election.

No one thought that Nichols was perfect, but he was the only guy in decades who seemed to be capable of getting things DONE in a crazy political environment like Seattle.

You skewered everyone who saw that McGinn was nothing but a blow hard ideologue, especially the Times, and frankly you owe them an apology. (I generally hate the Times and their Kemper-bate fest, but just being the Times doesn't make them wrong on every issue... something you would do well to remember).
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McGinn can not be accused of Flip-Flopping
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Wow... looks like Dom has finally figured out why McGinn shouldn't be mayor. Well, mayor of Seattle, at least. It looks like he can still be the mayor of SLOG.

Bottom line - the man can't execute. He could have the brains of Einstein and the compassion of Mother Teresa, but with the political instincts Ralph Nader those ideas aren't going anywhere.

And you can moan and bitch about monied interests all you want, but unless you can actually plot a way around them you're basically Oliver Stone without the filmography.

Next steps? Acknowledge your miscalculation with this guy and find his replacement. Time to move on.
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One way or another, Mayor McGinn will be exonerated for opposing the DBT. Its "fatal" flaws will be revealed during construction or after. Seattlers misled to believe it isn't an act of misanthropic malevolence will be left with the bill, the damages and worse traffic than ever. Tunnel proponents will crank up their greasy PR propaganda machine to direct blame for the fiasco onto political opponents. Their choir of halfwit supporters will echo a chaotic refrain. Seattle is utterly corrupt. Have a nice day, losers.



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Yes, Wells. The problem is with everybody else, not you.
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A big part of being Mayor, or being ANY type of leader, is being able to work constructively with those who disagree with you. McGinn does not play well with others. He antagonizes and disrespects people he needs to work with. He has no political skill and, like it or not, that's a necessary part of the job. And it's not even like he's in a position like Obama where he's forced to deal with people from the opposite side of the ideological spectrum-the dude can't get along with democrats! He's ineffective because he's immature and a sore loser.
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I liked McGinn's plans to, honestly, the seawall is very important, many buildings (including the one I live in) depend on it, and if it goes, well .... I hope I drown on that day. Tunnel is a bad idea, honestly, I say just be rid of the viaduct, screw replacing it, gas is cheaper people can go around. As for the rest of his promises, I didn't pay much attention to them as I know one fact that many people forget, these are politicians, and one that at least puts some effort into keeping even one promise would be a serious improvement. I said I liked his plans, never said I expected more from him than I do from any other politician. But here's the catch, people opposed him a LOT, even badgered him, and whenever a politician tries to play nice with others (sorry Lauri) they get labeled as weak or on the fence. He may have failed to put anything through, but at least he wasn't "sitting on the fence." ;)

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