News Sep 2, 2012 at 9:12 am

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There's always a post-convention bump. This is no surprise. Obama will get one too. This race is too close for anyone to call.
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Thank god it's not another cat wanting chezeburger video. Everyone who owns a cat know they have heavy foreign accents with a splash of condescension in their tone.
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I guess some undecided voters are persuaded by crazy
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Correct about the post election bump. It's also a Rasmussen poll which generally trends to the Republican's favor.
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@1, @4: Predictable spin.
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@ 5 Its accurate if you don't see how biased Rassmussen is well I can't help you.
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Nate Silver puts the poll into context: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com…
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I don't understand why people with chronic severe illnesses like this don't move to a democratic state where it is easy to get Medicaid that would cover all of it, as long as you make under $20,000 or so a year. She would not have had to die. Worth it to move, no?
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The Hill released a poll today that shows Obama is up a point from last week....

Sorry Gay Dude...the bump is already fading a way
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@2

In one of the three videos, Henri makes a contemptuous reference to cheeseburgers.
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@6: So is Rasmussen is also biased when his polls show Obama beating Romney? All polls are inherently imperfect. So I go by the Real Clear Politics average of all polls which show Obama beating Romney by 0.1%
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@10, there is also someone who posted another cat's love video to Henri; very funny. I think this could become a really good internet series if it's done right. Add a long lost love for Henri, introduce a radical French communist who has a lingering love interest and you've got the start to something pretty funny
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@11
So your lack of understanding extends to basic math?
That is not surprising.
Why would an average that includes a biased poll be useful?
Oh, I get it.
You have no idea what "margin of error" means.
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@9: I head it said that Jimmy Carter was doing well ahead of Reagan in the polls until after the debates. Similarly, this election year is like that. Americans in 1980 were unhappy with Carter but extremely skeptical of Reagan. The debates changed that as they felt confident enough in the challenger that to take the risk seemed prudent.

Obama's last chance of retaining the presidency is to win the debates.
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@14 Hardly Obama's last chance. Obama is still ahead. Look at the state by state polls. Also, as many others have said, Rasmussen is inherently biased. Exclude their polling and the race isn't quite as close.

Will this race be close? Probably. But there is still the DNC Convention, still the debates, so my guess is Obama isn't exactly packing his bags yet. Will this race be close.
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Only a few more days until these dreadful bumpershoot ads go away. Why does some much of the screen on the left and the right have to hot? Not to mention the annoying pops/pull (whatever they're called) at the bottom.
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@Dude,

I think you've got it backwards, Rmoney's only chance of becoming President is winning the debates, and I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
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Mormons don't need caffeine, they got Mormon Tea.. Ephedra, ya know the weed, eh??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedra
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Hal David died yesterday. Here's a pretty great moment with Tony Bennett (playing Bumbershoot in a few hours) and a stunningly coiffed-and-outfitted Lena Horne doing a TV duet of "Look of Love/My Funny Valentine". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4wRU7EdX…

(Bennett did record "Look of Love" for his legendarily terrible 1970 "hits of today" album, kicking off a decade that culminated in his near-fatal cocaine overdose.)

So back to Hal David - here's a wonderful live clip: Ella Fitzgerald and her band effortlessly finding all the glory in "I'll Never Fall in Love Again". Since it's a showtune ("Promises, Promises") I hope Dan finds a dance mix of this to play at his upcoming Showbox DJ battle vs. Ira Glass. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wd-apDwG…
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Rasmussen's standing margin of error is 3%. That he can state that the Republicans got a convention bounce is fair evidence that he's a hack.
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@14
So you still don't understand "margin of error"?
No problem.
Keep on embarrassing yourself in public.

Obama will easily win the debates by brining up the fact that Romney refuses to release as many tax returns as Obama released.
What's Romney hiding?
Obama wasn't afraid to release them.
Why is Romney afraid to release them?

But then you're a sad troll who defends racists and bigots.
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@17: Absolutely. In fact I thought of posting a "Conversely, ..." note but you beat me to it. I wouldn't underestimate Romney's debating skills.
Everybody thought 'W's long "...uhs" would sink him and Mitt doesn't have those verbalization issues.
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@22
Did you figure out "margin of error" yet?
No?
So keep avoiding it.
:)
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Years ago, I worked for a mormon owned company, when I had to work graveyard and empty the garbage cans in the offices, there were always coke cans buried in the bottom of the mormon workers. In the scheme of things that people hide about themselves, that always struck me funny.

@14 His lap smacking was annoying the hell out of me during his acceptance speech. Also 1980 had the iranian hostage crisis and an active 3rd party candidate (John Anderson. 1980 isn't a great comparison to this year.

Another odd polling fact from this year, democrats have have been sharing a fair amount of their own internal polling numbers this year, where the republicans have yet to release any. Historically, if your not showing (crowing) them, it usually means things are looking weaker than 'underdog' status.
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@23: You're being silly. The margin of error is assumed when discussing polls.
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@24: There's the joke, "Why do you take two Mormons when you go fishing? If you only take one, he'll drink all your beer!"
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Off Topic but watching Series 7 opener for Doctor Who....is anyone else really over the entire Amy and Rory relationship?
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National polling is virtually meaningless. It's the electoral math that matters, and that's currently strong for Obama.

Nate Silver is the man.
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"coke cans buried in the bottom of the mormon workers''

So the magic underwear isn't why they walk funny.
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@ 27 - nah. When they got back together on the transporter pad, I cried. I wish Daleks were scary, they never scared me as a kid and they're still a stupid alien. It's the sink plunger forehead.
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@28: Yes, but Obama is only up by ~1.5 in Ohio. That's too close for comfort.
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@16 Install the Adblock Plus browser plugin till the ads end.

@26 Funny in that grain of truth way, thank you.

@24/ Self. Meant Lip smacking Romney, as in this... http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/31…

@29 Yeah, saw that visual I was sending out the split second I hit post. Bad fingers, no cookie for you!

And for no reason than I'm still enamored over the Gangnam Style video, here's the Oregon Duck's version (not sure why 'Sexy' is edited out)... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDpgzn7K…

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@26: Buwahahahahahahahaha!
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@25
I should offer remedial classes in math.
:)
No, the margin of error is not "assumed".
And since there are different margins of error for different polls, they cannot be averaged.
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@34: If you wish to continue belaboring the point, then be my guest. We're all ears!
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@34: Let me put it another way. Technically, you are correct. If the difference between two candidates is less than, say 3-5%, then it's statistically meaningless to talk about the race because it's within the margin of error. Bun in all practicality, people will still spin anything above .5 % for their candidate, or against their adversary. The 'margin of error' is in the fine print and therefore mostly ignored.
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@36
I don't think you understand what "margin of error" is.

"If the difference between two candidates is less than, say 3-5%, then it's statistically meaningless to talk about the race because it's within the margin of error."

Okay, now I know you don't know what "margin of error" is.
Look it up on Wikipedia.
Here, I'll help you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margin_of_e…

And the original point what how GDfR is ignorant of basic facts and refuses to address issues.
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After reading that explanation why caffeine is permitted in "cold" drinks but hot drinks are prohibited, one would come away with the impression that it's a bullshit religion.
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For all those thinking they don't have to get off their lazy butts and get to the polls and vote for Obama because he has an easy win, I'd like to point out that attitude got Bush II another term in office.

Vote you fools. Make sure you're registered now, have the I.D. needed ready for the polls, know what measures and candidates are on the ballot, and find out where your polling place is. Don't assume Obama can win another four years without your one, tiny insignificant vote. Voter apathy is the reason our country is currently run by religious zealots and corporations.
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Republicans now the majority party of the people

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c…

Not true all during Bush. Started 2010.
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So the Pirate Bay founder skips out on a jail term and gets brought to justice. Roman Polanski anally rapes a crying 13 year old he has drugged near senseless and retains "too important to serve his jail sentence" status.

WTF global justice system?
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@38 It's an endemic problem in religions which are based in literal interpretation of "scripture." In this case, the Mormon "book" says no coffee or tea. It doesn't say anything about artificially caffeinated soft drinks, so yay!, loophole!, I guess.

Any religion based on hair-splitting, word-parsing, literal interpretation is, in my opinion, inferior to a spiritual pursuit or aspiration based on broadly-shared principles. Nor is any religion better than just being a generous, caring, kind person who respects and helps others, out of secular altruism.
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By Rasmussen's own statement they collect data by CALLING PEOPLE ON THEIR LANDLINE and dabble in internet polling. The only people they will get to answer a home phone are going to be at least 60+ years old, these hacks have been peddling polling info to an audience of senior citizens for years.
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Rasmussen has a long-established record of skewing their polls towards republicans.

You know, you two idiots can blather all you like, but you'll never escape the fact that WBush was the conservatives' darling, and he was the most incompetent president in well over a hundred years. Worse than Harding, worse than Coolidge (who were both conservative.) Sure, go ahead, rah-rah for Romney. The only reason you do that is because conservatives value authority, being told what to do, and hive-mind thinking. You're doing as you're told. But you're leaders are idiots at best, evil geniuses at worse. The Bush/Cheney pair up. You have nothing of value to offer America. That doesn't mean that Obama is a saint. It just means that your political views are worthless.
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Oh, come on. I know a lot of people under 60 who have landlines. Of course, they're not hipster twerps like most of you guys.
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@44: You obviously don't understand what conservatism means, other than you hate it - which really isn't a very learned position you'll have to admit.
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@46: No dude. We know what it means and has meant. It os the republican party, judging from their stated platform that does not.
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Edit "is" not "os"
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@47: Misplaced modifier. I'm surprised you didn't address it in your correction in @48.
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@46
Then maybe you can point out who the "conservative" candidate was in both of the elections where Bush was the Republican candidate.

No, you cannot, can you.
All you can do is defend racists and bigots.
You have a very sad life.
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@46 Oh Raindrop, stop projecting. It's clear you don't care what Rmoney or his party stand for as long as it gives you the illusion of belonging to something contrary.
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@40

Bailo that's the breakdown of those polled by Rassmussan not the demographics of the country. Thanks for proving our point about their Republican bias.
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@42

Are you getting that directly from the source? I'm just going by things that have been written about Mormon doctrine, so I may be missing some details, but I think I read that the Book of Mormon refers to "hot drinks" without clearly specifying what that means, but the term was understood by Mormons to mean tea and coffee, but not hot chocolate or, presumably, things like hot apple cider. So "hot" here didn't refer to temperature, but then when it comes to cola, apparently it does. Presumably ice coffee or ice tea is also prohibited. Crazy ass Mormon rules.
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@45 - I know a lot of people under 60 who have landlines, too, but none of them live paycheck-to-paycheck. A mobile phone is now viewed as an essential accessory. If you have trouble making ends meet and your cell phone works at home, dumping your landline is a no-brainer.

(That's not why I dropped mine; I resented being charged NOT to be listed in the landline phonebook.)

A poll that includes only those who can afford a completely superfluous convenience will probably skew it Republican.
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@ 49: Oh Gay Dude, you're such a caution. The Republican Party platform, as it stands today, is not a conservative document. Radical right wing ideology is not a synonym for conservative. The Republican Party has lost its way, and as Lindsey Graham recently pointed out, in it's present incarnation there aren't enough "angry white guys" to sustain it.
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@53 (Sorry about the late response, and yeah, I realize no one is likely to see this, but in the interest of full disclosure...)

My info is second-hand, from a Dr. Pepper-addicted Mormon who explained the "rules" to me as he and his family practice them. I was friends with another pair of Mormons years ago who specifically avoided tea and coffee, but not herbal tea. So, I'm kinda deducing here what the "correct" mainstream interpretation of the Book is. Admittedly, it's based on a small sample, but I am certainly unqualified to interpret their scripture for them on my own.

And no, that last sentence doesn't negate my assertion about literal interpretation vs. loopholes vs. broad principles of ideal human social behavior.

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