News Sep 18, 2013 at 4:00 am

The Council Says Russian Anti-LGBT Violence, Laws "Off-Topic"

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If this wasn't an election year and she wasn't so set against letting McGinn look good in any way, Clark would have likely led on this issue. She is one of the most divisive elected officials we have in Seattle. Thank you for calling her out on this.
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Sally Clark & Ed Murray are purely 2nd wave gays - they have their marriage rights, so they don't give a shit about anyone else.

We need to care about the T's and the Q's on the LGBTQ, poor queers, and racially/socially marginalized queers. They are the ones most hurt by social discrimination, and they are the ones who need the most help by the government.

We need queer people in elected positions, but not if they're hurting, and not helping, people in need. Or else you'll just end up with the equivalent of Sarah Palin feminists or Herman Cain minority representation. Queer rights might not be McGinn's focus, but he's better at them than any of the 2nd wave gays on the city council or Ed Murray.
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Good. People want the city council to run the city, not take a stand on every issue facing the world today.

McGinn can always count on the Stranger, though, to help him do what he does best -- drive a wedge between people. So what are we suppose to take away from this -- that Sally Clark is anti-gay? Lord.
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When a citizen is elected to public office they must be a voice of reason and compassion...and an openly Gay legislator who say nothing about an official Russian policy that is harming LGBT members in Russia at a public forum is simply a coward.
Sorry if this upsets some people..but it is the truth.
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I rarely agree with Clark as I think she just goes whichever the wind seems to be blowing, but in this case, I have to agree.

"because the council has recently passed resolutions opposing federal approval of genetically modified salmon, supporting a statewide initiative to label genetically modified foods, endorsing marriage equality in Washington State, and seeking an end to the Iraq war. The Seattle City Council has also passed resolutions denouncing the oppressive military regime in Burma, calling for an end to apartheid in South Africa (twice), supporting democracy in South Africa, and asking for the release of Nelson Mandela."

At least half of these things were mistakes to take a council vote on as they have nothing to do with the workings of city Govt.

So, you see, these things do not confirm that the council is wrong for not passing a resolution on what is happening in Russia, they are examples of the council over-reaching and stepping into waters that they have not one single good reason for stepping in.
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The SEATTLE city council was elected to be concerned about SEATTLE, not spend all their time pontificating on issues many thousands of miles away that don't directly effect the quality of life in SEATTLE.
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#8 Why do YOU care if the city council deals with Seattle or not, Arthur? All you do is denounce Seattle for not being segregationist and not using even more police brutality against blacks(as if demonizing black people and restricting them further would solve any problems at all, and as if most poor people weren't white, and as if the really issue isn't the greed of the 1%, not the behavior of people who don't look like you).

You hate Seattle anyway, Arthur. Why don't you just move to Yakima and be done with it?

(Oh yeah...Yakima has Latino farm workers...you couldn't handle that, either).

Or Northern Idaho?

(Oh yeah, they drove your friends out of Northern Idaho).

Guess there aren't any places you can go at all and feel at home, are there, Arthur?

Other than maybe Macon Country, Georgia, in 1953. Or South Africa before freedom came.

Or Berlin, before VE Day.
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Why do YOU care if the city council deals with Seattle or not, Arthur? All you do is denounce Seattle for not being segregationist and not using even more police brutality against blacks(as if demonizing black people and restricting them further would solve any problems at all, and as if most poor people weren't white, and as if the really issue isn't the greed of the 1%, not the behavior of people who don't look like you).
Where did you come up with this shit? Your boyfriend just leave you?

Well ABNSP, I will not fuck you no matter how many times you ask. You just need to get over me, I'm already taken. Anyway, I was told you don't know how to properly wipe your ass, and that's kind of a turn-off.
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#14, Arthur, Arthur, Arthur...again with your secret fantasies.

Look, I have a lot of gay friends, but that's not how I roll...and, sorry buddy, but even if I did, well, don't flatter yourself.

Weird how racism and twisted homophobia(driven by secret closeted longings, perhaps?)seem to go together.

You have only one theme, Arthur...all black people are poor, all poor people are black, black people who are poor and poor people who happen to be black(most poor people, including most homeless people, are white, as you of course know)are poor because of their race and the moral defeciency you think that being a member of that race automatically causes.

In the world MOST of us live in, poverty is actually caused, in most cases(and made worse, in most if not all cases)by the actions of corporate power and their intersections with the actions of white supremacists. The white supremacists not only make life worse for the minority of the poor and homeless who are black or brown, they make life worse for the white homeless, the white barely-not-homeless poor, adn the black, white, brown and red working-class folks who are struggling to stay out of outright poverty...by using race as a smokescreen to pit the have-nots against each other.

This is why we need a full-employment economy...so that people aren't pushed into the economic danger zones that produce bigotry and misery.

And it's why we need a full-respect social and economic system that doesn't discard people, doesn't declare people losers and failures, doesn't lay people off right before they'd be eligible for a pension, and in general doesn't treat the majority of us as economic cannon-fodder.

Working for that is a lot more useful than equating poverty with blackness and blackness with depravity.

Why don't you run for mayor? You seem to be sure

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