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Yep. Just as they had a choice to enter the country illegally and then break a law and get arrested.
One thing my parents told me when traveling abroad was NEVER BREAK THE LAW.
that terms is only applied to people of color. and btw often detainees aren't guilty of anything they haven't had their hearing yet. you'd know that if you knew what the law actually was. but in fact you don't. have some compassion for people trying to work and better their lives why don't you -- and stop being so mean.I recall being in france once and OMG!!!! I broke the law by smoking hash! my pal broke the law bringing it in from morocco! Obama BROKE THE LAW taking drugs, so did GEORGE BUSH BROKE THE LAW taking coke and driving drunk, but somehow you don't call them ILLEGALS.
The US routinely "deports" US citizens to countries they've never been in because of screwed-up or missing paperwork. Sometimes those people are mentally ill or don't speak English or have documents. If I stole your wallet and left you in the gutter, could you prove you were a US citizen? Not a problem -- you're white.
And even people being lawfully deported deserve to be treated better than animals. Horses shipped to Mexico for slaughter are treated better than humans in ICE facilities.
This is an important story, and an issue where the factual details get completely obscured by willful ignorance fueled by blind hate. Entering unlawfully and most other immigration violations are just that under the law--violations. This means the police can't arrest you (just as they can't for speeding), the DA can't prosecute you (ditto), and that you are not, technically, a criminal. Difficult for a hater to understand -- immigrants are not criminals just by being immigrants.
This is why there is a unique court and enforcement system for dealing with these infractions. Sadly, under this system (and because they are not 'criminals'), immigrants facing deportation, who all have the right to fight the case in immigration court, are not entitled to an appointed lawyer the way, say, any violent criminal is entitled to a public defender.
Everyone at the NW Detention center is detained for immigration reasons only. There are no sentences in immigration, so the decision to keep a detainee or release the on their own recognizance while they stay under vigilance of ICE and the courts is completely discretionary. A number of those detainees may have permission to work in the U.S. legally. Many more may have green cards. Hundreds have meaningful ties in the U.S. that could qualify them to benefit from Prosecutorial Discretion, which ICE rarely exercises though it is in its power. Hundreds more qualify for some type of immigration relief--status--which would close their deportation proceedings but because they can't access or afford a lawyer they may never know.
The same conditions apply for unaccompanied children detained by immigration. They are in shelters run by a different government department but they similarly face deportation with no right to an appointed counsel. There is no lower age limit to who can be put in deportation proceedings. Babies can be and are deported. There are about 10 facilities for detained unaccompanied children in Washington and Oregon alone.
Immigration is not a criminal issue. It is a humanitarian one.
Most undocumented immigrants came to the U.S. on a visa and overstayed their welcome. They didn't "enter the country illegally", dumbass.
I actually don't have a problem with illegals. For the most part they work hard and contribute to this country. You don't see American bums sitting outside Home Depot on a rainy day looking for work. But if you break the law and go to jail? Tough shit. You're out of here. No country has this open borders bullshit, why should we?
Now, I'll give some leeway to folks who came to the US legally and stayed legally (green cards, refugees) if arrested for non-violent crimes, but if you entered the country illegally, or illegally overstayed a visa and then commit a crime?
ICE conducted a total of 368,644 removals.
ICE conducted 133,551 removals of individuals apprehended in the interior of the U.S.
82 percent of all interior removals had been previously convicted of a crime.
ICE conducted 235,093 removals of individuals apprehended along our borders while attempting to unlawfully enter the U.S.
59 percent of all ICE removals, a total of 216,810, had been previously convicted of a crime.
Of the 151,834 removals of individuals without a criminal conviction, 84 percent, or 128,398, were apprehended at the border while attempting to unlawfully enter the U.S. and 95 percent fell within one of ICE's stated immigration enforcement priorities.
No country in the world lets folks who have committed crimes, living illegally in the nation, to stay. Why should we?
Overimmigration to an already overpopulated and expensive place, like Seattle, does not do anyone any good.
These countries need to solve their own problems first. By extraordinary means if needed. And control their birthrate.
Letting the US be an overflow valve without correcting the flood at source doesn't help anyone.
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Sorry, you only get one pick.
this is wild
I say, toss a few hot tamales in their cells. They'll be eating in no time.
Ever heard of NAFTA? The IMF? Why do you think that immigrants are coming from other countries in the first place? Do you honestly believe that conditions elsewhere are completely disconnected from the interests of first world multinational corporations?