Talk about a bad photoshop of a simulated screen, but they made sure to get the model's jacket open.
Reviews are one thing, but I don't want feedback from the unwashed masses about how product X contains GMO-derived cheese and Dr. Bonner's soap is fantastically worth the high price because they work to ban GMOs.
This could be a useful tool if it pulled from a database maintained by knowledgeable staff. Narrow your search by allergies or sensitivities or any other food concerns (including recalls, which they note)—totally helpful.
But crowd sourced food info? Good God that's fucking useless. I suspect the price of the app is a loss leader, the actual value in this venture will be data mining shoppers, a Safeway Clubcard for the coop set.
I don't like how they will probably sell the data but I do like how Kennedy is open about how they plan to fund it. Just like anything worthwhile, building a free platform this size takes money and time. So as long as the data stays anonymous, and they remain transparent about the whole thing, I support this effort 100%. And I bet the reason why no one else has done this (it's an obvious idea!) is that they *didn't* invite everyone to contribute, or make it free. My only beef is WHERE'S THE ANDROID VERSION?
Crowd-sourced eh?
That could easily fall prey to vested interests desirous of undermining the effectiveness. I would ask what sort of information validation / controls they have to prevent data dilution.
Do people post shitty videos on YouTube? Yes. But the good ones are there too, and they rise up through social sharing. Do people post worthless things on Twitter? Yes. But you can say what you want, find your audience, and follow users you know. Do people post crap to Reddit? Yes. But the community votes on the content to curate. Does anyone use Yelp? Yes. It's a publicly traded company with over 100 million unique visitors per month. So if these guys want to create the same thing for product information, I think that's a brilliant idea. In fact, I can't imagine any better way for people to keep informed and get more transparency. Congrats David and Scott and best of luck!
Just read the FAQ and the crowdsource idea makes perfect sense: People post shitty videos on YouTube, but the good ones are there too, and they get passed around via sharing. People post worthless things on Twitter but you can say what you want, find your audience, and follow users you know. People post crap to Reddit but the community votes on the content to curate. These companies are big for a reason. Yelp is a publicly traded company, with over 100 million unique visitors per month. So if these guys want to create the same thing for product information, I think it's brilliant, and I can't imagine a better way for people to get information and build transparency in the marketplace. Congrats David and Scott and best of luck!
@13,
I have family members all too convinced by little articles they read in Prevention magazine as being "factual" about health. The unwashed masses are not your best source for factual information... it gets drowned out by the extremely vocal crackpots. See all the posts in the Seattle Times comments area for many examples.
and click the image. You will end up at the Wikipedia file page. Try to post that link as a hyperlink using the standard anchor tag. It comes out like the above. It would be nice if this bug were fixed because sometimes the general image page contains useful information, especially on maps. There is a great SSM map that I can't post a link to because the colors are only explained on the parent page (the File page).
OK, then. I do hate having to see all the bumph every time I open comments -- the "promotions, stranger tickets, stranger perks" etc. cruft on the bottom of the page.
Also, I second ChefJoe's amusement that the promotional photo for this app has the model with her shirt open and her tit out, just to catch the viewer's eye.
On the old, functional, mobile page the story, comments, and navigation were all on one low-bandwidth page. Now it's slow loading high-bandwidth graphics and story previews with click through to comments with no navigation. It's crap for anyone on metered or slow data, or who cares about usability.
Can you web design people right-justify the Name on Date, Year at 11:11 AM - Report this line?
Having it left-justified makes it harder for the eye to read the commenter's text, because the Bold + blue draws the eye down, it's distracting.
Also, you wanna make a slog posting discussing the reformat, so that we can hurl rotten tomatoes and erudite suggestions at you? thanks!
Oh, please make the Name line smaller too, at least 2-3 point sizes. It's distractingly big.
the insta-preview is pretty damn cool though. Nice work on that.
I wish we had colored comment boxes again, instead of All White All the Time with faint lines a'tween them. *sigh*
@2 @10 @15 - I don't like the "unwashed masses" providing product information either, until I realized that OpenLabel is mixing consumer feedback with more trusted nonprofit data. They are "tying together all the databases of nonprofit materials and government recalls" because "there isn't anyone doing it". A diversity of opinion that lets you pick and choose who to follow is far better than one group talking about one issue from one perspective. And light years better than the shitty label we currently use!
Reviews are one thing, but I don't want feedback from the unwashed masses about how product X contains GMO-derived cheese and Dr. Bonner's soap is fantastically worth the high price because they work to ban GMOs.
But crowd sourced food info? Good God that's fucking useless. I suspect the price of the app is a loss leader, the actual value in this venture will be data mining shoppers, a Safeway Clubcard for the coop set.
That could easily fall prey to vested interests desirous of undermining the effectiveness. I would ask what sort of information validation / controls they have to prevent data dilution.
I have family members all too convinced by little articles they read in Prevention magazine as being "factual" about health. The unwashed masses are not your best source for factual information... it gets drowned out by the extremely vocal crackpots. See all the posts in the Seattle Times comments area for many examples.
I think the new Slog design will go over great with the younger "i'm so retarded that i read and comment on Slog" generation.
Still, I miss the green. Slog needs to be green. Here, let Ray Charles explain.
Test: this is a test to see if one of the more annoying Slog bugs is fixed. If File:Kermit_the_Frog.jpg">File:Kermit_the_Frog.jpg">this image works, it is fixed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kermit_the_…
and click the image. You will end up at the Wikipedia file page. Try to post that link as a hyperlink using the standard anchor tag. It comes out like the above. It would be nice if this bug were fixed because sometimes the general image page contains useful information, especially on maps. There is a great SSM map that I can't post a link to because the colors are only explained on the parent page (the File page).
Seriously though, I hope they have professionals reviewing this crowd sourced info.
Having it left-justified makes it harder for the eye to read the commenter's text, because the Bold + blue draws the eye down, it's distracting.
Also, you wanna make a slog posting discussing the reformat, so that we can hurl rotten tomatoes and erudite suggestions at you? thanks!
the insta-preview is pretty damn cool though. Nice work on that.
I wish we had colored comment boxes again, instead of All White All the Time with faint lines a'tween them. *sigh*