BTW, I think the laws against drinking in parks are BS too. If you're not littering or behaving like a jackass, there is no problem. Not that it's enforced.
1) Stand on the yellow line in the middle of the street. In a city, that is basically the only place you can stand still and be 25' from all buildings. Keep your hips loose to avoid rear-view mirrors.
2) You may smoke and walk on the sidewalk, but you MUST. KEEP. MOVING. Do not stop. Do not look back. A horrified gang of Bellevue woo-wives and yoga instructors will be following you, fanning their noses. You will be stomped to death by stiletto heels and toe shoes if they catch you.
3) Purchase a $1,000,000 Seattle home and smoke all you want, Captain Smelly.
I don't like smoke, but I'd rather a person go out for a smoke in park than in the apartment next door.
But I agree with @63. I don't see much point in putting yet another minor law on the books when the SPD officers routinely use their "discretion" to not enforce comparable levels of laws.
I've lived about a block from the SPD station on Virginia for 13 years and see the officers out and about on a regular basis. And only once in those years have I seen one of them jump into action: An officer stopped at a red light on 7th at Virginia ignored the white cyclist who blew past him through the red light but got out of his car a few seconds later to confront a young black man with a skateboard who crossed Virginia against the same red light.
Jesus, there are a lot of arrogant, self-righteous pricks in this city, our mayor included. For the record, I don't smoke anything. But at least I can recognize that someone smoking 100 ft away in the wind is completely irrelevant to my life.
1. Everyone already knows that smoking causes cancer. Cigarettes are already hilariously overtaxed to discourage their consumption; anyone with half a brain buys them by the carton on the reservations or out of state. Quit trying to police people's right to self-determination. What the fuck do you care?
2. Getting smoking out of indoor public places was fine, as there was significant occupational risk. I also understand the no smoking within 25 feet of entrances rule. But parks are fucking OUTSIDE in the OPEN GODDAMNED AIR. If you have a right not to ever smell tobacco as part of your entitled life in this city, then perhaps I have a right not to ever smell the stink of your weed. Get over yourselves.
3. People who drop used butts on the ground are the dregs of humanity. The way to regulate this is not by banning smoking, but by placing a little state hologram sticker on every one and collecting a $1/butt deposit, even on cigs sold at the reservations. If you want to throw that shit on the ground, it's gonna cost you. Some poor crackhead is going to clean up after your bad habits and redeem your butts.
In conclusion, people who look down their noses at others' lifestyle decisions and decide to regulate them out of existence need to promptly STFU and keep their eyes on their own papers.
If second hand smoke and other health concerns are the reasons to ban smoking in the park, then Parks &Rec should ban bonfires on the beaches. Smoke from these bonfires get so thick and acrid, it's pretty hard on the non asthmatics too. Not to mention the mess on the sand afterward.
I am highly allergic to cats, somewhat allergic to dogs and deathly allergic to horses. I need to carry my over-priced Albutorol inhaler with me at all times.I am not alone. Please Major Murray ban the aforementioned animals from all public places and find the funds in your budget to enforce this unnecessary risk to my health.
It isn't just the smoke that's the problem. Anybody have an idea how toxic and polluting hundreds, thousands, hundred of thousands of cigarette butts are to streams and rivers and oceans (which is where that shit ends up)?
@118, another redundancy in your argument. Littering is against the law already. I'm a smoker, and I dispose of my butts responsibly, especially in parks. If the litter from butts is your concern, you should advocate for more garbage cans on our city streets. If concerns about litter in parks is part of your justification for banning smoking in parks, then you should also advocate for banning other things that might create litter in a park.
If they cared about banning tobacco smoking in parks, they would have done this eons ago. This isn't even about the homeless. That's a red herring. This is really about weed. What they REALLY want is for people to not just be smoking weed out in public, now that it is legal in the state. There is a burgeoning weed-related tourist industry, etc., and the old guard do NOT want Seattle to smell like a giant burning skunk. THAT is the real issue here. They know they are losing the battle, this is all about trying to exercise the final bits of control they have over the situation.
Who's this ass clown, Heidi? Ever hear of NYC? Smoking ban has done wonders for the Big Apple, even saved lives. Apparently The Stranger is hiring morons these days.
1) Stand on the yellow line in the middle of the street. In a city, that is basically the only place you can stand still and be 25' from all buildings. Keep your hips loose to avoid rear-view mirrors.
2) You may smoke and walk on the sidewalk, but you MUST. KEEP. MOVING. Do not stop. Do not look back. A horrified gang of Bellevue woo-wives and yoga instructors will be following you, fanning their noses. You will be stomped to death by stiletto heels and toe shoes if they catch you.
3) Purchase a $1,000,000 Seattle home and smoke all you want, Captain Smelly.
4) Leave Seattle.
But I agree with @63. I don't see much point in putting yet another minor law on the books when the SPD officers routinely use their "discretion" to not enforce comparable levels of laws.
I've lived about a block from the SPD station on Virginia for 13 years and see the officers out and about on a regular basis. And only once in those years have I seen one of them jump into action: An officer stopped at a red light on 7th at Virginia ignored the white cyclist who blew past him through the red light but got out of his car a few seconds later to confront a young black man with a skateboard who crossed Virginia against the same red light.
1. Everyone already knows that smoking causes cancer. Cigarettes are already hilariously overtaxed to discourage their consumption; anyone with half a brain buys them by the carton on the reservations or out of state. Quit trying to police people's right to self-determination. What the fuck do you care?
2. Getting smoking out of indoor public places was fine, as there was significant occupational risk. I also understand the no smoking within 25 feet of entrances rule. But parks are fucking OUTSIDE in the OPEN GODDAMNED AIR. If you have a right not to ever smell tobacco as part of your entitled life in this city, then perhaps I have a right not to ever smell the stink of your weed. Get over yourselves.
3. People who drop used butts on the ground are the dregs of humanity. The way to regulate this is not by banning smoking, but by placing a little state hologram sticker on every one and collecting a $1/butt deposit, even on cigs sold at the reservations. If you want to throw that shit on the ground, it's gonna cost you. Some poor crackhead is going to clean up after your bad habits and redeem your butts.
In conclusion, people who look down their noses at others' lifestyle decisions and decide to regulate them out of existence need to promptly STFU and keep their eyes on their own papers.
Kills fish. Poisons wildlife.