Yeah, but Scalia was Texas-skinny, so no one thought a thing of it.

So we have what Taylor's family thinks of his character, but would it be possible to see what Taylor's rape, assault, and robbery victims think of his character?

Not that his character has any bearing with the details of the shooting, but if Ansel is going to claim it does, shouldn't he report all sides?

"removing barriers and hinges" - Seattle Times building, sounds like a giant glory hole!

Not only did Seattle home prices rise 10%, property taxes increased 10% in King county (aggregate) to as high as 60% in Seattle..pushing affordability further from reach.

Shorter @2: "Glad he's dead, glad it was violent, let's stop looking into this."

@1

Do we know what Scalia had for dinner that night? I bet there was steak. Maybe fettuccine alfredo with steak, and a lot of it?

What is a tech bro? I've seen various insinuations of what it is. But there's no prevailing definition, it seems to me.

that Guardian piece is stupid. Normally I would have stopped reading at "tech bros" but that's in the heading, so I read the first few paragraphs, about a mentally ill guy starting a fire. (Hint: he wasn't a "tech bro"). Whatever, bigots.

@8
I would think it's basically the youngish, educated, white collar employee or manager at one of the tech companies (including Amazon) version of a frat boy, usually a newcomer into the region..

@5 what amazing insight you have into the mind of fellow Sloggers, Kreskin. Is it okay if I call you Kreskin?

@5: No, that is not a paraphrase of @2.
@7: Wasn't it Quail? Maybe served wild rice covered with a hollandaise sauce, grilled asparagus, with a nice Pinot?

@10: Thanks. Well, there are lot of gay tech bros as well.

@9 Why don't you tell us how you really feel

Tech Bros -- notion that frat boys are tech geeks is comical.

So gays do look "gay" -- per our Gay Mayor. Nice to know. Do they smell different too?

@5: I am not the one saying his character matters, Ansel is. What you have stumbled upon is called a "rhetorical device."

Pyrethroids kill lice and bedbugs (25% of the time). You know what else they kill? Bees.

Many gay people still reside in the area around Capitol Hill but there are much fewer of those who are young and/or single because they're renters who can no longer afford the rent. I call it "gayntrification"!

@2
That's just ansel's mo. He always leaves out facts if they don't conform to the narrative he's trying to create.

@19: Trump's support appears to be demographic agnostic. If there is such a term. His support is based on frustration and fear, and that cuts a wide swath.

Looks like someone already thought of "gaytrification". Curses!

@7, 12,

I think he had liver and fava beans, served with a nice Chianti.

i watched the video: that didn't look like putting your hands up.

"County NAACP President Gerald Hankerson says Taylor put his hands in the air and was trying to comply with police orders when he was shot. "

Watch the damn video. He did not have his hands up nor was he "complying". The video clearly shows him reaching into the car for (as it turned out) his handgun. Cops like to shoot brown people, that's true and fucked up, but this guy was armed, was not complying and did not have his hands up.

@16:

Nobody said that Tech Bro = Frat Boy with a Computer Programming Degree, but Tech Bros and Frat Boys DO share many similar traits and characteristics. Both tend to be: young, male, mostly White, arrogant, self-important, entitled, and prone to gravitate toward mono-cultures where group-think, adoration of authority, and extreme predilection to social conformity are the norms.

Also, IME, gay people DON'T smell like they've been dipped cap-a-pie in Axe Body Spray, or worse, haven't showered at all in several days because they got stuck in crunch time, so that's probably one way to tell...

@15.....JonnoN is only a stone thrower.
@2.....Freedom of the press means you don't have to tell both sides.

Those aren't squatters, that's Jean Godden searching for the Seattle Times Editorial Board's lost sense of dignity.
Little does she know that it never had any.

Notice how the stranger links to a story about our terrible heroin epidemic while simultaneously lionizing a violent rapist and black tar heroin pusher? His mama and Seattle's biggest race-pimps say he was a good boy though.

@32: where's the lionizing? the NAACP is lionizing, the Stranger is reporting their comments. the end.

@30 what is your point? I don't like negative stereotypes about anyone? The article had pretty much zero evidence to back up their thesis? You're a troll who says stupid things?

The Guardian piece links rising violence in Capitol Hill to "tech bros," which is laughable. Most of those guys couldn't even lift their keyboards.

Maybe you can blame "tech bros" (and pesky market forces) for rising rents, but gay-bashing? I don't think so. As someone who lives in the neighborhood, it seems like the people who terrorize Capitol Hill on the weekends are people who don't live there. I identify them as the bridge and ferry crowd.

The bridge and ferry crowd is attracted to the neighborhood because it is Seattle's party spot right now, just like Belltown and Pioneer Square before it. They probably don't mingle with the gays back in Factoria or Tukwila or Everett or Kent (or wherever). It's not like a homophobic population has permanently moved to Capitol Hill; it's just their playground at night.

And yes, I can identify the bridge and ferry crowd just by looking at them.

Of course Microsoft grew on the east side, and the "tech bros" of those days were mostly there; save the ones that preferred to commute. If only Seattle had voted Yes to Paul Allen's "The Commons" proposal in the 90's - south Lake Union would be a pleasant park surrounded by (by now modest) townhouse instead of the Manhatteninization of Seattle gong on now.

Seems to me that most of the violent crime on Capitol Hill stems from criminals coming in from the CD and South End to rob people and sell drugs. We don't talk about that, however.

@34....You're the real troll here, like I said about all you ever do is throw stones. About 30 years ago I would have suggested you take a quaalude but those days for me are long past. I suggest that you go out for a snowmen, cherry flavor.

@37:

I'm pretty sure most people can tell the difference between being mugged, which usually entails someone demanding money or goods, and someone yelling "faggot!" before having a punch thrown at them. The latter is what we're discussing here.

COMTE @39, do you think "tech bros" are responsible for the rise in bias crimes on Capitol Hill? If you do, can you provide any factual evidence?

I'm honestly curious, and googling hasn't yielded anything.

I worked and lived for a decade with like-minded and like-acted souls--all orbiting around a central theme. It was the best of times. I reflect on the Mayor's inquiry. The political progress of mainstreaming gay life has diluted, fractured or repurposed the former clustered, insular sanctuaries of gayness. Gay life, like my life, has left the refuge of that island where we had our own language, our own jokes and ways. I moved to the larger city--to estrangement. To be now out, and proud, successful . . . and estranged: gotta feel weird, and sad. I feel ya.

Someone should tell the Mayor that a lot of gay people live all over the city now and not just in the "gay ghetto" of Capitol Hill. At the same time that I sympathize when a much loved neighborhood loses some of its character, I can also be proud that at least the gay people who live in the rest of the city can do that openly and for the most part without hassle.

@40:

I'm skeptical that Tech Bros are solely and exclusively to blame for the increase in bias crimes on the Hill, but I do think they represent a contributing factor.

Capitol Hill has been the "new Belltown" for the more traditional Bridge & Tunnel crowd for the last several years, but at the same time there has also been a huge influx of young, mostly White male, tech industry workers flooding into the area around Pike/Pine as well. In the case of the former, it's young men from smaller conservative-leaning outlying suburbs, and in the latter, young men from, in many cases, more conservative parts of WA or other states, all of whom seem to have copious amounts of disposable cash, raging libidos, few social skills or social experience outside of their narrowly-defined demographic, and even less impulse-control. They come up to the Hill every weekend (assuming they're not already living in the myriad of new construction) get shit-faced drunk, and quite a few of them freak the fuck out when they encounter anyone who isn't part of their self-selected tribe, and most particularly someone who doesn't fit into their square-peg cis-het-White male or female gender norms. I saw this all the time when I lived AND worked here, and frankly, am glad I don't have to spend as much time around here anymore, because after dark nowadays it becomes a fucking horror-show for just about anyone who isn't straight, White, and under 35.

@35,40, Yes, the "tech bros" are partly responsible, even though they're not directly committing those assaults. They're responsible for the gentrification that brings the party crowd that brings their knuckle dragging friend who gets grossed out by teh gays and lashes out the only way they know how... through violence.

@42:

That's indisputable; however, again, we were discussing one particular form of crime, namely, bias crimes against LGBTQ people.

So it's the tech bros who moved Pine over to Pike, opened all of the fancy restaurants, gentrified the bars, and opened the hetero dancy-clubby places?

The gentrification has long been in motion, has it not? The recent boom just hastened it.

@44, I share your distate with the boorish behavior of Capitol Hill's new party crowd. I endure their drunken screaming in the streets nearly every night when the bars let out, and I don't even want to hang out in my own neighborhood on the weekends. But I don't think it is fair to attribute violence in any way to "tech bros." My primary reason? There is really no evidence of that.

I've been through the last year on the police blotter from SPD's East Precint today. There are no identifiable "tech bros" living in Capitol Hill listed in the arrests or reports of bias crimes. There are many people identifiably not "tech bros," and also offenders and accomplices that are women.

When it comes to violence and bias crimes, it is clear that "tech bros" are not the culprits. Let me know if you find any evidence otherwise, but that profile simply doesn't fit.

Of course, you are "skeptical that Tech Bros are solely and exclusively to blame" but you think they "represent a contributing factor." So are we talking about actual violence committed, or gentrification in general?

If we're talking about gentrification (as you do), the you can lay blame at the feet of many people: Business interests (Amazon, Microsoft, developers etc.), governmental forces (the City Council, the Mayor's Office, DPD, among others) and even media (the Stranger was generally pro-development for a while). But why stop there? Why not blame DARPA for creating the internet and therefore enabling e-commerce?

The blame game gets pretty ridiculous rapidly when it comes to gentrification. And, frankly, it is pointless. Seattle is going to continue growing whether we like it or not. And we are all better off when Seattle's economy is humming along, though it might require some civic activism to make sure no one gets left behind.

If you are interested in keeping Capitol Hill (and the City of Seattle) livable and affordable for everyone, you are better off advocating for affordable workforce housing and low-income housing.

If you want to decrease violent crimes, advocate for better mental health services, education and programs for the homeless. Nothing enables crime more than desperation and ignorance.

Blaming "tech bros" for the problems on Capitol Hill is lazy and prejudiced. They are just people like you and me, trying to live their lives. Maybe they are generally assholes (I'm not convinced of that either), but they shouldn't be convenient scapegoats that enable people to ignore real problems.

@comte - show one arrest report/bews report thats shows a hate crime by a "tech bro". The one in the article (neighbors arson) wasn't a tech bro, but was done for religious beliefs (islam). Same with Ali Brown, he murdered two gay men because of islam. The five white guys that attacked the black guy, all known criminals from outside Seattle who came to Seattle for folklife. The guy ( Ibrahim Koroma) who made death threats to the r place bouncer, known criminal, not tech worker. Ivan Prokhorin, who attack two gay men with a baseball bat, tile layer from auburn.

"Contributing factor" doesn't have to mean "perpetrator", but all one has to do is visit Pike/Pine on any given weekend evening to see the absolute circus it's become, and a large part of that is lots of newly-relocated tech workers (often easy to spot because apparently they like wearing logo'd polo shirts and office lanyards as tribal markings) throwing around cash, drinking until they puke, yelling, weaving in packs down the middle of streets, littering, blocking sidewalks, harassing people, and generally behaving like drunken Frat Boys on Spring Break to the point that the logos and lanyards are about the only things that allow one to tell the difference - every fucking weekend. Go see for yourself.

So yeah, it would be a rash generalization to say they're all to blame for these assaults - many of which go unreported, I expect - but, even if it's a small minority, they're still out there and their sheer numbers definitely provide cover for those who do, and THAT is what I mean by "contributing factor".

@53 so you can't then.

Also I avoid the hill on the weekends, too much of a shot show, but everytime im up there it seem like a large group of ppl and all the parking lots are full, lots of out of towners/uvilliage.

*shit show

@comte if tech bros, as you clam are out there doing hate crimes on the hill, back that clam up.

Three of the worst hate crimes where done by muslims, but nobody with half a mind is going to claim the problem with the hill is due to muslims.

But most reporting on hate crimes goes, lots of crime on the hill, lots of tech people on the hill, hey now with no evidence lets claim tech people are doing the hate crimes!

Of course theres a lot of young tech people on the hill, developers and the stranger has spent the last 10 years turning the hill into party mountain, and the city has done fuck all to police it or even make sure it has decent light streets (i'm so tired of developers being allowed to tear down all the lights on the streets while they're building and turn it into a muggers paradise).

The hill a bad place to be on the weekend, but blaming the tech bros everything doesn't help

*claim

@53, We are nearly on the same page. I don't think it is fair to place blame on tech bros for the gentrification of Capitol Hill, but I agree that naming them as the culprits in bias crimes committed is a rash generalization.

I don't have to make much effort to see for myself; my front door is literally one minute away from Pike. I walked to Bimbos for dinner, and the crowd on the streets was actually pretty diverse. Not exactly a "tech bro" hellscape tonight, but it is only Wednesday. ;)

An article along the lines of "Does gentrification lead to hate crimes/increased violence?" would be an interesting discussion.

But The Stranger and others have put a single face on the violence, leading The Guardian article to write nuggets such as this:

"Long-term Capitol Hill residents don’t know how to stop this influx of violence. But for some, the culprits are easily identifiable: 'tech bros'."

And that's some lazy bullshit.

@42: We punish hate crimes more severely than the same crime committed without the prejudicial motivation for the same reason that we punish cross-burning more severely than illegal burning of trash.

@61, Nice misdirect. Bias crimes are more serious because they intend to threaten and intimidate a larger class of people than the individual victim.