This time, with the cringeworthy promo video, some anarchists seem to be saying to the police: This is what we want. Bring it on. We want to fight you.
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This has to be trolling, right?
I don't think this is the appealing advertisement for your ideology that you think it is. I like my "oppressive" and window-filled present.
How about the following guidelines for the march - anyone with a mask has to take it off and leave it off, anyone with rocks, sticks, tire irons, hammers, or anything not related to a holding a sign is summarily pointed out to the police as "this is a motherfucker intent on smashing shit", and the rest of us agree to watch videos of peaceful demonstrators.
Thinking of all the ways we (I) try and fail at dating the Anarchies might be on to something.
That's what these petulant little children playing goth revolutionary Cosplay have ALWAYS been saying. You've just finally started to gain the maturity to recognize it. In a couple of years you might even join the rest of the civilized world and see them for the joke the they are.
[I miss his work.]
@19: http://www.seattletimes.com/author/brend… 😢
Considering that a number of the local visible anarchist elements have put notable effort into promoting this simplistic "ACAB" concept ("all cops are bastards") on posters & graffiti around town, and have organized torchlight parades past Police Depts. on Oct 22nds, I'd say a number of them are spoiling for a fight with the cops...
...which is the most short-sighted & idiotic "strategy" ever. 1) The cops will win. 2) You will have your name/ mug/ prints in their system. 3) The public will recoil from what appears to be random destruction. 4) Nothing will change. Oh, except the cops will breathe down your necks all the more, making your life harder.
Good job, you've now simply increased the system's pressure on your own head. What next?
If there is some greater message to "confronting" the police, it is lost on those of us who can also see the bullshit in the system and who also strive to work towards greater liberation for all.
Fighting cops is terrible agit-prop, has negative outcomes for everyone, and makes no change. Why do it?
I'm glad I'm going to be out of town this weekend. Christ.
These events are not about protesting anything for the window-smashers, they are all about going out and feeding their own egos. Fighting cops is a status symbol for them.
The tone police, they come to me in my bed
The tone police, they're coming to arrest me, oh no!
Sorry. That was a cheap trick.
Bullshit. Anarchism is by definition solely destructive. It's right there in the word itself: "an" = without + "archos" = ruler. Anarchism is opposition to any and all forms of political/civic authority. And those favoring anarchy are invariably those who are so accustomed to the rule of law that they take it for granted and no longer perceive the most basic benefits of government. They're no different than the Tea Partiers complaining about taxes while driving their government-certified car on the government-maintained roads to deposit their government-backed currency at the government-insured bank.
@30: Don't give yourself away!
The syndicalist offshoot of anarchism has been dead for almost 100 years now, and never had anything to do with the word's etymology.
Have you forgotten about all the fights* between unions and anarchists in Seattle over even just the past decade, let alone the past century?
* Fights involving what you call "real" violence, too. As if intimidation (via, e.g. property damage) were not a form of violence anyone should find any reason to oppose.
Ansel, you are a twit. You have no compunction against bending the truth to fit whatever opinion happens to float through your head in a given day. In toto you are callow and naive and yet oddly conniving, apparently ignorant of how transparent your deliberate skewing of the facts is to a moderately educated reader.
Using a Wikipedia page for evidence is bad enough for a "journalist," but to use one that you did not even bother to read? My god man.
@41: We call that "low cunning." Not smart enough to actually convince anyone of anything or make a solid point, but smart enough to fool morons into thinking he can.
Oh hey, here's a surprise. A contemporary anarchist wants you to ignore the history of anarchism? Gosh I wonder why. And also the discouse now should be tightly controlled by the anarchist, with widely understood meanings of terms nullified and replaced in deference to the authority of the contemporary anarchist?
My god, man, you people are the world's richest irony mine.
With the number vibrant anarchistic nation-scale institutions thriving in the world as an example, surely it will be a smooth, painless transition to model our system on one of those.
Which ones are they again?
Anarchists are the LARPers of politics.
geeze, RS, didja read the link I sent out? History is what me an anarchist, as the narrative of this article will tell you, we control almost nothing of the discourse around the terms and definitions the state institutions and the media paint us with. and @38, an anarchist nation state would be the last thing we would create as a vibrant example of what we believe. If you bothered to talk to any anarchist outside of a mayday event, you'd get the nuances of the thing. But that would be straying from the media narrative Ansel is selling wouldn't it?
Ansel, for the record, I think you are exactly as brave as you are trustworthy. But if you really think I'm too critical, please talk to Charles Mudede. I've said far more negative things about him over the years, and he's learned to live with it.
I'll summarize: Classical anarchism peaked in 1910, after the assassination of Pres. McKinley by an "anarchist" and WWI state suppression of radical political ideals, anarchism merged with anti-war pacifists and labor radicals of the depression era. Post WWII politics molded the movement even further with literary and philosophical influences, Mass movements imploded following the vietnam war era, spurring a further revision of the tenets of anarchism with christian and gandhian civil rights veterans. The entire self definition of anarchist has moved from a party style revolutionary movement to a collective based autonomous action philosophy,
The newly initiated of course have their own idea of what Anarchy means: running wild in the streets once a day clad in fashionable black hoodies and scarves. Can you blame them? their future is looking increasingly bleak, our crumbling meritocracy is now trying to make believe we can democratically choose a president, wage inequality is at an all time high. People need something to believe in, anarchism is mine.
One of these clowns took his wooden dowel (sp?) and shoved me back out of the way with it, like he was well-versed in its use. These so-called 'anarchists' are as likely to be infiltrators and provocateurs employed or freelancing for some shadow groups in the govt/corporate power structure, than actual protesters. Young people need to brush up on the history of the Black Panthers and other 60-70s political groups as to how this breed of phonies are used to dilute the organizations and sully the image of true protest, as well as drag newbies into stupid criminal acts like smashing car windows.
The media immediately brand them as anarchists as well, since most people find the concept of anarchy laughable, and the brand changes the topic and ends the conversation about why the protest is happening in the first place.
The fundamental concept of anarchism is the absence of a state, of any sort of authority. This is an entirely untenable fantasy, which is why anarchism is an ideology subscribed to mainly by starry-eyed ideologues and embittered narcissists. In your eagerness to rid yourselves of the burdens of the nation-state, you forget that there is very little distance between "collective" and "mob", between "autonomous" and "lawless", and between "philosophy" and "dogma".
And hey, maybe if you anti-war anarchist types had gotten your way back in the '30s, I might have even FEWER relatives alive today.