News Jun 24, 2016 at 9:15 am

Watch Out for I-1515 Signature Gatherers

Sydney Brownstone
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Here's an idea: Don't sign initiative petitions. Ever. The initiative process, which was intended to be grassroots democracy, has been purchased and corrupted. Even if a petition is for a good cause, it still endorses a broken system.
DOUG. on June 24, 2016 at 9:21 AM Report this
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I kick initiative petition pushers for fun. And then pepper spray them while screaming they are invading my safe space
Cato the Younger Younger on June 24, 2016 at 9:30 AM Report this
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@1: i'll think about that next time I'm selecting which exotic hybridized strains I'll smoke legally in my home and backyard.

will I-1515 petitioners even show their faces anywhere near Seattle? they can probably collect the required signatures at evangelical churches in rural WA and Spokane.
Max Solomon on June 24, 2016 at 9:41 AM Report this
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@3: Cool, bro. Who cares about our fucked up taxation system or Charter schools? You got your weed.
DOUG. on June 24, 2016 at 9:53 AM Report this
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@4: i do care about those things. I didn't vote for charter schools and our shit tax system is baked into the cake - no state income tax.

initiatives aren't going anywhere. unless you start an initiative to end initiatives. i'll sign it now that I've got my weed.

bro.
Max Solomon on June 24, 2016 at 10:15 AM Report this
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So are the first few petitions just a ploy then? Do they just throw those away?
Urgutha Forka on June 24, 2016 at 11:12 AM Report this
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That may be the worst use of stock imagery I've ever seen on Slog. Really necessary?
I Got Nuthin' on June 24, 2016 at 11:29 AM Report this
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The initiative system is a sham, since prop. 13 destroyed California its been a downhill slide. Any gajillionaire can essentially buy legislation to order.
Polyphemus on June 24, 2016 at 11:44 AM Report this
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Honestly if I run into one of these assholes I might just take their signatures and run.
tmplknght on June 24, 2016 at 11:59 AM Report this
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What's stopping you from just writing on the petition form, "This is about hate, pure and simple." Or whatever words you chose to use. Then carefully read it back to the signature gatherer.
Some Old Nobodaddy Logged In on June 24, 2016 at 12:23 PM Report this
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"Why yes, my name is spelled with dicks, and my address is a doodle of jizz all over the page, why do you ask."
MacCrocodile on June 24, 2016 at 12:28 PM Report this
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@6 probably not. I'm not sure if they're paid signature gatherers, but it'd make sense if they were and just wanted to get as many petitions signed as possible. I'm kind of curious exactly the nature of the involvement, having run into them and this exact issue last weekend.

@11 LOL
hexalm on June 24, 2016 at 12:58 PM Report this
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@1
Ah yes. The system is broken so I refuse to participate. I am also angry that things happen which I don't support and can't understand why things happen when I don't participate. I also am confused when people propose less than perfect changes to the system. I want all or nothing.

Enjoy staying home this November and seething with righteous indignation.
tempo36 on June 24, 2016 at 3:51 PM Report this
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@1 It's more like you should always be aware of what you are supporting when you sign. For petition gatherers paid by the signature, the content of the measure they are hawking may make little difference to their financial success that day ...
Question.Mark on June 24, 2016 at 4:20 PM Report this
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@13: I'm pretty sure I "participate" at a level beyond 99% of my fellow Americans. Signing a petition is about the laziest level of engagement possible, which is why so much Initiatives forge shitty policy.
DOUG. on June 24, 2016 at 5:30 PM Report this
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@14: Paid signature gathering should be illegal.
DOUG. on June 24, 2016 at 5:31 PM Report this
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@10
I think it's actually illegal to do that. How far anyone would go to pursue you might be up in the air, but you'd be exposing yourself to legal action from someone who would have a camera on them and who's working for a vindictive group of people.
seatackled on June 24, 2016 at 5:34 PM Report this
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There was a someone passing off I-1505 as a petition to protect seniors in front of the Central District grocery outlet yesterday. Don't sign anything you haven't read for yourself!
LLenore on June 24, 2016 at 6:54 PM Report this
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It's called "paid signature gatherers". They don't care about the causes, they just care about getting a paycheck for pushing them. They'd circulate petitions to join the ISIS caliphate if someone paid them to do it.
Blackcap on June 25, 2016 at 8:00 AM Report this
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They're at the Greenwood car show. Right now.
Seaside on June 25, 2016 at 1:57 PM Report this
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Two paid signature gatherers were pushing I-1515 -- under a stack of gun-control and other progressive causes -- around 2pm at the corner of 11th & Pike at the Gay Pride block party. They claimed not to know that it was anti-trans, and that they had been told by the person who hired them that it was to protect trans rights.
Molly2 on June 25, 2016 at 7:02 PM Report this
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I ran into one of these people recently. After signing all of these progressive petitions, I had to read this one three times before I understood that this was an anti-trans initiative and I was stunned. I handed the clipboard back to the guy. He said, "You're not signing that one?" I told him, over my dead body.
JESilverstein on June 26, 2016 at 2:09 PM Report this

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