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And just how does it throw "communities of color" under the bus? Is there some special non-white people's tax levied as part of it?
1. Doing nothing (which is the alternative to i732) is totally irresponsible to the ppl most likely to hurt by climate change, which is mostly p.o.c. locally and globally
2. I732 has the biggest antipoverty tax change in WA in forty+ years
3. When polled, a majority of POC support i732..
4. I732 doesn't mean we can't do more later
I'm glad the stranger endorsed. I'm voting yes.
@SECB: Can you nice white Capitol Hill kids please stop talking about "communities of color?"
The genius of a revenue-neutral carbon tax lies in its simplicity and common sense. But its simplicity and its common sense also present its great political challenge. Kinda like why Social Security would be so difficult to enact in our day and age. Unlike cap-and-trade there's no gaming the system, if only because there's no system to be gamed, so you don't have the Wall Street Goldman Sachs constituency on board. And unlike panaceas like "Hey, let's just invest more in clean energy," there's a recognition with a revenue-neutral carbon tax that you don't get something for nothing. Yes, it is a tax. Yes, it addresses a market failure through a market-based mechanism.
And really, there's nothing more offensive to some special interests than plowing the tax savings right back straight to be people, with no middle-men to siphon off the proceeds.
Without knowing much about I-732 for a while, I was taken aback by the complicated arguments against it, but then it eventually dawned on me that the arguments weren't about flaws in I-732; they were the same, old complicated criticisms of revenue-neutral carbon taxes in general.
1. It stigmatizes and profiles people with mental illness as being dangerous and violent whereas 95-97% of all violent crimes are committed by persons without mental illness.
2. It ignores new and existing laws, including "Joel's Law" passed in 2015 that already empowers families to petition courts for involuntary "treatment" of loved ones in a medical facility.
3. It doesn't provide a treatment model - it simply takes firearms away from a person and provides no support or help for them. Proponents claim it will reduce suicide citing Connecticut's firearm removal law which is completely different and includes a treatment model which takes 55% of the defendants directly for treatment.
4. It compromises Due Process including allowing for immediate lower court hearings without the accused being notified or present to defend themselves.
For more information please visit https://know1491.org for this "lone" viewpoint.
Thank you for your consideration.
Undecided about which of the two women running for President to vote for. May just flip a coin after tonight's debate
-changed her views on different issues for LGBT people at least twice
- from The Olympian's endorsement of Chris Reykdal:
"Despite her enthusiasm for education, Jones missed several opportunities to vote on public school bonds or levies for North Thurston Public Schools, where her children were enrolled. Reykdal has used this to question her commitment to local schools, but Jones quickly acknowledged to us that she was “irresponsible” not to vote."
In other words, she wants you to vote for her but couldn't be bothered - several times - to vote for school levies.
- two ed reform PACs and Vulcan have paid $167,600 for a mailer in support of Erin Jones. This action comes out of national Stand for Children office in Portland, Oregon.
Here is how it breaks down:
-$50,000 from Stand for Children Inc.
-$9,000 from League of Education Voters PAC (Education Voters Political Action Fund)
-$108,600 from Vulcan Inc.
This is the second-largest independent expenditure so far this election season, after a $194,300 IE from No on I-732 people.
- she's using a former lobbyist for Stand for Children, a notorious ed reform group AND hired Christian Sinderman's group to work on her campaign.
Vote for Chris Reykdal - he has the skill set for an executive job, understands what it means to be an low-income student, and is consistent with all his statements on issues, including LGBT ones.
But hey, the internet can always use more articles like this that outline the ravings of madmen.
We don't have 10 years to wait for them to come out with a "better" plan. YES on I-732.
They're NOT! Every reliable study that's been done has shown that the seriously mentally ill are more likely to be victims of a violent crime than the perpetrators.
So right there the idea that it will make Washington "safer" goes out the window.
What 1491 DOES do is erode Due Process by setting the precedent that someone can be stripped of a constitutional right without a chance to defend themselves in court.
While many people claim that it protects Due Process by requiring a hearing there is no requirement that the subject of the hearing be notified much less allowed to attend. That's NOT a safeguard.
I hope The Strangers editorial staff remembers that precedents cut two ways, by endorsing 1391 your setting the stage for all sorts of rights to be curtailed in the future, maybe by a guy named Trump...
YES. Let's pass I732 and get a monumental carbon tax passed in Washington and then we'll keep right on pushing. I732 will be a huge momentum boost to the environmental movement, effectively reduce our emissions, AND do it all by giving money back to Washingtonians! Absolutely worth it. Thank you Stranger for endorsing!
Washington State is already the WORST in the entire country for taxing the poor - worse than Alabama, Florida and every southern state. Yet The Stranger wants to dig us even deeper in the hole. This is an $18,000 tax for every man, woman and child in the region. And only 1 in 100 people will use it.
I'm all for intelligent mass transit, with an organization that can be monitored for incompetence. This proposal is just a black hole for taxes, with more empty promises that many of us will never see turned into reality. Who doesn't think these fools will come back again in a few years, asking for more money? How much over budget from the original proposal is this latest version? Don't look to The Stranger for these answers. They don't have any.
And speaking of holes - what happens to this project when the next 9.0+ mega earthquake hits? The entire tunnel system get crushed like a beer can under the foot of a drunk hipster. All $54 billion dollars gone in an instant.
Reject this folly.
Ah yes, the "intelligent" mass transit system designed by people who hate mass transit. Let me guess. Buses, buses, and more buses! I'm sure you'll be out there campaigning for our new bus system. Just like you'll be fighting for that progressive tax system you're apparently such a champion of.
And about that 9.0 earthquake. If you maintain that a brand-new light rail corridor built to the latest earthquake standards isn't going to hold up, how the heck is anything else going to hold up? If you're that afraid of an earthquake, maybe it's time to move inland. Or do we live in a magical place where the only infrastructure susceptible to an earthquake is transit infrastructure and the only public agency guilty of incompetence is the transit agency?
Wait a minute though. If the ST3 projects are never going to become a reality anyway, as you're so confident, then maybe we don't need to worry about that infrastructure being destroyed by an earthquake.
Keep up the good work!
When Republican Bush prepared for his war of aggression against Iraq, progressives were out protesting in the streets in the thousands.
When Democrat Clinton announces plans for her war of aggression against Syria, progressives a̶g̶a̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶a̶k̶e̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶t̶r̶e̶e̶t̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶r̶i̶g̶h̶t̶e̶o̶u̶s̶ ̶a̶n̶g̶e̶r̶ vote for her.
tsk tsk
So, you wouldn't want Jimmy Carter running OSPI? Don't be such a bigot.
"I never knew of any word or action of Jesus Christ that discriminated against anyone"-Jimmy Carter, September 2014, Colorado
SEAMEC Questionnaire of Erin Jones
19. Do you support legislation that would prohibit Conversion Therapy (reparative therapy) on
minors?
[ ] YES [ X ] NO
DelBene is running against Robert J. Sutherland.
I do not support giving the Juvy center ANY money. I agree that we must starve these people to death & force them to let them out. That's how bad it is.
Since this is position in the House of Representatives, I'd also like very clear evidence with respect to candidate's views on single payer health care, taking money from any of these interests - and whether they are committed on that front not to accept certain compromising funds; also opposition to NAFTA and the TPP, and their positions on foreign policy matters.
How do we NOT have any discussion of these issues. Love Bernie but I'm not parking my brain at the door for him, either. And certainly not for the Stranger which has made such horrendous recommendations in the last election and was a total sell-out to the corporate wing of the Democratic Party.
Also - saying that she'll lead the next charge for an Obama - say WHAT ?? Obama is one of the reasons we're not voting for Clinton.
We've had with the corporate baloney.
http://www.erinjones2016.org/lgbtq_stanc…
Trading Due Process for "safety" has a lousy track record.
If we start picking out groups and saying they aren't entitled to their rights pretty soon none of us will have them..
No on 1491!
POS like Hillary Clinton...?
Iconic, legendary, committed, heroic and truth-telling would have been much more appropriate and accurate. Of course, if your writer's "historical knowledge" extends back no further than Y2K and The Florida Chads---and no, the latter was not an emerging Hip Hop group in South Beach---what the hell can be expected.
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The Jayapal's response to Walkinshaw's recent ads:
https://medium.com/@CaptainStack/the-bul…
An in-depth look at Jayapal's attendance and her campaign's claims about it:
https://medium.com/@CaptainStack/roll-ca…
Apparently, the editors at the Stranger are too young to remember the near weekly scandals with the Clinton Whitehouse.
Hillary needs to wear convict orange, not the mantel of power.....
As for local elections, Jay is a proven idiot whose term in office has been plagued with neglect. He is more concern about being green than being Governor.
All Measures, Initiatives, and proposals on the 2016 ballot should be rejected.
They are poorly written, cost too much, likely unconstitutional or take away too much freedom from citizens.
BTW: Don't vote for any incumbent Supreme Court Justice. ..they clearly do not understand the WA or US Constitution.
I'd like to support the public transporation measure but the Stranger's support for the last one really stuck us with high and unfair car tabs. We're paying almost another 100 dollars and we watch people get on the same buses from Shoreline who paid nothing. While we're riding too.
I was so mad at this paper for endorsing that idiotic proposition.
Would have liked to support this one, but we cannot go with anything that hits us on car tabs after the amount ours went up, no thanks to the Stranger's irresponsible endorsements - typical pseudo liberals without any feeling for people who are getting economically hurt by their selfish arrogance.
And yes - we voted for Jill Stein. Not war mongering, anti-single payer, pro-job killing trade deals Clinton.
Also note that your own Dan Savage has broken with your board to endorse Brady Walkinshaw:
http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2016/10/…
Finally, Walkinshaw's endorsement of Kshama Sawant's opponent shows he is in touch with his district. Sawant is a fierce and effective proponent of policies with national implications - such as the minimum wage - that also support her "brand" but is unresponsive to district concerns, eg traffic safety, transit routes and petty crime. Her former opponent, Pamela Banks, has a greater investment in the quality of life in our neighborhoods and city. Walkinshaw has the temperment, and progressive and pro-environment policies to make a difference in Washington DC - just read Savage's withering take-down of Jayapal. She does not even live in the district she is asking to represent.
Consider the intellect of a person voting for Donald Trump AND in a state where Trump has literally a 3 percent chance of winning. What in the world is stopping this individual from voting for a economically conservative candidate who isn't a foaming-at-themouth racist, misogynistic, narcissistic sociopath?
He could be voting for the registered write-in conservative independents McMullin and Finn, among other counted conservative candidates who are capable of standing on a stage without talking about the size of their genitals - and. who don't think they have a right to sexually assault women because they're "rich stars."
There ARE other options. So what does he gain by voting for a disgusting slob bully who demoralizes and demeans women, African Americans, Native Americans, protesters, politically left people, disabled people, Mexicans, latinos, Jews, Muslims, hey - just about anyone if they have a vulnerable target of some kind.
When do your editors decide to get off the dumb-ass choo-choo train you ride for every damn election saying, "We must vote for the two party system." "We must support candidates who do, too. Even if they're going with Neo-Nazis!"
Do NOT vote for this individual. WRITE IN THE BERNIECRAT ENDORSEMENT FOR ERIC MILLER. Don't park your brain for this pseudo-left newsprint with an increasingly poor track record. Their endorsements are incredibly irresponsible.
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