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1
I think that's a little bit of overreach for landlords to be REQUIRED to do that. And besides: when you move in anyplace every damn business in the country can find you (looking at you Bed Bath and Beyond!) with welcome to the neighborhood information.

Why doesn't the Secretary of State use similar information along with the county to provide people who recently move information on updated voter registration information or simply registering to vote?

This proposal really should end up in court.
2
I guess? I mean, at the end of the day, its more realistically its just going to get buried in a packet of move-in paperwork and the tenant will follow-up or not. My larger question is why, of all the more urgent issues pressing the housing crisis in Seattle, this is getting pushed as a thing? Can we maybe do something that's a little more meaningful to the people who can't afford to live in this city in the short term?
3
@2 because voting is.... super important? this is basic civic outreach here people, and it's literally another print out that goes with your packet on black mold (which i GUARANTEE most renters aren't getting anyway) so what an extra 10 minutes of work per year for your apt manager? Give me a break

also you want to get "more meaningful" things done for renters? Getting them registered to vote is a great way to make that happen, durr
4
You know, it's entirely possible that some regulations we place on landlords may well be overly burdensome, such that they have unintended negative consequences. Perhaps caps on move-in fees will lead to higher credit score requirements, etc. I don't know. What I do know is that when landlords complain about something like this, they significantly reduce the likelihood of anyone taking them seriously when they do have a worthwhile point about the costs and consequences of some regulation.
8
The "hyperventilating" characterization is a bit much.

I mean, wasn't the Stranger staff recently up in arms over the paperwork required to set up an DADU? If the Stranger thinks important stuff like documenting code compliance and the like is overly burdensome for prospective landlords, then why isn't this proposal at least somewhat objectionable?
9
Seems like the Christian thing to do.
10
Everybody has to change their address to get paper mail. Let the post office do it! I asked my letter carrier if he hated all that junk mail they have to deliver. He said no, they love junk mail because it keeps them in jobs. Every single one of my tenants at one time or another has gotten a delivery. Make Amazon do it! Why should managers/landlords be saddled down with this since we're already baby-sitting people with multiple problems half the time and drowning in paperwork!
11
Jeez, the action at move-in doesn't even change: hand 'em a folder. The folder just has one additional thing in it. The end. What kind of emotionally tender snowflake needs to get upset about this?
12
"lazy fucks are salivating over making someone else do their work for them".
13
If you can' t be bothered to register (and it's not that fucking hard--everywhere you go someone is registering people) you obviously aren't qualified to vote.
14
I think it's a nice, civic-minded initiative. I'll go it one better: Why not get automatically registered when you open a utility account? That would get everyone from the Snohomish county line to down by the airport.

Better yet, make it a state law. Make every utility do it.
15
Sawant is a troll -- a classical troll, not one of today's online stalker-harassers -- in the tradition of Jonathan Swift. She knows how to say precisely the thing that the biggest assholes can't ignore, making them reveal their true colors in spite of themselves.

Pieces. Of. Paper. Another piece of paper. Piece-of-paper-gate. The piece of papercaust. Piece of papgergedden.

They know exactly what this is about. The easier it is to vote, the harder it is for oligarchs and plutocrats and fascists to win. Higher voter turnout means more public services, less inequality, less freedom for money to roll over the needs of the majority. They know.
16
@13's right.
17
Brilliant !! At the moment, and for the foreseeable future, I detest Sawant, but this is creative and elegant. As Katalina says, it's a "nice, civic-minded initiative", but its also hard, potentially impacting, politics.

For those of you against it, well, we know who wants to depress the vote and why. What it says about you as Americans ain't pretty.

To bad Sawant didn't spend more of last year grinding on local stuff like this - instead of the time she put into campaigning for Trump.
18
@15's right (and left).
21
Is Sawant an American citizen?
22
Wow, this is like one of those red tablets you show to make your dental plaque show up disgustingly obviously. Do they still do that? Look at all this dental plaque here!
23
So many different ways to register to vote, not even sure why this would even be needed. Sure its important to register to vote and later actually vote, but ive never heard of anyone struggling to register to vote in this state.
24
Why leave it just to landlords? How about when you buy a condo or a house shouldn't the seller be required to provide voter registration. Even have them fill out the form for you. Oh wait, even better, every time you buy a coffee the barista should hand you a packet. Oh and pot shops too! They should have voter registration info available every time you buy some weed. And Donut Shops! think of all the missed opportunities! Book stores. Bars. Bus drivers. Uber. Amazon Prime
25
I get why the city council would require landlords to take deposit payment over a period of time.

But requiring landlords to give voter registration to new tenants...will this even survive a court challenge...I doubt it. Are there sanctions agains landlords for not providing the documentation?

You can fucking register to vote online...this isn't the job of the landlord, this is your job, voter.

26
Since we're all concerned about pieces of paper and responsibilities, why not make sure landlords provide toilet paper and verify its proper use? If you personally can't be bothered to get yourself registered and vote, wiping your own rear would be a problem.
27
I agree with the comments of both @15 and @26, and see no inconsistency between them.
29
Why leave it just to landlords? How about when you buy a condo or a house shouldn't the seller be required to provide voter registration. Hell they should have to fill out the form for you. Oh wait, even better, every time you buy a coffee the barista should hand you a packet. Oh and pot shops too! They should have voter registration info available every time you buy some weed. And Donut Shops! think of all the missed opportunities!
30
If you can't be bothered to seek out how to register you are probably the person that will, once registered, poke blindly at D's and R's, won't be bothered to read the entirety of the initiatives then proudly proclaim "I'm helping!".
31
@21
More American than you.
33
@29, if only we require everyone to carry various forms of paperwork around with them so they can be spot checked by cops asking to "see your papers". Then if you don't have papers, like your voter registration card, they can pull you off the bus and beat you to death right there on the corner of 3rd and Pine?

Oh, let's add this to the mix: mandatory voting! If you don't vote we can execute you right there in front of your family!

Damn, freedom is truly wonderful!!!! Glory to Socialism!!!
34
If someone is too lazy to register to vote (after a whole year?! WTF?!), is that person going to put any effort into researching the ballot and make an informed decision? Proposals like this promote civic laziness, not engagement. This is a waste of time and tax dollars when other issues are way more pressing.
35
As long as this requirement is something voluntary and not enforced it would be okay. But if any enforcement or added cost is involved - it should be done by the government or it's volunteers.
36
I think this is both a solid idea and a huge pain in the butt for a majority of landlords.

My only question is, if you have a valid ID, why do you need to register to vote at all? Why the need for a 2nd registration?
37
So we're all clear that landlords just don't want people to vote because there's already a stack of papers they have to go through and explain to you so "this is a voter registration form, initial here that i have provided that to you" isn't that big of a deal.
38
I agree this is dumb. The city council has better things to do.

They know this will upset landlords, rightly or wrongly, so its kinda just trolling them. Not helpful.
39
@3 It took me a whole day for my eyes to stop rolling in my head. Stop being obtuse.

People will register to vote or they will not. A voter registration form in a move-in packet will probably not make the needle jump any further than it wouldn't if it were absent. There is nothing about that this that actually substantiates its worth the time and waste of paper when you consider that there are 1) voter registration drives are a nice, feel-good thing that won't necessarily equate to people actually bothering to vote when its time to vote and 2) there's a short list of emergency issues around affordable and fair housing in the city and the entire process to get something on a ballot in any election takes time, which is not a luxury for a lot of people being actively driven out of Seattle by the cost of living can afford
40
Isn't it insulting to assume your new tenant, a person presumably holding down at least some sort of job, hell, even raising kids - needs help with this matter? I swear, Seattle's city leaders want only the dumbest of dumb fucks inhabiting the city. If I was renting an apt. and the landlord did that to me, I'd shove it up their ass for insinuating I need their help for such a simple thing.

While they are at it, why don't landlords give new tenants a little speech on the evils of drinking soda as well?
42
What I do know is that when landlords complain about something like this, they significantly reduce the likelihood of anyone taking them seriously when they do have a worthwhile point about the costs and consequences of some regulation.

Well-put. I just add it goes triple for the pearl-clutchers in this thread.
43
@19 Yes, I know landlords in their landlord role aren't trying to suppress the vote, but its pretty clear that dissuading certain kinds of people from voting is VERY important to you in your role as a member of our society.

Isn't it interfering with employers to make them require proof of citizenship when all they want to do is hire the best qualified candidate for their need?. Its a lot of paper work. It's anti-business and anti-capitalist and anti-American!! Hell, let the government keep track of its own frickin' borders instead of causing extra work for employers.


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