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Whoa, a three-time loser?

While I'm bent to round up a number of false allegations as stemming from the ends-justify-the-means leg of modern feminist ideology and it's accordant Social Media Attention Economy, I'd wager this woman is simply mentally unwell and needs treatment.

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No way!!!!!! But, but, but I thought all the metoo accusations were 100% legit! I mean, even various sloggers said so!

Fuck the evidence, it’s time to tear this guy down on social media anyway!! Beside, he’s a white male....and a cop! After him ladies!!! Long live metoo!!!!

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@2 give Slog some time...they'll go after him

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@2 - But, but...I thought any woman could accuse any man and destroy him! No way to clear his name. Due process is dead. Judge, jury...

Huh. Imagine that. An accusation was reviewed and overturned. Maybe #metoo (aka: women saying things) is not the end of the world for responsible penis owners.

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See, that’s how the justice system works. But when you metoo freaks get jumpy and cum too quick on social media, you end up bypassing the justice system, and the damage is done.

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@6 - What damage? Which men do you believe have been falsely accused? When I ask this, all I get is: Duke Lacrosse team; but they were exonerated, just like the police chief here. They prove that the justice system isn’t being bypassed at all. As for the other cases, most have been workplace violations, not criminal. Time for a quick recap?

Louis C. K.? Admitted the allegations were true.
Weinstein? “Stuff happened, but it wasn’t rape.”
Lauer? Workplace investigation upheld allegations.
Rose? Workplace investigation upheld allegations.
Moonves? Workplace investigation upheld allegations.
Ailes? Workplace investigation upheld allegations.
O’Reilly? Workplace investigation upheld allegations.
Meinert? “I crossed a line.”
Cosby? Charged, tried, convicted.

This idea that men are being indiscriminately accused or jailed by vengeful women is a figment of a misogynistic imagination. A number of men have lost jobs through no fault but their own.

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@7 sean, I know you're imagination isn't that limited. Try reading something besides Jezebel. Ten famous dudes who were #metoo'd are not who folks are concerned about, they're concerned about nobodies like you and me who can't afford publicists to rehab our image or lawyers to defend the charges. If you only want above-the-fold names, you can start with Paul Nungesser.

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@8 - Imagination isn’t the question. The question is actual harm. And now you present yet another case where the accused was cleared by the university and received a settlement?

Thanks for continuing to prove my point. When women make non-credible claims (which is rate - we’re at three or four cases out of hundreds), it is possible to defend oneself.

Out of all my regular, non-famous male friends, do you know how many have been accused of rape? One. The woman in question told him so to his face. He felt bad about it. End of story. He is still employed.

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@9 Here you go

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5837985/forklift-driver-took-own-life-false-rape-accusation/

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-officer-verge-suicide-after-11340685

https://nypost.com/2018/06/30/false-college-rape-allegation-destroyed-my-life-suit/

https://www.caplantamburino.com/blog/2018/july/3-situations-where-false-accusations-ruined-live/

An there's more......

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@10 - But wait, there’s more! How many? Right now, assuming I accept your links as proof, we are up to 8 false allegations, three of which were overturned. Are there national stats on this? Are false allegations increasing? Are false allegations by women of rape statistically more common than false allegations related to other crimes?

Do the number of false allegations outweigh the valid, truthful allegations? Why do men need special protection from these allegations versus any other?

This epidemic of false accusations, this mob of angry women, is not a thing, unless women themselves scare you, which they probably do.

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Actually, I miscounted. We are up to seven false allegations. A whopping seven (and was o e of those from a .co.uk?). And that’s assuming your links aren’t bullshit (I don’t feel like spending the time to root through it). 160 million men in America. Looks like my odds of being falsely accused are up to .000004%. Better put a muzzle on them bitches - they are out of control!

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“...responsible penis owners.”

Is that the modern version of, “good girl,” as in, “if she’d been a good girl, and not acted like a slut, she wouldn’t have gotten raped?”

The problem isn’t the numbers of persons falsely accused. The problem is encouraging a culture of vigilantism.

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@12 what the fuck is wrong with you dude? If you have such a mechanical view of things, what's the harm in what Brett Kavanaugh did, he grabbed a boob over a shirt, maybe left a bruise. Apparently you don't think people have interior lives? Or just men, I suspect - impossible to make them afraid, hurt, whatever. That makes sense, they're just walking robots who exist to make sure our cars have gas, our roads get built, etc. But emotional stress, not possible?

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"What motivated the accuser in the Mylett case?"

The eight word sentence above is the most damning part of the entire article, trotting out that tired old double-standard that seems to persist: we don't question that men can do terrible things but when women do it we are puzzled. Oh noes, what would possess a woman to abandon her moral superiority and do bad things?

The fact that women can be shitty people because they can goes over the heads of clueless feminists.

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@14: I also like his blithely uncaring attitude toward anyone else affected by a false accusation. In the Duke and Rolling Stone cases, those campus environments were probably not made more conducive to learning by the ensuing turmoils.

Here in Seattle, there are more than a few of us voters who never believed the unverifiable tales told by opportunistic felons about then-Mayor Murray, and we resent having one of the officials whom we had properly elected hounded from office by “accusers” who very carefully avoided making real accusations in any court. (I doubt this experience has made Seattle a place more likely to believe actual victims.)

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@13 - A “responsible penis owner” is one who doesn’t molest, rape or harass. A “good girl” is one who is being implicitly blamed for her own potential victimization. To conflate the two is basically to imply...oh fuck it, you will never admit you’re sympathizing with rapists.

Seven false accusations (three overturned, one from jolly ol’ Wngland) against hundreds of valid verbal accusations does not equal a “culture of vigilantism.” Talk to me when rovomg bands of feminists are chasing men down the street.

God, you must have done or want to do some truly awful shit to women if the current climate scares you so badly. Rest assured - most assault victims are continuing to do what they’ve always done: remained silent and dealt with the abuse on their own. I guess that makes you happy.

Kudos for not letting Meinert keep you down, you wrongheaded piece of shit!

Have a nice day.

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@14 - The original position I objected to was this: false allegation = metoo is bad, so women shut up.

I wasn’t saying: false allegations = goid.

Got it? Probably not. You crybabies have such a skewed view of the world, anything that stops short of muzzling women unless they take a videotape of a rape to a police station five minutes after the rape ends.

Eh, you probably still wouldn’t believe her.

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“...a videotape of a rape...”

This from the guy who was totally sure if he was ever falsely accused of rape, he could always produce (a) visual exculpatory evidence that (b) everyone in the world would instantly accept.

Priceless!

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@19 - I never said anything of the kind. I said I would defend myself. I never said anything about videotape.

But why not invent stuff I said? You live in a fantasy world where women are out to get men, where a guy who calls himself a liberal leaps to the defense of pretty obvious rapists, where Asia Argento’s guilt in one case somehow extirpates Weinstein’s guilt in another - what’s a little lie about something I said? It’s the least of your hypocrisies.

Again, the example here and elsewhere proves that the rare men falsely accused can and do successfully defend themselves.

There are millions of unreported rapes - millions of crimes where the criminal got away with it, hundreds of public allegations under #metoo, and tens of false allegations (at least half of which were proven false). Pop quiz: which of the above is the most troubling?

I know your answer. #istandiwthrapists #kobestrong #murraywasinnocent #wrongonmeinertdontcare #dumbasafuckingbrick #leastpopularcommenteronslog

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You know, I’d lost interest in you, tensor. Moved on. Let you obsess over your piles of bricks. You were my private research project, discontinued. But since you’ve decided to raise your hand again, perhaps I’ll have to hit the books again. Your pathetic awfulness - your weird glee in taking a few swings at people someone stronger has already held down - just might re-energize me.

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You’re not that smart. You don’t understand how this internet game is played. You’ve given me everything I need. How much patience do I have to play connect the dots? It’s time Gepetto became a real boy, dyt?

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“I never said anything about videotape.”

Neither did I.

“But why not invent stuff I said?”

I didn’t. What I clearly wrote was, “visual exculpatory evidence,” by which I meant the “selfies” you ludicrously claimed you would always and forever be able to produce to defend yourself against a false charge of rape. (Because everyone would immediately believe whatever self-serving evidence you chose to show them.)

“You live in a fantasy world where women are out to get men, where a guy who calls himself a liberal leaps to the defense of pretty obvious rapists...”

You’re as bad at the mind-reading as you are the word-reading. For example,

“... not letting Meinert keep you down,”

I stated clearly and flatly that Meinert could have committed rape. How Clement et. al.’s subsequent accusations somehow invalidated my statement is yours to prove.

Good luck with that:

“It’s time Gepetto became a real boy,”

Geppetto was an old man. It was the wooden doll this old man made which magically wanted to become a real boy.

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@17: "To conflate the two is basically to imply...oh fuck it,"

Right there, even as you were trying to dismiss the obvious equation, you understood that both "a good girl" and "responsible penis owner" were implicit victim-blamings of any persons who were post facto accused of not fitting those descriptions.

Similarly, your flippantly callous, "he received a settlement," is the modern version of, "she fought him off and got safely away from him, didn't she?" (That's why Sportlandia wondered WTF is wrong with you. He wasn't alone in that.)

"...you will never admit you’re sympathizing with rapists."

Wanting justice for persons FALSELY ACCUSED of crimes, and sympathy for criminals, are two different -- in fact, contradictory -- things. Just as false accusations and true crimes are two different things:

@20: This post and thread are not actually about rape, your delusions to the contrary notwithstanding. They are about false accusations of rape. If you had read the post, you would have seen the links to the studies, showing false accusations of rape are not rare. (There would have been no need to humiliate yourself by demanding evidence which you then belittled and tried to deny.) If you had read the follow-ups to "Jackie's" tale in Rolling Stone, you would have seen the consequences are not harmless -- although "Jackie" herself seems to have suffered nothing for her malicious lies.

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