If we shrink the police and the court system who will make up the difference in lost tax revenue when all the businesses close because of the increase in crime? We should be making it harder to be a criminal. And no…I’m not a Republican.
So, a bunch of losers have started making threats if they don’t get what they want. Hopefully, in the primaries they can purge a few ‘progressive’ incumbents for the crime of Not Being Pure Enough, and then the general elections can contain only candidates with known connections to an externally-verifiable reality.
Meantime, pass the popcorn! Thanks for the laughs, Solidarity Budget!
I hope the "Thrive" budget is passed by the BB as is. It will provide a test case.
MAGA of the left lunatics
How much did “the left” pay some conservative think tank for that stupid “defund the police” phrase? It’s a near-perfect conservative talking point.
Oh joy! The 'Peasant's Crusade' is on the march! Defund the cops! Free stuff for people who don't want to work for it!
To the Fellow Travelers over at the 'Solidarity Budget': thanks so much for giving us such a glorious stick to beat the progressives with! Any SJW on the Clowncil stupid enough to pick this thing up can consider their re-election bid DOA.
I don't think even Kshama or Bernie Sanders could've crafted such an exquisite piece of campaign buzzkill; great job!!!
It’s almost as if these folks didn’t pay attention to the last city election.
The majority of city voters support sweeping homeless camps.
The majority of city voters do not want to defund the police.
If you want to lose elections, keep peddling that BS. But I’m sure you’ll get an endorsement from The Stranger!
I've just returned from the emergency room after falling on the floor due to paralyzing laughter and breaking my arm. Hannah Krieg has finally reached near-lethal levels of stupidity.
9 - you truly made me lol. So true.
I have nothing in common with the far left of this city. I feel the same towards them as I do the Jan 6 insurrectionists and MAGA's. They are horribly out of touch and incompetent. Luckily, they are actually in the vast minority.
there is no 'faux'
but to say, We're NOT
gonna Compromise before
we even Get to the negotiation Table
that appears to me to
be a Unique strategy
& an uncommon
Tactics? Well Played.
Dems've been 'negotiating'
from the middle and
Look where it's
@12: You raise a good point. What on earth gave Solidarity Budget the idea they were heading to a “negotiating table”? Why would anyone ‘negotiate’ with them, and for what? What have they to offer in return? As noted above, many of their demands have already been thoroughly rejected by Seattle’s voters.
@6 The irony is that the “Defund the Police” ACAB” crowd saved the GOP from extinction in 2020.
The 2020 election was shaping up to be a massive loss for Republicans. Democrats were poised to take commanding leads in both houses of Congress and State Legislatures. Then the far left decided to throw the GOP a lifeline by spending the summer of 2020 recreating the worst Burn Baby Burn aspects of the ‘60s and ‘70s.
As a result 2020 was a disaster for the Democrats, loosing state legislatures in a census year, loosing 15 House Seats, barely tying the Senate with two surprise miracles in Georgia, and just barely winning the Presidential election in 5 states.
I despise both the MAGA crowd and the ACAB crowd. The MAGAs for the huge threat they pose to democracy, and the ACABs for starting the fire that saved the GOP and gave fuel to the MAGAs.
14 speaking of giant help-
ings of self-righteousness
is Too much?
is a Symptom
I am heartened to read community groups are working together to create lists of common-sense reforms. Seattle needs all of this kind of information that it can get, because the power deciders in this city have no clue what real life is like on minimum wage.
For all the of "lock criminals up" shrieking, the actual stats on that premise are dismal.
Let's change course and actually use the data to guide us.
I am all for reform-minded candidates. Give me a list of them, my pencil is sharpened and ready to vote!
Seattle deserves way better than we've gotten.
We rank behind 13 European democratic nations in cops per 100,000 people. We have half the cops of Spain and France, and 40% less than Germany.
Northern Ireland: 362
United States: 239
Only in America does the left pit housing, healthcare, and social services against public safety as a zero sum game where to have more of the former, you have to have less of the latter, and vice-versa.
Oooooooooo if you don't give into their demands they will..... run against you...
Please. I think the majority of us have seen quite enough of what the policies that they are pushing lead to. We are totally fed up with catering to all the whims of a small group of addicts who were doing an exceptional job of making our streets nearly unlivable for several years. We're finally reclaiming our parks and sidewalks. Not willing to go back to that, thanks.
Oh... and if you really want Vision Zero - you need all of those "soft cops" because it's entirely clear that people do not give a diddly shit about any of the new speed limits or stop signs that they city has been trying.. Deaths have gone up because, surprise, with no enforcement the majority of people do whatever they want to.. the only time you see people obey the speed limit is in school zones, why, because they get a ticket if they don't.
No one who supports this foolishness will get my vote.
Ooops sorry about the double post
The only way to achieve “vision zero” is to get all new pedestrians and drivers, because both groups are the worst. It’s not even an aspirational goal at this point.
Backing a far-left unicorn in the primary against a progressive incumbent is how Seattle ended up with Ann Davison.
@23 And Ann is doing a fine job so far. Focused and non partisan. She cut the time to file by 98% compared to her predecessor. That no so much a sign of her competency but his abysmal performance.
That she did not win by a landslide over her opponent who promised to not do her job if elected is scary. Ann was/is a Republican and this cost votes in a non partisan office. Think about that next time you reflexively pull the D lever (for the youngens here, in the olden days there were levers and voting machines that you went to, and machines without levers).
If the GOP could move past Trump and Culp and fellow travelers, and put forth people like Dan Evans, many of us would consider them seriously.
SB and MAGA - two sides of the same coin
Park Place dear, I would likely never vote Republican (as Republicans are horrible people), but it sure would be nice to be tempted. One of those 70’s Republicans who would laugh if you asked them about Religion or guns, wouldn’t think twice about getting or paying for an abortion, was socially liberal and fiscally conservative, but who realized that we have to pay at least some taxes and that we can’t let people die in the streets.
but Catalina the
Dying in our Streets
is a Wake-up call to the
Lazy &/or morally Inferior:
you Better get
yet Another job.
@17 -- BINGO
Pragmatism Pays for Itself.
@17: Would your mind will change if you stabbed, hit over the head with a pole, carjacked, or just run-of-the-mill robbed?
Maturity comes with a post-bleeding heart mindset.
Would you like fries with that?
Enough with the defund the police. It didn't work, it won't work and the resulting lawlessness is plain for all to see.
When the Mayor of San Francisco says "Its time to quit pretending social workers will solve these problems" .. you can take it as an article of faith, the far left approach of limited police, limited prosecution and throwing money, borrowed money, at these types of problems isn't working.
"I am heartened to read community groups are working together to create lists of common-sense reforms. Seattle needs all of this kind of information that it can get, because the power deciders in this city have no clue what real life is like on minimum wage." --@17, beautifully
ing heart mindset."
--@28 the dewdrop
so fuck any silly Input
from the Citizenry the good
ole Status Quo's doin' just fine
we've been doing this Wrong
for so Fucking Long, why on
Earth Change Anything
so fucking Take
whatchya fucking Get
and just Quitchyur Pouting!
Input we "need."
this is a great plan to see Seattle become Portland 2.0. let's try it!
It’s fascinating to see that the right’s contempt for democracy is equaled by the left’s. Thankfully only one of those groups controls one of the two major political parties.
And we all get a pony, right?
@17: "because the power deciders in this city have no clue what real life is like on minimum wage. "
The power deciders? Who's that?
Minimum wage is a starting wage. It was never required to be a sustainable wage. That's real life as it should be.
Budget to thrive? Budget to live? Solidarity budget? Houseless? Unhoused? What the fuck are you people talking about? You’re busy making inane fridge-magnet poetry policy proposals while the city’s moving on and starting to deal with the reality created by thinking this way. I’ve never seen this city as garbaged-up as it is now. Wake the fuck up, idiots. This is exactly the kind of imbecilic, incoherent drivel that makes you as irrelevant as Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Jewish Space Lasers.
Angélica Cházaro is a provocateur paid by the Republican National Committee, right?
“It’s fascinating to see that the right’s contempt for democracy is equaled by the left’s. Thankfully only one of those groups controls one of the two major political parties.”
The GOP allowed the crazies to take over the party. It’s imperative that the Democrats don’t allow the far left crazies like Solidarity Budget to do likewise.
And of course the cherry on this feces sundae is the 'demand' that the City allocate a more and more of the budget (ultimately $200 million) to so-called 'Participatory Budgeting' (i.e., putting the inmates in charge of the asylum), and for the process to be led by 'black Seattleites'.
Really? I suppose the 'black Seattleites' SB's talking about are the same bunch of grifters and shakedown artistes that brought you King County Equity Now!, the (laughingly) so-called 'Black Brilliance Project', 'Street Czar' (and convicted pimp) Andre Taylor, and CHAZ/CHOP 'warlord' Raz Simone. The only qualification any of these clowns has is their genius for monetizing White Liberal Guilt.
Sorry kids, but what may have flown in 2020 is way past its 'best by' date. Seattle is pretty much done with Wokeism, guilt trips, and SB's pseudo-Marxist rhetoric. With inflation and a deflating Stock Market upon us, and an all-but-inevitable recession just around the corner, Seattle is realizing that it can no longer afford the Wokester fantasies of the Activist Class. It's going to be every man for himself and the Devil take the hindmost.
And people won't give a shit about your pronoun choices either; no more time for luxuries like that, so grow up.
Sorry but you right wing so called “centrists” Just hate any thing that would actually address the disaster that has hit a majority of the people in this country. Its called poverty and it kills. 50% around that number are poor.
We have more cops here than whole countries.
Human beings are dying on the streets.
The prisons are bulging. There is nothing radical to call for defunding the police for solving the root causes of poverty it is long overdue.
Time to consider the history of racism, classism and the damage done by those so indoctrinated with the status quo.
35 etc. The power deciders like the billionaires that run the economy and those that serve them. They have more wealth than whole countries.
The ones that hate unions and any movements that fight for the underdog.
The ones that hated abolitionists that fought against slavery. You are the same voices.
Bring on the hate. We expect it from you.
@41: "The ones that hated abolitionists that fought against slavery. You are the same voices."
Was there even such an animal? I don't think there's any common area in that Venn Diagram.
Who the hell is doing your proofreading? A newly-unionized Sbux barista? Tell them you pick up the weed AFTER you're done with editing/proofing; not the other way around.
I love Seattle, we used to live in Wallingford and N Cap Hill. But we can't run an animal rescue there so we moved east county.
What Seattle needs the Luddites won't allow. Surveillance tech and lightweight autonomous vehicles are an answer. 70%+ of vehicle weight is due to safety regulations. It may take an autocratic regime somewhere in the world to solve this bad boy.
What is it about conservatives and poo? They always have to talk about it.
I blame their mothers. It's not natural for a woman to be a Republican.
of vehicle weight
is due to safety regulations."
them Tires Chassis
Motors and Transmissions
weighed so gott damn Little?
seat belts (for 6)
a little short
I never was all
that good at Mathematicals.
otoh: Yes they'll
into ALL new vehicles eventually
(making them Semi-auto-mobiles)
tho running into Left Wing Protesters
may prove less a Quandry for
far Reich wing killing machines.
that the Democrats don’t
allow the far left crazies like
Solidarity Budget to do likewise."
translation: we Must keep
the Conversation CENTERED
on the status fucking quo bitches.
also: Great Comments
Ivy R. thank you!
@47 Incorrect. When has focusing on the radical left / right generated a workable solution? You can count this on the fingers of no hands at all. As in NEVER. So, why waste everyone’s time with this bullshit?
Threaten all you want. I won't be voting for pinheads who refuse to stop criminals, and expect citizens to do their own police work, with all the nightmares that entails. Yeah, you're gonna push out sociology PhD city council members for super radical ivory tower theorists? Ok, whatevs.
You want support for addiction programs, then increase funding for police investigating WHO is bringing all the fentanyl into this area. It's made in China, it comes through Mexico and our ports, and yes, some rich connected white people must be making some of the money. However, only the whites can be criticized, because mentioning the other ethnicities makes you a Trumper (yes, I hate those christian psychotics). Of course, this topic will never be fully investigated because it's America the drug and gun superstore. Meanwhile, all the funding for treatment will go to overpaid professionals who won't do much, because it's mission impossible, and all the money will be wasted. Fentanyl addicts are not like other users, their minds are toast in 2-3 years of steady use. Might as well spruce up the jungle and pay cops to keep it under a semblance of control, because modern addicts can not be housed. So anyone who doesn't want to address problems practically can buzz away. And yes, unregulated landlords and ridiculous private ownership of property in Seattle is insanely unfair and unjust, but there are also single old people paying 50% of their social security in property taxes which have no relief in this state or city because there is no income tax on rich people. Seattle is a problem not worth solving. You're not going to foment the revolution it takes, because people are too into blunts and playing dress up to attract men who will never be interested in them to do what it takes. Maybe get the vote together and get the state an income tax, good luck with that one, because America. You want justice, emigrate.
@40 "Its called poverty and it kills. 50% around that number are poor."
The poverty rate is nowhere near 50%, It hasn't been that high since the Great Depression.
For the last 30+ years it has seesawed, rising under Reagan and Bush, dropping under Clinton, rising again under W. Bush, then falling under Obama, and three years into Trump, before it started rising again in 2020.
Between 2010 and 2019 it was steadily dropping. In 2010 it was at a 30 year high of 15.1%. It was at a 30 year low of 10.5% just before COVID. It rose to 11.4 percent between 2019 and 2022 (COVID) and it currently shows signs of leveling off.
So Ivy you either lied or are misinformed. I'll cut you some slack and assume you were just misinformed, or not informed.
Well, well... its the end of the leftist world as we know it.
The "feel good agenda" of free everything, hate capitalism and no responsibility for one's actions is coming to an end. yes, yes, I know very it hard to take, but its over.
These all work very well until you run out of other people's money.
Time to go back to work, pay rent, pay taxes and contribute to society..... oh yes how horrifying.
Ah yes, the election.... a new slate of leaders who embrace the people's agenda, not yours Hannah, but the everyday person who works, it will be a era of law enforcement, responsibility and of course no free rides.
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