I'm surprised the pro-Israel contingent isn't here saying Israel has the right to shoot American citizens in the head. There will be no justice for this woman. There was no justice for Rachel Corrie. There is no justice for any victim of the violence the Zionists do. Everyone will just have to suck it up and nothing will be done and Israel will continue killing everyone they want to kill, with everything paid for an all weapons supplied by the United States. HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE GIVEN TO THESE TERRORISTS AND AMERICANS DO NOTHING.

AIPAC is Cantwell’s #1 contributor. Her 59-word statement on the death of Aysenur is embarrassing and fails to call for any investigation into her murder.

AIPAC is Sen Patty Murray’s #3 contributor (behind UW and Microsoft). Her statement calls for Israel to “deliver answers immediately”.

Israel cannot be trusted to investigate itself. This has been proven time and time again.
I have written Murray and Cantwell repeatedly since the genocide began. While it’s likely futile, please continue to contact their respective offices and ask them for an arms embargo and demand an independent investigation into Aysenur’s murder.

I’ve also asked my union WSNA to respond to the recent Human Rights Watch report that detailed the detainment and torture of Palestinian healthcare workers.

What else can we do?

I'm glad Dori Monson is too dead to celebrate her death, like he did with Rachel Corrie's.

@4 -- well at least
Jason Cramps
shill is.

@3
poorly
Trolled
even 4 u.

bibi's
little War
on Gazans
cannot End
it's the only thing
keeping him outta prison

meanwhile
we just keep
handing that monster
more and more Monies
to assassinate Whomeverthefuck.

WHY,
America?

This is a tragedy without a doubt. Another American citizen was executed at point blank range on Aug 31st. I guess I missed the marches, outrage and calls for justice for him.

@6 You missed them? You must not follow Israeli or internarional news. Israel nearly had a general strike over it. Liberals and centrists there are wide awake to the reality that Bibi blocking the ceasefire (and Biden enabling Bibi) is the reason he wasnt brought home months ago alive

@5
And you’re going to cast a vote for a presidential candidate who if she wins, will be continuing current policy with regards to Israel.
What does that say about you?

2 I don't know. I have written to my so-called representatives and the occupants of the White House (and VP Harris) every. single. day. since October 7, 2023 and not one response. NOT ONE. They've all received AIPAC money. Biden's taken more than $4 MILLION from AIPAC.

Harris, if she becomes president, will continue to arm and fund Israel as the Biden Administration has, as has every administration since Israel was created.

The only way this will end if the world demands it ends and Israel is destroyed. Otherwise it will be like this until the end of time.

@7 yeah I kinda expected that would be the response. Thank you for reminding me this is all the fault of Israeli leadership. I should have realized that when the Hamas person holding them captive put a gun against his head and shot him at point blank range that was actually part of the resistance like when they blew his arm off with a grenade or raped all those women. Clearly Bibi needs to stop his genocide and apartheid treatment of Palestinians and order all Israeli citizens to lay down their arms and accept being slaughtered by the Palestinians as part of their atonement for colonizing the land of Judea which is clearly an Arab homeland. The sooner they accept their fate and cease to exist the sooner there will be peace in the mideast because the various sects of Islam and tribes that live in those areas would get along if it were't for the interlopers causing all the problems.

@11: I can't believe the White House hasn't responded to her daily entreaties. Weird, because I'm sure they're just as diplomatic as her Slog posts.

Pretty sure there will be no Justice for Aysenur Eygi.

@d13r, solo, dewey et al:

and Yet
as it Says
right over the
fucking Doorway into
"our" (formerly-) Supreme ct:

EQUAL JUSTICE FOR ALL.

what do you
Imagine it might
Entail to hold 'our'
"Leaders" accountable
to that declaration? or have

you Just Given Up
and hope & pray
they Come for
You the Very
Last?

@13 Sure but right now all I hear is alibis and excuses for atrocities on one side and demands for extermination as @9 demonstrates for the other side which hardly sounds like justice. So where do you start?

should we happen to Survive
eltrumpfster's attack on democracy
then we join the rest of the Planet in a
General Strike for Palestinian Freedom from
bibi's War on Palestine and also for bibi's Ouster

there's only one
possible Outcome
should the nutnyahoo
continue on as prime monster

it'll likely
be nukular.

Israel is being destroyed by Israel (there is no one else to blame). Netanyahu will be blamed.
And when Israel is gone, the world will be a better place, for everyone, including every single Jew.

Israel is falling apart, and American leaders are in denial
https://mondoweiss.net/2024/07/israel-is-falling-apart-and-american-leaders-are-in-denial/

@6 you didn't care enough about a different American being killed to find or create a protest, so nobody else should care about this American being killed? That's what you're going with?

@13: '"EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW"-These words, written above the main entrance to the Supreme Court Building, express the ultimate responsibility of the Supreme Court of the United States.' (https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/constitutional.aspx#:~:text=%22EQUAL%20JUSTICE%20UNDER%20LAW%22%2D,Court%20of%20the%20United%20States.)

@18: The parents of the future murder victim spoke at the Democratic National Convention. The Stranger demanded another speaker, one who would not mention Hamas. After Hamas killed this American citizen, no one spoke in Seattle. No crowds in Seattle demanded an Israel free of Hamas' terrorism. The Stranger did not label his brutal murder an injustice.

Let us know when a very subtle pattern begins to tease the outer limits of your perception...

@19 "After Hamas killed this American citizen, no one spoke in Seattle."

No you just didn't care to notice, because you don't actually care about that hostage just making lame whataboutism arguments

https://www.komonews.com/news/local/hundreds-attend-vigil-march-for-murdered-israeli-hostages-israeli-american-hersh-goldberg-polin-gaza-hamas-war-middle-east-mercer-island

@20: That was a protest on Mercer Island; at the end of the event, the participants decided to march into Seattle. (Hint: the words “Mercer” and “island” appear in the url you posted.) This underscored the complete absence of concern expressed in Seattle itself — just as I’d written.

Thanks for your support!

Next time, try reading your own links.

People would likely not protest for justice if they thought US officials would do something about the blatant murder of Ayşenur Ezgi Eygi, beside paying lip service like they always do:

"Earlier this year, two 17-year-old Palestinian Americans were killed in the West Bank: Tawfic Abdel Jabbar, a Louisiana native who was shot in January by an off-duty Israeli officer and a settler, and Mohammad Khdour, a high school senior from Florida who was shot in the head by an Israeli gunman several weeks later. In both cases, the U.S. government decried the killings but have yet to launch investigations.

Lara Friedman, president of the Foundation for Middle East Peace, told The Intercept that such muted responses from the U.S government after the killings of American citizens in the occupied West Bank has become de facto policy.

“The policy of the U.S. government, both the executive and legislative branches, has effectively been that not all Americans are equal when it comes to dying in the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians,” Friedman said. “Israeli Americans are worth fighting for accountability and Palestinian Americans and Americans who stand with them are not. It almost feels farcical to have to say that out loud, because the record is so clear.”

https://theintercept.com/2024/09/06/american-shot-israel-military-eygi-west-bank/

@14 Calling for the destruction of a colonial ethno-state is hardly demonstrating "demands for extermination". I personally think that the only solution to the conflict is likely one secular state for all; extermination is hardly a recipe for success in living together.

@24 how’s that work out in Lebanon? The majority Christian population there has dwindled to only a third as the country has been destroyed by the influx of Palestinian and Syrian refugees influenced by Iran.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2176034/lebanons-once-thriving-christian-population-dwindling-as-country-approaches-collapse/

It continually amazes me that when radical Muslims say they want to kill everyone and occupy 100% of the land the progressive left interprets that as they want to live in a free and open society side by side by Israel.

@22: “People would likely not protest for justice if they thought US officials would do something about the blatant murder of Ayşenur Ezgi Eygi,”

So, Seattle’s self-appointed screaming activist class didn’t protest the blatant murder of Hersh Goldberg-Polin because they thought Hamas was going to bring his killer to justice?

@17 Come on, Xina. Why you backing off? You know what you want to say. Take that next step... you know you want to write it. It's eating at you. Speak your truth! Take that call for the destruction of Israel and go that one more step that you want sooooo bad. Quite hiding.

@25 I'd rather not concede to extremists they won by declaring we cannot live among people of different beliefs. I also remain convinced that almost all Muslims are tolerant of others; however, since religious extremists are currently such a problem, the right wing should stop enabling them over their secular opposition (starting with Netanyahu)

Although, Lebanon is in dire straight, I wouldn't put too much faith into the assertions at the link you cited. The 2022 CIA factbook says the religious makeup of Lebanese citizens has hardly changed for decades. The issue of refugees, especially Syrians is a complex one that cannot be imparted to religion.

@26 I never thought I would have to tell anyone that nobody thinks they can influence Hamas by protesting in Seattle but I should have known it would happen, given your propensity to say anything and alternatively its opposite that you think may score you a point, delusional or not.

@28 You are wonderfully naive. I would agree the most Muslims are tolerant but they are not located in the Middle East. Religion there is used by governments to repress dissent and consolidate their own power. If you examine the trends in the surrounding countries (Iran, Iraq, Quatar, Syria etc) religious and ethnic minorities are discriminated against, harassed and otherwise persecuted (see the Kurds for instance). To date none of the Arab countries have remotely hinted at accepting an Israeli presence in the area and many of them have expelled Jews from their own countries. I don't know how you come to the conclusion that all will be well if Israel opens their arms to their Arab neighbors.

@29 Willful naivete

@28: “…nobody thinks they can influence Hamas by protesting in Seattle…”

How do they know if they never even try? When Sinwar instructed his fellow leaders of Hamas, he reminded them merely passively hiding behind civilians wasn’t enough. They were to undertake operations in a manner designed to increase the number of civilian casualties in Gaza, because, he claimed, Israel would get the blame, which would help Hamas.

But what if Israel didn’t get the blame? What if Hamas’ long-standing policy of using the entire civilian population of Gaza as human shields instead got them huge protests in cities around the world? Might they then have an incentive to change that policy? Because right now, every time some protestors put the blame on Israel and only upon Israel, Hamas’ policy works, which means they’ll do more of it, and more civilians will die. Shouldn’t we at least try something which might stop this? Or are civilian lives in Gaza not worthy of even that much of our consideration?

“…nobody thinks they can influence Hamas by protesting in Seattle…”

But blocking I-5, now that just worked wonders, didn’t it?

It’s been almost a year since 10/7. “Gaza Isn’t Driving Votes.” What great success have the protesters’ tactics achieved in changing American policy towards Israel? Again, isn’t it time for a re-think?

@29 No, not naive but a realist and an optimist. "The arc of the moral universe is long but it bends toward justice" resumes my thoughts on this topic and to be honest, although progress isn't linear, it's arc isn't that long especially in a globalized world. For example, the concept of colonialism is universally reviled today (a change that occurred in 60 odd years) so that those who implement it claim that it doesn't apply even though almost nobody believes them.

@21 arguing that protest doesn't count because they started on Mercer Island (home to probably the largest Jewish community in the region) before marching into Seattle is a new low even for you

@33: Instead of confusing you even further, with complicated reasoning concepts such as, “Seattle isn’t Mercer Island,” I’ll just note how the Mercer Island protestors made their way into Seattle by walking alongside the interstate highway, not onto it. See the difference?

@32 an optimist for sure but not a realist.

If the Palestinians were ready for their own state they wouldn’t have elected Hamas when given the chance.
The problem is the Palestinians want to expel the Jews from the Middle East. That isn’t going to happen. And no amount of murdering and kidnapping and raping like occurred on Oct 7 by Palestinians will get them their state - rather it sets that notion back a generation or two.
And if this is your cause de jour in Seattle in 2024, get a fucking life.

@35 I am very optimistic about the very real possibility that our next president will be a brown female, which didn't seem possible just a couple decades ago.. The world of many reactionaries is about to collapse as she breaks through that ceiling and, I will relish the moment when the new leader of the armed forces tells them what's going to happen next.

@36 if the Israelis were ready for their own state they wouldn't have elected Likud when given the chance. The problem is the Jews want to expel the Palestinians from Palestine. That isn't going to happen. And no amount of bombing children's hospitals and sniping American protesters will get them what they want.

@31 What if Israel didn't impose apartheid on Palestinians? Refuse them access to health care, food, water, and other fundamentals for life?
What it Israel complied with international law and didn't steal Palestinian land?
What if Israel didn't murder it own citizens via the Hannibal directive as seen on Oct 7?
What if Israel didn't use Palestinians as human shield to clear a safe path from IED's for its military?
What if Israel didn't commit war crimes, crimes against humanity and likely genocide?

Just imagine.

@38: And if we Americans were ready for our own country, we would not have elected Donald Trump.

Seriously, Israel removed all settlers from the Gaza Strip, an act of ethnic cleansing which was supposed to move both sides along towards peace. The next year, Gaza’s electorate chose Hamas. Care to give us your best judgement on how this might affect potential removal of Israeli settlements from the West Bank?

@37 and what is she going to tell them? Last time I looked the progressives were shouting at "killer Kamala" because she is no different than any other leader (e.g. she recognizes Jews have a right to exist and that Hamas is a terrorist organization hellbent on genocide"). Inquiring minds would love to know what you think is going to change? Given your post @39 you're probably going to be very disappointed because Kamala disagrees with you on many of those assertions. Let's respond to those questions of yours with some other ones:

What is Palestinians didn't use the cover of food and medical suppliers to smuggle in weapons from Iran? What if the actually provided humanitarian supplies to their people instead of hoarding them and using them as leverage to suppress dissent?
What if Palestinians followed international law and stopped waging wars against Israel and accepted they have a right to live?
What is Palestinians didn't hide weapons and military bunkers in hospitals and schools? What if their leaders didn't order their fighters to maximize civilian casualties as part of their strategy?
What is Hamas changed their charter so it didn't include a directive to exterminate all Jews? What if they also recognized that women have basic fundamental rights and should be treated equally to men? What if they recognized that those of different faiths have a right to practice those faiths without persecution and harassment?

What if?

@41 No, You are missing the point. I am not going to be disappointed since I already know that I will disagree with a lot of what Harris will do as president but I am a realist because none of that will change that her accessing the presidency will have a huge impact on the expected distribution of power as a function of race and sex. Not only is it going to negate in a significant way the favorite weapon of demagogues, those who try to divide humans by demonizing the other in order to take advantage, like Trump but he is far from the only one but it shows that the arrow of time is toward justice so there is no reason to buy into the it's-the-way-it-has-always-been world vision that you are proposing to us.

As for these other points, you'll have to provide evidence for those affirmations regarding what Palestinians do and do not do. Israel has a long record of lying to excuse its war crimes so regurgitating Israeli propaganda won't do. It doesn't work anymore for most Americans, little less the rest of the world.

@42 " It doesn't work anymore for most Americans, a lot less for the rest of the world."

@41: “What if their leaders didn't order their fighters to maximize civilian casualties as part of their strategy?”

@42: “As for these other points, you'll have to provide evidence for those affirmations regarding what Palestinians do and do not do.”

"In dozens of messages—reviewed by The Wall Street Journal—that Sinwar has transmitted to cease-fire negotiators, Hamas compatriots outside Gaza and others, he’s shown a cold disregard for human life and made clear he believes Israel has more to lose from the war than Hamas. The messages were shared by multiple people with differing views of Sinwar."

[...]

'In one message to Hamas leaders in Doha, Sinwar cited civilian losses in national-liberation conflicts in places such as Algeria, where hundreds of thousands of people died fighting for independence from France, saying, “these are necessary sacrifices.”'

[...]

"High civilian casualties would create worldwide pressure on Israel, Sinwar said."

(https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/gaza-chiefs-brutal-calculation-civilian-bloodshed-will-help-hamas-626720e7)

You’re welcome. Thanks for playing!

"You’re welcome. Thanks for playing!"

You are such a moron. First, it's unclear which civilians are discussed @41. Second. you provided evidence that Hamas thinks Israeli atrocities will turn world opinion against Israel, not that "Hamas wants to maximize Palestinian civilian casualties"

anyhow, I'll be waiting for solid evidence regarding the rest of assertions made in @41

@45: “First, it's unclear which civilians are discussed @41.”

Hahahahaha… THAT is the best you can do? Hamas’ extensive use of human shields was documented by NATO many years ago. (https://stratcomcoe.org/cuploads/pfiles/hamas_human_shields.pdf) Who else did you think @41 was referring to?

“Second. you provided evidence that Hamas thinks Israeli atrocities…”

No, read harder this time: “High civilian casualties would create worldwide pressure on Israel, Sinwar said." Not ‘atrocities,’ like the US Army at My Lai, or the Imperial Japanese Army in Nanjing, but ‘casualties’. You know, the ones created by Hamas’ policy of shooting at Israel and the IDF from behind human shields in Gaza? The ones created by holding Israeli hostages in densely-populated areas of Gaza?

‘not that "Hamas wants to maximize Palestinian civilian casualties"’

So, extensive and chronic use of human shields most definitely does NOT indicate a desire to maximize civilian casualties? Then explicitly saying “high civilian casualties would create worldwide pressure on Israel” does NOT indicate a desire to maximize civilian casualties? Ok, what evidence would you accept as proof that Hamas’ leaders want higher numbers of civilian casualties in Gaza, and command operations accordingly? What would it take? Please do tell.

@40 as someone who desperately wishes Cascadia could or would secede you'll get no argument from me on your first point.

Unfortunately your second point is, per usual, disingenuous or ignorant. Israel withdrew settlers from Gaza for their own political purposes but maintained the occupation. Anyone unfamiliar with this episode can read this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_Gaza_Strip

"Israel has a long record of lying to excuse its war crimes"

that's rich if you are going to quote the Palestinian Authority as your source of truth. I'm not going to write a research paper for you anymore then I expect you'll provide a dissertation for me on your questions. I'll let other readers decide which has more truth.

@48 I have previously cited UN reports, Amnesty International, Human rights Watch, Doctors w/o borders and a few newspapers that supported all the statements I made @39 (including use of the Hannibal directive). Some sources also discussed the lack of evidence provided by Israel to support its claims despite repeated probing and the unconvincing nature of the evidence provided. I may have quoted the PA indirectly (as in news reports) but it's clearly not my "source of truth" in regard to Israel lying to avoid charges of war crimes.

You made a number of claims @41 that remain unsubstantiated.

"After graduation, Eygi traveled to the West Bank to volunteer with the International Solidarity Movement (ISM)."

The ISM's statement in response to Oct. 7th reads, in part:

"The International Solidarity Movement joins Palestinians and Palestine solidarity activists and organisations all around the world in restating that the root cause of the current violence is Israeli occupation and settler colonialism. Until the oppression of Palestinians comes to an end, Israel is responsible for the death and misery of Palestinians and Israelis." (https://palsolidarity.org/2023/10/ism-statement/)

Hamas' many crimes on Oct. 7th and after -- the murders, the gang-rapes, the kidnappings, the murders of kidnap victims, indiscriminate firing of rockets into Israel from behind human shields in Rafah -- all of it was Israel's fault. No blame of any kind can attach to the persons who actually planned and committed those crimes. Unsurprisingly, anyone who subscribes to such a blithely simplistic ideology may get into some serious trouble upon leaving school and entering the real world, and, sadly, Ayşenur Ezgi Eygi seems to have demonstrated that pretty well.

@45: What did you think Sinwar's reference to Algeria meant? He was talking about the large numbers of civilians killed there, due to the insurgency against French colonial rule. (What, you don't know the word, "colonial," now?) He was reminding them Hamas should not care about such large civilian casualty figures in Gaza, either. Every civilian killed is just another martyr for the cause.

@47: Israel's actions fit the "land for peace" rubric perfectly. My question remains unanswered: how did subsequent events in Gaza affect hope of similar settlement-removals from the West Bank?

@49: Some of the support you demanded was in the link I provided @46:

"Hamas’ most common uses of human shields include:
"Firing rockets, artillery, and mortars from or in proximity to heavily populated civilian areas, often from or
near facilities which should be protected according to the Geneva Convention (e.g. schools, hospitals,
or mosques).
"Locating military or security-related infrastructures such as HQs, bases, armouries, access routes, lathes, or defensive positions within or in proximity to civilian areas.
"Protecting terrorists’ houses and military facilities, or rescuing terrorists who were besieged or warned by the IDF.
"Combating the IDF from or in proximity to residential and commercial areas, including using civilians for intelligence gathering missions."

That report was from the last decade; please do try to keep up.

You're welcome; (you know the rest).