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Well said, Dan! Please keep the light of your sassy humor burning, now more than ever.
Unless they really absolutely want to stay in the US, of course, in which case: good luck.
In the 1990s I know someone who married a non-US citizen who was on a student visa legally (male-female couple of course back then, and way before all the 9/11 hysteria) and they made his wife exit the country, stay out for many months, while she applied for a green card / whatever visa would let her stay in the US while her green card came through as even then they didn't allow "converting" from a legal documented temporary status to green card.
If your BF is from a country where gay men can be imprisoned for being gay (which is a whole heck of a lot of countries!), you might get some special status that could avert the trip out of the USA... And perhaps there are other ways around it too for hardship, I am not an attorney. But I do have enough friends who are immigrants to know it is a whole heck of a lot of hoops. And the green card status can be jeopardized by any legal issues / even minor crimes, and it's a very long road to citizenship now.
Either way, get married now, get to that immigration attorney ASAP, and realize that even under Obama the US law treated legal immigrants like crap a lot of the time, and it's only going to get worse, so your new husband should avoid any minor arrests or demonstrating against Trump. Even resisting arrest can be grounds for revoking a green card and that's often thrown at peaceful dissenters. Get legal advice from someone who knows immigration law on an ongoing basis!
Good luck!
Most countries (including the US) make it hard for their employers to hire someone who doesn't already have legal residency status or citizenship unless you're an extra special snowflake.
So all KHH needs to do is to get his ass into a French class right now. (Joking, but not totally.)
If that's beyond his capacities, he can just wait a little while; as a gay man, if things go as bad as we expect them to, he might soon be entitled to ask for refugee status.
So unless KHH's boyfriend is already under government watch for something, I think KHH needs to stop hyperventilating, and proceed calmly (if reasonably swiftly) with his wedding plans. I say this as the former spouse of an undocumented immigrant who, although a hard worker, certainly did not contribute hundreds of thousands of dollars to, or create jobs for, the US economy.
That way I can say, "Tax Dollars, Bitches! Tax! Dollars! Neener neener neener!"
I encourage my fellow civil servants to do likewise.
If you've ever wanted to move someplace less shitty, get on the ball and get the fuck out before 2020.
So get married, and if anyone asks say "We were worried Trump would repeal gay marriage." It is true. If it doesn't work out, get a divorce after your BF has his green card in hand and part ways knowing you both did the right thing.
It may be scary and hard at times - not intended- yet much more likely to change some hearts and minds than yelling, “You idiot, what did you vote????”
As we used to say in the program, “One day at a time.”
In some extreme situations, and I don’t think this is the case for LW1; it may resemble the use of alcohol, drugs, or compulsive food consumption.
Please don’t mention any of this to Dan and the experts.
I am donating to ACLU and Planned Parenthood, and continue to contribute to my local PP clinic when I can. Hillary is my president, and I will have no sympathy for anyone who voted for Trump under his arrogance, lies and vitriol--especially when he and his fellow henchpigs fail to deliver what they promised in making America "great".
It is now time to Wake America Up.
@13 MiscKitty: It frightens me how blood red the majority of states have become east of Washington State and west of New York.
Note: I am talking about permanent residency, legal work permits / visa, access to Canadian health insurance as a national, the whole deal. Of course, up and moving for a few months is very easy, at least for OECD 20 nationals (if you're from a developing economy, it can be tough just getting a tourist visa).
(And actually, I am a naturalized citizen myself, and a good portion of my friends are also first generation Americans.)
Kwame Anthony Appiah writes eloquently how discriminating on the basis of citizenship and preventing free movement of non-wealthy individuals is morally wrong and "open borders" would be a more just world as the rich can live and work where they want already, the middle class elite with some difficulty can chose what country to live in, but everyone else is stuck.
I'd be lost without everyone and everything positive right now, and I am
still reeling with mortification, shock and sadness from November 8th.
I LOVE your thinking, Wild Sow @11!
Not sure where you are right now, but very possibly thanks to people like your great-grand I’d like to say something in praise of Puget Sound “older white people,” or at least some of them.
Over a month ago I expressed my concerns with a recent Savageville production of the Hansel and Gretel opera, and how a man depicted the witch in a manner that I perceived as a derogatory draggy way. After expressing my concerns with the opera director I was challenged to go and watch the show.
I went in my female persona which appeared to be a totally non-issue with the mostly, I mean at least 92.4%, older white people.
Unfortunately the show had its own unnecessary attempting-to-be-cool draggy moments. Chief among them was the witch shaking her grotesque oversized fake breasts while bowing to the crowd at the very end.
I expressed some of my concerns during the after show talk attended by some75 people, most of them… yes, that’s right, older white people.
Much to my surprise people clapped when I was done. An older white man sitting next to his older white wife and both looked very much like a life-long Bellevue republican talked after me and totally backed me up. A cis woman about my age (just for a reference: EmmaLiz speculated couple of weeks ago that I’m older than her. I suspect EmmaLiz is around 47.5 yo) said she was offended by this portrayal of women I general, and a lesbian couple who had their hands up throughout the talk were intentionally ignored by the seemingly gay man who ran the show and must have been taken by surprise by this broad coalition.
Once it was over an old white dude wearing a suit came up to me and said in a low voice, “They would have never dared casting a real woman for that role,” which is exactly what I told the general director in my second email to him which he never responded to.
To their credit, I don’t think the opera meant any intentional harm. This week they show “As One- a transgender story,” and your best chance to view it is today, Thursday. https://seattleopera.org/asone?playlists…
The Clarence Thomas vote was soooo much hotter; we may even have few more of him soon.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg is also old and white, assuming Jews are considered “white.”
(warning: white US racists often repeat their support of a militant version of Israel as a “proof” of their otherwise fake tolerant credentials)
And as an added bonus, you'll be happier. (I'm speaking from personal experience.)
So lets say prez-elect proved to be an ethical person, a wonderful family man, and that despite some concerns he is not going to scrap a law he inherited.
Please give us a list of positive legislative moves him and his vice may have for us.
I'm not sure about reducing sex to a stress reliever. But I agree that it's a nice side effect this election season. So long as it's not with a trump supporter+woman. Roe v Wade is getting hammered already. & personally I don't like using trump as a synonym for winning anymore.
KHH - Is it still worth it to try? What do I do if the government takes away the love of my life?
Isn't that always the question. Is it worth it. What do you gain, what do you lose. I hope you are both good guys and choose to commit to supporting each other. Otherwise, you could look into legal immigration, or moving to your boyfriend's home country. Perhaps you would be inspired to activism or lobbying. I would expect a lot of notice if there are big changes to immigration policy going through.
GIVE - You helped support women's health. Thank you.
Women are 1/2 the population, and absolutely necessary to its survival. And none of us want to worry about being punished for miscarriages, under suspicion that we're aborters and thus next to murderers. That's the other end of Roe v Wade overturned, fertilized eggs are legally protected nonsense. When the alternative to an abortion is an early delivery, sure, make it law, but make sure the resulting ward of the state is valued. Given care for its well being until adulthood, including the needs for safety and security that seems to be missing from the present foster system. But until you can adequately care for state wards, the children born already, stop working on protecting fertilized eggs (when boyfriend removed the condom midcoitus, or birth control fails.. when awful immoral person decides to have sex for pleasure instead of procreation so must carry the child to term.. when awful immoral person was forcibly impregnated?)
end rant
Bad P @19, your anecdote reminded me of an old joke. Why do Canadians prefer to do it doggy-style? -So they can both keep watching the hockey game on the TV.
Philo @36, not a rant. You make one of the best and clearest-cut cases for pro-choice advocacy that I have read since the election results came in. We must all come together as the Loyal Opposition to help preserve the principle of reproductive choice as a basic human right, and prevent further erosion of that right over the next four years...and, if you are at all religious or spiritual, please join me in praying that all our living Supremes still have a few more good years left in 'em.
The witch in _Hansel and Gretel_ is often played by a tenor. In most of the several productions I've seen, the part was played by a man, with campy fake breasts. In fact, I remember the spectacular bursting of a beanbag breast in a dress rehearsal.
@39 Rokchok: I know I'm not going to want PIV, if ever again, for a long, long time.
What chills me is knowing that, although he lives in a distant blood red state and hasn't
tried contacting me in a long time, my anger-obsessed, mentally unhinged ex-spouse
is most likely laughing his ignorant ass off right now after so abysmal an election.
We are still left to speculate about the identity of the first woman elected. Let us hope that even Mr Miller does not want Mrs C to run again, and Mrs O has wisely declined. But the more I consider the matter, the more I think our surrogate could build herself a nice political resume in about ten years or so, assuming it takes a little time to . And it would be rather delicious to see her gain something to compensate her for her greatest failure. With all that in mind, I advance for the consideration of the assembled company as president-elect of 2028: Michelle Kwan.
The mezzo was changed to a tenor some 20 years after the first performance at the end of the 19th century. The composer altered the music and only a man could deliver, but it never called for a campy, draggy interpretation.
I’m aware that some of us who grew up on horrible depictions of any shade of trans may be a bit sensitive to the issue, as it may have affected our own self-esteem and possibly contributed to others’ fear and hatred.
The campy version is fairly new and was probably included in this particular production in order to be seen as “cool.” The opera’s only ads on this site- catering mostly to hip youngsters, aging queers, and other disappointed liberals- featured nothing but the most grotesque pictures of the witch’s appearance.
I was unpleasantly surprised that we had to go through this again in this time and age, and I hope the young boys and girls who watched the show will grow up to be who they are and be accepted by their parents.
I’m delighted that the life-long Bellevue republican grandparents are already with us.
That’s what she said.
Michelle Kwan, hmm. I prefer Elizabeth Warren. But celebrity appears to be superior to political prowess in this day and age, so your choice may be the best strategically.
I'm from Oklahoma, so the racism and misogyny Trump showcased in this election wasn't a departure from the typical deplorable background radiation I'm used to.
And that's the thing about Republican awfulness: yes, you really do get used to it.
Living in a red state is a lot like living with a debilitating chronic illness: everything is fucked but your perception becomes so warped that the degree of awful doesn't really register except when you mention a symptom to someone on the outside and they are horrified.
For example: Our schools had to shut down early because they didn't have enough money to keep the lights on. To cut costs, they're hiring people to teach who are not certified to teach. That keeps the first grade class sizes down to about 30 six year olds per classroom. No, no teaching aids. Just one adult teaching 30 six year olds to read.
Or: My husband got a raise and it knocked us into a higher taxes bracket. So our state taxes went down.
Or: Our state has been having earthquakes that are serious enough to cause major property damage. They are the direct result of wastewater disposable from fracking, so insurance companies refuse to cover the damages. The cities started banning fracking. Our city council blocked fracking under our water supply . The state responded by banning cities from banning fracking.
Or: We have a combined 9% sales tax. On food.
This is all what passes for "normal" in states controlled by Republicans. It's a neat trick: Republicans break the government, then the voters are disgusted by the dysfunction so they hate government, so they vote for people who run on how much they hate government. Then those people get elected and they break the government.
And when government is broken, the quality of life deteriorates. Which drives people to the prosperity gospel churches. (That’s a-whole-nother can of worms.) And that, of course, just makes things worse. Meanwhile, women and minorities become convenient targets. It makes them feel better about their own shitty lives to have someone to be "better than."
We got the fuck out a few months before the election and I can't tell you how glad I am that we did.
vote. It all appears very corrupt and very undemocratic. America, the banana 🍌 republic.
I thought Susan Saradon was looking toward being the first female president.
Our PM is bending over to accomodate the illegitimate president-elect, because trade and Australia 🇦🇺 just can't get by without our daddy country , 🇺🇸.
Public education in your country, for school children, doesn't sound very adequate.
No wonder so much of the population is ignorant. And the Republican leadership, the White mainly male one, they gonna screw everybody a bit more. And so nobody notices, this trump man and his cronies, gets you to turn on each other.
It's like watching a narcissistic daddy playing mind fucks with his family. Keeping them scared, so they are easily manageable.
There's lots of books around describing narcissistic behaviour and how to deal with it.
Rokchok @39: Are you referring to sex's occasional negative side effects like pregnancy or STDs? If not, could you elaborate on how sex makes things worse? I know sex can't magically make Donald Trump not president, but it can certainly make the participants forget about who's president for a brief and enjoyable while.
MiscKitty @47: Sad, but very enlightening. Thanks for your perspective.
In short, getting rid of the EC will be a herculean task. It's worth the effort and we should absolutely move in that direction, but in the meantime, we need to pursue other avenues for change as well. Eliminating gerrymandering comes to mind.
Also, if you want an idea of just how bad education in this country is, consider this: Texas has a great deal of control over what information is included in textbooks that are used nationwide. And they are pushing for textbooks that "promote Christian fundamentalism, boost conservative political figures, and force-feed American 'exceptionalism,' while downplaying the historical contributions of minorities."* California is pushing back, but the results are still pretty grim. Just one example: the 2015 textbooks present slavery as “a side issue to the Civil War."
Houston Press goes into more detail here:
http://www.houstonpress.com/news/5-reaso…
*http://www.nea.org/home/39060.htm
BTW: #1. Election Day was my birthday, &, #2., I was prepping for an invasive medical procedure the next day.
The election was horrible for many & some people have it wayyyyy worse than I do going into Trump's America. But that is definitely the worst. Birthday. EVER.
@47 MiscKitty: Oklahoma sounds like an particularly horrible state to live in. Earthquakes from fracking--but they still call climate change a "hoax"? School dismissals just because they "can't afford to keep the lights on"? I'm glad to read that you and your husband moved somewhere else, hopefully less blood red.
@48 & @49 LavaGirl: So spot on. I'm sorry to learn that the Australian government is so dependent upon the U.S. for trade.
Speaking of which, I have a dumb question: where do I take my marginally existent music business from here? Did you visit my website and / or listen to my composed music?
What did you think? If I will always just be ekeing by--I'd personally as well as professionally be living my passion. I would love to have your thoughts.
@52 Gou Tongzhi: I just did, too.
@53 Eva Hopkins: I am really sorry that your birthday was on election day--that sucks!
Sending TLC hugs, VW beeps, and a speedy recovery.
How long have you been together? How truly committed are you to each other? Are you socially, politically, and sexually compatible (including a reasonable match-up of libidos?) Are you still in the early NRE (new relationship energy) phase of your relationship, or have you been together long enough to see each others warts and deficiencies, and decide you can overlook them and still commit to a lifetime of all the struggle, sacrifices, and compromises it takes to make a successful marriage? If you're sure you're doing the right thing, and you and your boyfriend truly know you want to commit to a life together, good luck, I'll support you completely - just be sure this is what you really want before you make an irrevocable commitment, which will impact the rest of your life. I can understand your anxiety, just be very sure you are quite aware of what you're signing up for if you decide to get married, and what your motives and expectations are.
I read Dylan isn't going to Sweden. He's very grateful however to be receiving the Nobel
Prize.
He's my music of choice during these turbulent times. His words and music coming from a previous turbulent time.
I wish I could give more to others right now -- the Trevor Project, the Environmental Defense Fund, and so many others whose work will be sorely tested these days.
@18 Sublime Afterglow: Music, Volkswagens, and cats for me it is, then. Bless you and President Hillary Clinton for the wonderful suggestion. These are what keep my spirits uplifted, and continue to be most therapeutic.
PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE ABOUT TRUMP'S TRAFFICKING OF UNDERAGE MODELS AND SHARE WIDELY!
As well as Clinton has won over a million more votes than trump. Sign the petition. Can't hurt. The change.org guy seems to be doing a sensible job. Taken it up full time.
Please email me---I'd love to know how you and your family are doing.
Everybody be strong, resilient, safe, and healthy this Thanksgiving.
It's bizarre---my mother was pregnant with me on 11/22/1963 when
U.S President John F. Kennedy was brutally assassinated in Dallas.
This year's horrifically tragic election results are leaving me as many
have said they felt on Thanksgiving, 53 years ago.
Monthly donation in the lowest amount that lets them count me as a member - which in each case was $5/month. Seeing as how I spend $5/day on coffee and/or beer daily, I figured I could swing it. Also, all of my nearest and dearest (except my own offspring) are going to get the same Christmas present from me this year: a donation made in their name to a progressive organization that I think they would identify with. Some on my list are the Nature Conservancy, Greenpeace, Doctors Without Borders, and some smaller regional or local organizations that specialize in immigration advocacy. The Northwest Immigrants Rights Project is a good one.
(Haha, see what I did there?) :D