Dadddy @115: I'm confused. Why have you posted that link? You're certainly not presenting as an example of one of the "stellar men" she talks about. Was it to "prove" me wrong for rejecting your previous link to an article from 1991 by finding one from 2016? If so, you're not listening.

The conversation has evolved since 1991. We have lots and lots of new input. If someone in 2016 had read Iron John and developed no further, they were not listening. Listen to what women are saying.

And when I say "women", I use the word in exactly the same way as the women in this thread use the word "man". Not all men. Just a whole fucking lot of them.

Honestly, this worst part of this conversation - and I mean in the world; not just this thread - is that "men" presume to dismiss what "women" are saying. Listen to the women. They're singing in unison.

fubar @96, @108, & @119 and kristofarian @109 and @116: Thank you both and bless you.
@112 LavaGirl: Agreed and seconded.

Keep on rocking the house, Dan the Man, and all you guys out there who are openly and equally supportive of women.

118

Fuck it.
It's time for women to hold up half the Sky.

"When" I get to that stage, Dadddy @114? Don't hold your breath. When society as a whole gets there, I will too. Think we'll both be long dead by then, unless men en masse start listening a lot harder to women than they are now. The gender pay gap is widening, and sex offenders are in the White House and on the Supreme Court. But thanks for confirming that we're at cross purposes because you do dig the gender-biased status quo. Top tip, women don't appreciate men trying to "teach" us the same gendered rubbish that's been shoved at us since birth. I'm afraid it's you who have nothing to "teach" the women in your life, and I suggest you stop trying, because we aren't children and surprise surprise we get a bit angry when you treat us that way. Gee, wonder why women like Lava are bitter after decades of such condescension? Hmm.

I’m not bitter Fan. I’m a white woman in a safe country, and I love my life.
I have zero tolerance for the kind of sexism Dadddy sprouts. Enough of it gets seen all over the web, and one passes it by. Why bother.
These threads of Dan’s are different.

Dadddy @122: Wow. Burn. Good one!

@Dadddy: Word up: You're not my father, nor are you my keeper; you have nothing to "teach" me, and I don't need to be "fixed". You and your equally cowardly, prehistoric-minded, trolling ilk can all fuck off, already. Your wretched kind are soon to become extinct because you need us women infinitely more than so many of us will ever need or want the sorry likes of you.

"@fubar: A true conversation doesn't happen in one direction." --ohdaDDDy

"One thing we learned was to listen. These days, it's a good idea to listen to what virtually all the women are saying about their experiences. Ditto for people of colour, different sexual and gender configurations." --fubar

You're still NOT Listening, ohdaDDDy.

The Patriarchy & Mansplainin' have sealed your ears,
closed your eyes yet loosed your tongue.

That's okay -- Attrition is yours -- and our! -- Friend.

Dadddy @126: No, dude, I am deprecating you. I'm not sure what you think that word means, but where I come from, it means obsolete and to be avoided, which fits you perfectly. I will attempt to do exactly that, going forward. You're a troll and a condescending turd.

Decrepit, deprecate, depreciate, denigrate, degenerate.

So many words; so little Time...

When did Xina take over LavaGirl's account?

This is certainly the definitive meaning of "with extra lobster." I can't explain why it took so long to think of this:
https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/05/07/26146071/savage-love-letter-of-the-day-the-hole-truth/comments/22

@129 fubar: Agreed, seconded, and bravo!
@131: xina, LavaGirl, I, and others can all individually speak for ourselves. Obviously that's what has got you so scared shitless. You, Dadddy, Hunter, and your sad little army of dateless trolls are still not getting it are you, Sporty?

Who is Xina? I don't see any comments by a Xina in this thread.

Funny, not, Sportlandia. I speak for myself as do the other women here, as Grizelda has pointed out.
You dear boy are a worry. So long to get thru your head that you are on your way to being more like these men, Dadddy and hunter, if you don’t pull your head in.
Patronising adult women is for losers.

@134 curious2: xina is a regular commenter, usually on Slog. You're right, she has not posted here--yet. For some inexplicable 50 millionth century, B.C. rationalization, Sporty has this bizarre idea that xina, LavaGirl, and I are one and the same. Methinks it's really that Sporty himself, out of sheer cowardice, uses multiple screen names, as if that makes him big and badass. All he is doing is further demonstrating his sorry trolling status.
@135 LavaGirl: Agreed, seconded, and spot on. Keep on rocking the house!

@136 auntie grizelda
Thanks. Ah yes I do recall seeing comments from xina elsewhere.

"...idea that xina, LavaGirl, and I are one and the same."

I can't believe that you and and LavaGirl are the same person. Everything about your comments are different.

"...it's really that Sporty himself...uses multiple screen names..."

I find myself surprised by how different his posts as Sportlandia are! But it would surprise me if he used multiple accounts to comment from, since I haven't noticed a reluctance to be associated with any kind of comment from his Sportlandia account (and that's one common reason for someone using a 2nd account)..

@136 why would I use two accounts? To say what?

Grizzy, have you asked your family about your growing signs of dementia? You're paranoid and lashing out. I hear that begins to happen around your age.

@138: Methinks it is YOU who uses multiple sign-in accounts to camouflage who you really are. Cop to it, fer krissake! Sporty, have you seen your doctor yet about your truly wanton delusions of self-appointed grandeur? Your levels of ignorance and macho arrogance are atrocious. Maybe a good snip at your local proctologist's would do the trick.Your tighty-whities must be riding up.

@138: Methinks it is YOU who log in under multiple screen names to camouflage your real self. Cop to it, fer krissake! Sporty, have you seen your doctor lately about your bizarre delusions of self-appointed grandeur? A snip at your local proctologist's should do the trick. Your tighty-whities must be riding up.

@138: Dementia, my ass, Sporty. Go look in your bathroom mirror.