Savage Love Dec 25, 2019 at 4:00 am

Open Ended

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I know the conversation has long since moved on, but I just wanted to point out that the expert, and some commenters, seemed to equate being scared BBB was going to leave her for a guy with thinking he's going to turn/turn out gay.

BBB's gf has a frame of reference bc she can imagine herself in an outside os relationship and feel confident, in the same way other guys ultimately can't compete with him, other girls can't compete with her. The gf may also feel more confident that she can "directly" compete on similar characteristics with other women or that any small differences in characteristics to characteristic comparisons will be made up for by their time together.

With an ss relationship, however, there are certain things the main os partner can never directly compete with. The ss person knows, from a personal perspective, how to pleasure your partner in a way that you or another os person never will. There's also socialization, experiences and personal issues that ss people are more likely to share that an os partner isn't.

Open relationships are always going to involve insecurity and just because those insecurities are different for os vs ss relationships, and maybe one is scarier for a person than the other, doesn't necessarily mean it's biphobia.

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Oh, also regarding BBB, I know everyone else seems to be gone, but oh well:

"One of her rules was that I could get together only with women, no men. It bothered me at the time, but it was the only way she would be okay opening up, so I didn't press her on it...To be honest, if we weren't in an open relationship, I wouldn't be bothered by the fact that I can't be sexual with men."

It kind of sounded to me like she didn't want to open things up at all initially. Maybe that was just me bc no one else seemed to think that, but if that's the case I think it's pretty unfair for BBB to expect her to be comfortable changing things all of a sudden (or maybe ever). If opening things up this much wasn't what she wanted/is something she had a hard time with anyways and she said being with men was just a step she couldn't handle insecurity-wise it seems pretty unfair of him to claim he'd be ok not being with men if they hadn't opened things up and for him to now expect her to be ok with it.


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