Iām gay and go to a small liberal arts school. I have a crush on this one guy, but he brought up ā unprompted ā that heās Aro/Ace. I really like him. We have great conversations in a lab we have together, and I think heās super attractive. But every time Iāve tried to extend our friendship outside of the lab by suggesting we study together or go see a movie we both want to see, he seems closed off to the idea. I donāt know what to do. I can just be sad about it, I guess. Or is there a chance he might be attracted to me? I think he enjoys talking to me. And I definitely enjoy being around him.
Anxiously Ruminating On A Crushing Experience
Quick definition of terms: Someone whoās aromantic (Aro) doesnāt experience romantic attraction. While some...
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Iām gay andĀ go to a small liberal arts school. I have a crush on this one guy, but he brought up āĀ unprompted ā that heās Aro/Ace. I really like him. We have great conversations in a lab we have together, and I think heās super attractive. But every time Iāve tried to extend our friendship outside of the lab by suggesting we study together or go see a movie we both want to see, he seems closed off to the idea. I donāt know what to do. I can just be sad about it, I guess. Or is there a chance he might be attracted to me? I think he enjoys talking to me. And I definitely enjoy being around him.
Anxiously Ruminating On A Crushing Experience
Quick definition of terms: Someone whoās aromantic (Aro) doesnāt experience romantic attraction. While some aromantic people want partners ā or want a partnership and are willing to tolerate/simulate romance to get one ā others donāt want a partner. Itās a (sigh) spectrum. Someone whoās asexual (Ace) doesnāt experience sexual attraction but might be down to fuck. Itās (sigh) a spectrum. Now, lots of things exist along spectra, including (big sigh) sexual orientation ā the famous Kinsey ScaleĀ represents a spectrum ā but the asexual spectrum is so broad as to be meaningless, running the gamut fromĀ sex-repulsed asexualsĀ (disgusted by the thought of sex, donāt want to have sex, donāt want to be reminded that other people do) toĀ asexual slutsĀ (donāt experience sexual attraction, fucks for other reasons, and fucks a ton).
Basically, we live in an era ā or weāre living through the tail end of an era ā when words mean whatever we want them to mean, people are allowed to use whatever words they like or invent new ones, no one is ever bullshitting themselves or anyone else, and only gatekeepers get gatekept.
All that said, AROACE, itās highly unlikely your lab partner brought up his Aro/Ace status unprompted. You may not have told him you find him attractive ā you may not have said those words to him ā but it sounds like there were tells: the way you look at him, the way you lit up when he spoke to you, the way you asked him out on what were essentially dates. Aro/Ace boys may not experience romantic or sexual attraction, but theyāre not dense ā they can tell when someone is interested in them romantically or sexually ā and this boy knows youāre into him. Which is fine! Youāre allowed to find hot guys hot! And youāre allowed to ask hot guys out! But you have to take ānoā for an answer, AROACE, whether the ānoā is explicit or implicit. And when this boy brought up his Aro/Ace identities, he was letting you know the answer is āno.ā Think of it as a variation on, āItās not you, itās me,ā something people say when theyāre trying to let someone they like down easy.
And even if this boy is the kind of aromantic person who wants to have a partner, AROACE, and even if he lives at the slutty end of the asexual spectrum, the fact that he brought the Aro/Ace thing up the way he did is a good indication that he doesnāt see you as a potential partner⦠if heās even interested in having a partner, romantic and/or sexual, which he may not be.
So, sad it is, AROACE, but hopefully not sad for long.
P.S. If youāre interested in being his friend, AROACE, you could say this to him: āI asked you to study alone together sometime or go see a movie because Iām attracted to you. But I understand that only a friendship is possible here, since youāre Aro/Ace, which I totally get and completely respect. Iām happy to hang out as friends, if youāre interested in being friends outside of class. If not ā not yet or not ever ā no hard feelings, and I promise not to be weird.ā
Gay cis guyĀ in a small town, mid-40s and between relationships at the moment. Iāve been developing what might be a kink and wonder about it. I go to a gym in town with a nice weight room. Most guys using it are younger than me and a high percentage (like 90%) wear headphones or earbuds when lifting and are lost in their own auditory worlds. I have my own earbuds in. One day last month my ear buds ran out of juice. I realized that the guys lifting couldnāt hear themselves, and some of them were making really loud and hot noises ā moaning, grunting, panting and so forth as they were lifting. I donāt think they know how loud they are or what they sound like. One guy in particular doing squats has a pattern of working up to louder and louder noises and ending in an almost orgasmic grunt/moan combo on his last lift in a set. Iāve been getting into listening to all these sounds and reacting to the point that Iām wearing a sturdy jock on weight days to avoid any, um, visible reactions.
Anyway, itās a small town and Iām careful not to ogle the cute guys in the gym or in the shower (well maybe a quick glance). But secretly listening to the lifters as they grunt and moan in the weight room has become an obsession. Itās done wonders for my weight routine but seems creepy, even though Iām looking at the wall and not at them, and they have no idea Iām getting off on their sounds. Iāve thought about recording on my iPhone to jerk off to later but havenāt. (Too creepy!) Is this harassment or abuse? Should I stop and tune back into the Black Keys at high volume on my earbuds to drown out these hot grunts and moans? And is there a name for this kink of mine?
Making Orgasmic Auditory Noises
That kink of yours has a name:Ā auralism. Thatās when certain sounds ā like listening to hot guys at the gym moan, grunt, pant, etc. ā can get you going or even (in rare cases) get you off.
So long as youāre not visibly aroused, MOAN, and so long as youāre not staring at guys and/or making them aware that youāre aroused, your behavior ā your leering ears ā exists on the spectrum of āpermissible secret perving.ā We are allowed to take private pleasure, even sexual pleasure, from the random stimuli we encounter as we move through the world, so long as we donāt disturb or upset others. So, just as discreetly enjoying the eye candy has always been one of the perks of going to the gym, discreetly enjoying the ear candy doesnāt constitute harassment or abuse.
Quick digression: On the most recent episode ofĀ After-Action ReportĀ ā my new podcast ā I spoke with a woman who has a sneeze fetish. Sheās allowed to leave the house during cold-and-flu season to enjoy the sights and sounds of hot strangers sneezing in airports and grocery stores! So long as she isnāt visibly aroused ā so long as she can wait until she gets home to buzz one out ā thereās nothing wrong with the pleasure she takes from random strangers sneezing in front of her. Same standard applies to you, MOAN: so long as you arenāt doing anything that makes other people uncomfortable ā and other people are the ultimate judge of that ā youāre allowed to enjoy the moans, groans, and grunts of the men at your gym.
Making a recording while youāre at the gym, however, falls into an ethical and legal gray zone. Depending on where you live, MOAN, recording a conversation without the consent of both/all parties is a crime. (But do grunts and moans count? Youād have to ask a lawyer.) And even if making audio recordings in a public place is legal where you live, it feels more invasive than simply listening. That said, everyone is recording everything everywhere now ā especially at the gym ā and for frankly worse reasons. The world is full of pranksters, influencers, and Karens making and uploading videos in the hopes of going viral at someone elseās expense. Quietly capturing a few seconds of āroom soundā at the gym for your own private enjoyment later seems less problematic ā it seems far less abusive ā than posting a video to your Instagram of someoneās bad form to mock them or uploading the worst moment in someone elseās life to your socials to boost your follower count.
Dear Readers: Thanksgiving is on Thursday āĀ hereās hoping everyone has a nice one āĀ and I wanted to mark the holiday by sharing this classic Thanksgiving-related question from the archives. Happy holidays! āĀ Dan
Something is botheringĀ me, Dan, and I donāt know where else to turn. Iām a bisexual man. Iāve been married to a great guy for the past six years. Despite COVID, we gathered safely for an outdoor Thanksgiving dinner with my family. My mom, my brother and sister-in-law, and my adult nieces and nephews and their partners were there. Each household contributed to the feast, and we had a wonderful evening. While my husband and I were snuggling in bed later he said that my casserole was a big hit thanks to the āsecret ingredient.ā When I asked what he meant, he informed me that he had deposited my cum from a blowjob heād given me earlier that day into my half-finished casserole. When I asked why he did this, he said he thought it was hot and he was aroused watching my family ingest it. To me, this seems a bit twisted and feels like a deeply disrespectful act toward my family. Now I cannot sleep, and it is impossible for me to think of anything else. I wish he had never told me.
Confused And Shuddering Sleeplessly, Entirely Revolted Over Loaded EntrƩe
Some questions you suspect are fake, some questions you know are fake, and some questions you hope are fake. I wish this question fell into the second category ā a question I knew to be fake ā but I once got a letter from a man who would excuse himself at dinner parties, quickly rub one out in the bathroom, and then dip the bristles of his hostsā toothbrushes in his semen. (That was twenty years ago, and Iām still securing my toothbrush in a secret, undisclosed location when we have guests.) So as much as I wished we lived in a world where something like this could never happen, CASSEROLE,Ā we donāt live in that world.
That said⦠some details donāt add up.
Iāve been on the receiving end of plenty of blowjobs, CASSEROLE, and thereās always a tell when a guy doesnāt immediately swallow. A man whoās holding your load in his mouth has a certain look; his mouth and jaw are set in a particular and revealing way. Thereās also no post-blowjob kissing or snuggling. And if you were to say, āThank you, that was great,ā and they hummed back, āMmm-hmm,ā instead of saying, āYouāre welcome,ā you would know the guy didnāt swallow. But you would have us believe your husband somehow gave you a blowjob and somehow didnāt swallow and you somehow didnāt notice and then⦠did what exactly? Strolled around the house with a mouth full of cum until the opportunity to defile your casserole presented itself?
Then againā¦
Impromptu blowjobs sometimes happen, CASSEROLE, and they sometimes happen in kitchens. So, I suppose itās possible your husband interrupted you while you were making a casserole and then spat your load into the casserole and managed to give it a quick stir⦠without you noticing the spit or the stir? Sounds improbable. But your husband could have created a diversion ā a post-blowjob diversion ā that took your attention away from your casserole long enough to execute this spit-and-stir maneuver. But even if he did all of this ā blew you, didnāt swallow, created a diversion, spat your semen into your Thanksgiving casserole ā would he tell you about it? The guy who was glazing at his friendās toothbrushes didnāt brag to his friends about it. He wrote to me about it, described it as a compulsion, and asked for advice about stopping. That your husband would be so clueless as to think you wouldnāt be revolted by this is, if youāll forgive me, a little hard to swallow.
Stillā¦
If your nieces and nephews are adults⦠itās possible you and your husband are getting up there⦠and he could be suffering from early-onset dementia; inappropriate sexual behavior and poor impulse control are symptoms.
So, on the off, off, off chance this actually happened, CASSEROLE, hereās my advice: If your husband spat your load into a half-finished casserole and then watched your whole family consume it and then assumed you would think it was hot and isnāt suffering from dementia, CASSEROLE, then you absolutely, positively need to divorce him. Let us count the ways you canāt trust this man: you canāt trust him with your semen, you canāt trust him not to feed your cum to your mother, you canāt trust him around your siblings and nieces and nephews. You canāt even leave him in the company of an unaccompanied casserole. So, unless you looked into his eyes on your wedding day and thought, āThis is a guy who would feed a woman her own sonās semen and Iām fine with that,ā your husband isnāt the guy ā great or otherwise ā you thought he was when you married him. Heās a monster and what he did was unforgivable, even criminal.Ā Divorce the asshole.
P.S. Some will urge you to go to the police and press charges for sexual assault ā those casserole leftovers may contain DNA evidence ā but youāll have to weigh involving the police against burdening your mother with the knowledge of your Thanksgiving casseroleās secret ingredient.
P.P.S. A casserole is really more of a side dish at Thanksgiving, isnāt it?
Dan Again: This question originally ran on December 8, 2020, and I think I speak for everyone when I say, āHey, CASSEROLE! If youāre real and if youāre reading this, we would love to an update. Are you still married to this guy? If so, have you ever let him blow you again? Is he even allowed in the kitchen? We wanna know!ā
P.S. How can readers know for sure I donāt write the letters that appear in the column? Because if I wrote the letters,Ā I would write updates.
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