I never thought I would say tRump had a good idea but...

Yes, lets bring asylum seekers to cities like LA, SF, NYNY or Seattle, we can hook them up with pro bono legal firms that specialize in immigration, get them some benefits, and hopefully get them green cards.

Then we provide free transportation to the MAGAs so they can all move to Idaho, Montana or some other red state.

A funny example of how Trump truly doesn't understand anyone not of his own kind. He would actually get way more of the desired rage-self-peeing by placing the human pawns in more xenophobic areas.

YES!
NWHL to Seattle!

We might get that taco truck on every street corner yet.

@3: Has the best fried catfish and collard greens in the state through, at 'Mama's House' right on 2nd and Main across from the library.

"He [Prez[ really is the target audience for Fox News."

It's how Rupert Murdoch shapes his World
as if it were his very own.

Thank Gawd when Rs took out Harvey Weinstein, they also took out Bellows O'Liarly and Rodger "Dodger" Goebbels/Aliles or we'd already be Armageddonning like there was No tomorrow..

@1 so you just want immigrants to come here and then go somewhere else?

@3 I really try to never respond to any of your comments. But have you been to SC?

@2 also have you ever been outside of a 1st/2nd world country?

GermanSausage dear, a lot of migrants do end up in rural areas, because the citizens who live there are often too dumb, old, or drug-addled to be very productive. Iowa and Nebraska have sizable Latino populations because SOMEBODY has to do some work.

@10: But I trust you still reminisce about the beauty and simplicity of the heartland where you grew up and the sweet memories of playing in the corn fields and running home on the sweet smell of Aunt Emma's apple pie coming out of the oven.

@10,

Every morning, the citizens of Buttfuck, South Carolina, proceed to the bathroom to deposit that day's ration of German Sausage.

@10 Amazing. I always figured that they head straight to Seattle and get a job at Amazon writing code for less than minimum wage. Can you imagine amongst the liberal class if they did?

People who think that huge security details are going to protect them if it all goes to shit will have a rude awakening. Objectively those best able to deal with some kind of de-growth will be those who make cooperation central to their organization. Thinking that competition and pointing guns at people is going to take them anywhere is just naive and stupid, i.e. a case of believing one's own propaganda so to speak.

@15

Never mind that, what if immigrants were preparing food for the urban liberal elite? Can you even "imagine amongst," as our perpetually renamed friend puts it?

@1 Yes!

Oh good Lord, Raindrop.Did you overdose on reruns of "Petticoat Junction"? That Norman Rockwell jazz never existed. Farm work is hard and dirty. "Aunt Emma" spent her days in a hot kitchen, either cooking for her huge family and the farmhands, or doing laundry for her huge family and the farmhands. And cornfields aren't much fun to play in. The can scratch the hell out of you.

"And cornfields aren't much fun to play in."

Unless you're from outer space.

@15 Pretty sure those coming across our southern border illegally are not driving down Seattle tech workers' wages.

Just look at how this city assists the needy and unsheltered right now. Check it out.
Come on, the city can’t stop ICE from kidnapping migrants as it is and ICE headquarters still sits downtown unmolested by city authorities. This mayor is using this issue as a PR campaign when her track record is beneath contempt.

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Hundreds of homeless people have died since a state of emergency was declared. And it has gotten worse under the Durken administration. The sweeps of encampments by the city have made matters worse driving people from the little shelter they have to the streets and into continued desperation. The city spend MILLIONS harassing the poor without providing positive alternatives such as broadening a Housing First option and treating people with dignity. So she is going to welcome more poor people!? Right now the options for many are the streets or jail. That is neoliberalism.

First of all we can demand that the city stop the sweeps and start treating people with dignity. We can stop this cruel cycle of abuse.

@25 Yeah god forbid they not be able to shoot up heroin and avoid all responsibility.

Anyone else remember the 2016 Great Hobo Shuffle under I5 where 75% of “residents” refused shelter when offered?

"Seattle’s notorious Jungle homeless encampment has finally been cleared.

Aid workers say the last of 357 people camped in the greenbelt next to and under I-5 were moved out this past week.

“It is empty,” exulted Jeff Lilley, the head of Union Gospel Mission, which led the city’s months-long outreach efforts.

One might think this would be hailed as good news, considering that eight months ago there was a mass shooting in The Jungle, and seven months ago a city report called it a “humanitarian disaster” in one of America’s richest cities.

But down at the City Council, the clear-out was given a big “meh” by some council members. They noted that in the end, 75 percent of The Jungle’s residents refused offers of help, housing or shelter — proving the cleanup basically failed and shouldn’t be repeated."

"Hundreds of homeless people have died since a state of emergency was declared. "

You mean OD'd.

@25 Oh no, sweep more. The 24% who want help get it. The 76% who don't, go back from where they came or to jail. I'll pay for that:

"Of 357 folks counted living in The Jungle last spring, all were contacted multiple times with offers of temporary shelter, legal help, alcohol or drug rehab (which typically includes housing) or financial assistance to reunite with family.

In the end, 87 accepted — 24 percent."

26 27 28 You do not know what you are talking about. Your hate campaign is wrong. The sweeps include bulldozing their shelters, not providing SUITABLE options and destroying community. Taking their belongings, frequently giving people 3 days to move and only providing a mat on the floor as shelter. Some people work and many come from abusive situations. The city will not provide dumpsters for garbage or porto potties. You blame the victims of poverty not the perpetrators. The accumulation of wealth is a machine for poverty.
Criminalizing people makes things worse. Shunting people in an out of jail harms and kills.
Not just them but their struggling families and friends. Austerity has driven many into poverty.

Suitable options and treating addiction as a public health issue are not provided.
Many are not addicts by the way and addicts ARE human beings. People that died from cold and/ or addiction are human beings not sub human as you would depict them. People who knew them grieve for them. If many could afford a place to live they would do so and would not be outside. What are you addicted to? These bigoted lies which benefit the rich and the austerity campaign.

You should be ashamed of yourselves that you condemn the most vulnerable and maintain a racist, classist and sexist status quo.

“Suitable options“

What, the pillows weren’t fluffy enough at the shelter offered to the Jungleites?

Your narrative is dying. Give it up.

Its whack a mole and people go back again since there is no where else. The sweeps kill and make it worse. Its a waste of people and money. IT DOES NOT WORK.

30 Sure people died because the pillows weren’t fluffily enough. Stupid. Can you think?
You are pathetic. Go away.

@1
Right.
With 50,000 living on the streets let's import thousands more.
Surely we will do better by them.

@14
We always figured when it hits the fan those security folks will put a bullet in the head of their employers and take the compounds for themselves.

Its hard to believe the ignorance and cruelty of you people. You sound like nazis and we may well be on target.

That previous comment was meant for #30 and the likes.

@35 Your narrative ship is sinking. Keep bailing!

@20: It most certainly did exist because it inspired his art. And he committed it to canvas very realistically for which his decades of admirers related to, and sent his critics searching for words for an an exit of sanctimonious deference.

Raindrop dear, you are the poster child for the affliction of literal-mindedness. Norman Rockwell created a stylized version of American life, in part to sell advertising. Saying that his vision actually existed is like saying that MGM musicals were a documentary of American life, or that the old westerns were realistic portrayals of the settlement of the American west.

It was an aspirational era for the US, and Rockwell captured that nicely. But that's it. Those people who claim to aspire to take us back to that "great" time are fools and charlatans.

@34 Anyone who doesn’t follow zee official narrative is a Nazi!

@37/38 I'm 57, air force brat, lived NE, SE US and CA, visited poor kin in KY and Chicago during moves, endured sulphur water kool-aid, nightly tick removal in KY and flattened pennies on the tracks behind my aunts house in Chicago when the railroad bulls weren't chasing us off. Maybe it was only a fraction but I actually saw real life Rockwell images in the 60's. They weren't all fantasy. One of my aunts worked for Cracker Jack in Chicago when there were real toys in the box. We couldn't wait to go visit Chicago. I can still remember riding in the sleeper car between there and Boston. Don't think I've ever slept better since!

36 No its you dearie. Your world is imaginary,

42 The mayor of Seattle is a liar and a phony of the worst kind. Please investigate her history before you take her word for anything.

@42 Talking to yourself again?

Durkan buys the hobo industrial complexe’s “houseless neighbors” bullshit hook line and sinker. Luckily that worm is turning. She’ll flip once the concentration camp enablers on the city council get tossed.

43 She’ll flip for whatever is convenient for her. So what do you get out of it?

An NWHL team coming to Seattle? That would be cool. We need to promote more women's teams.
Timmy Eyesore has been a boil on the butt of Washington State humanity ever since he peddled his first frathouse watch.
@38 Catalina Vel-DuRay: I keep warning sugarlips @6, @11, and @37 about his dangerously high triglyceride levels, but he never listens.

@38: The characters of American life influenced him. That he sold advertising or his relationship with the Saturday Evening Post does not negate his art. All artists promote themselves commercially. St. Georgia O'Keefe was panned in Europe. Her art is as commercial as Rockwell's - both formula driven. But so what? Saying 'that's about it' is illogical because we're not talking about quantity of some value. This is about style. Do like Andrew Wyeth? Do you like Edward Hopper? Hopper's my favorite.

You're confusing "aspire going back to an era" with nostalgia and romanticism. The two are very different, and the latter is never foolish.

Growing up on a family farm is the best upbringing a child can receive.

Sure, there is work.
Hard work.
Done shoulder to shoulder with parents, siblings, cousins...
And responsibility.
That is what is so beneficial about it.
Work is a virtue,
learning to love work is one of the most important traits a person can have and a necessary foundation of a satisfying worthwhile life.
Learning to love and appreciate the opportunity to do worthwhile work,
learning and developing self reliance, responsibility...
Other family businesses can and do give those experiences as well.
As each seceding generation comes along fewer and fewer kids get that opportunity and it is one of the biggest factors in the decline of our civilization.
There is no better place or way to learn actual critical Life Skills.
And absorb the moral values and collective wisdom of previous generations.
Plus extended family is the original Social Support Safety Net.
Child care, care of aged family members, job training, help during periods of underemployment or illness, opportunities for 'service' and 'giving back'; the government vainly and at crippling expense tries to reproduce what the extended family naturally innately provided.
Did we mention that the Traditional Family is the greatest anti-poverty program ever?

Sure, Norman may have idealized some but the core of what he created was real.
Real, but vanishing.

Wynn, good luck convincing the nanny state crowd. They prefer to suckle on the tit of bureaucrats.

@1 Trump isn't going to send asylum seekers to sanctuary cities. He is trolling us and feeding red meat rhetoric to the racists among his base. Be ready for it to continue 24/7 until 2020 because racism/xenophobia (and misogyny) is all he has to convince the rubes he is their guy (assuming Democrats run a genuine progressive).

Note that Islamophobia is also going to continue playing a major propaganda role as shown by the way they (Fox, New York Post, Trump et al) are using Ilhan Omar's every utterance (Democratic congress woman) to ramp up hate against brown people: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/14/ilhan-omar-republicans-silence

“Somebody did something.”

On a campus that would be called a micro aggression and students would be demanding a firing or at least forced “diversity and equity” training ie. political re-education camps.

But yeah, somebody did something.

I grew up in town, but was farm adjacent. I spent summers on farms, digging ditches, building fences and feeding chickens, as we had six farms in the family (we still have two, but they are leased now) so I know about farming. It's hard and dangerous work. It's one of the leading causes of child labor death. I had an uncle whose face was effectively sliced off when a belt on a combine snapped (he survived, but he looked like he was wearing a mask). Some years (like this year) will probably turn out to be thankless due to the flooding.

People sometimes do support each other, but all good families and communities do. There's nothing special about that. But farming is also isolating, as your next door neighbor can be miles away. One of the reasons I have always supported (normal) firearms in rural areas is that is can take awhile for the sheriff to arrive, and you really do need to defend yourself (although ironically, one of my bachelor uncle farmers was beaten to death with the stock of his own rifle after some men broke in and demanded his money and he wouldn't give it to them)

As for "the government", rural America exists only because of massive government underwriting. Everything from the Farm Bill to rural electrification. If Grand Coulee had not been built, central Washington would still be a barren desert. If the rural states were not subsidized, they would lack essential services. So all that talk about "community" and how feeble the government is flies out the window when the reality hits.

As for Rockwell, I have no quarrel with him. He was a masterful artist, and he addressed important social issues in his work. What I object to is when people conflate pieces such as "The Four Freedoms" with the reality in America at the time.

And I say that as someone who had a rather Rockwell-esque childhood. I grew up relatively affluent, with a stay-at-home mom, in a big house on a tree-lined street, next to a big park, and near a downtown which, in those days, looked like Mayberry. We even had a town square with the local paper, the Baptist church. the Carnegie library, and the grand hotel (yes, that was its name) bordering it. But below the surface was grinding poverty, drug and alcohol abuse, and all the other societal ills that we have today. It's worse now, but that's because almost all economic activity has been stripped from "the heartland"

@52

Thank you for that.
My father grew up on a farm and so did my father-in-law. They both told me many stories about Farm life before they passed away. Some of those stories were heartwarming, but many of them were heartbreaking.
Folks like 47 and 48 look at history through Rose Colored Glasses. They forget about things like crippling poverty. They forget that the American Farmer only got electricity because the government brought it to them. They forget that there would be no phone service in Rural America if it weren't for the government. They forget everything that doesn't fit their narrative.

Cat, we are sorry about your uncle.

We grew up farming, and thought it was a great way of life, and recognize the benefits it bestowed, and looking back think we were lucky.
Our father grew up in the depression in grinding heartbreaking poverty and deprivation, they did better during the times they were on the farm than when they were living in town because at least they could grow some food. It is said that many rural Americans did not know there was a depression because they already had it pretty tough.
Perhaps it is a cup half full/half empty thing.

There are things more important than 'stuff',
and the trappings we associate with prosperity can and often/usually do co-exist with grinding heartbreaking spiritual poverty and deprivation.
One can live a life of hard, even dangerous, work;
with a precarious economic situation;
and struggle mightily
and yet still have lived a rich abundant full life and find much to be grateful for.
We are thinking more The Waltons than Norman Rockwell...

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And government appropriately provides roads and coordinates utilities and provides law enforcement and courts without robbing the people of their initiative, self worth and dignity.

It is when we expect the government to shield us from any and all hardship and struggles and setbacks and sacrifices that we become soft and helpless, lacking character.
The end of that path is inevitably the dissipation and dissolution of society.

I think that what better illustrates what Catalina and Adam are talking about is the infamous song 'Coal Miner's Daughter' in drawing attention to the nostalgia of the past but how awful it was for coal miners.

I could just see a Trump 2020 campaign spoof with Trump's face superimposed with graphics of coal miners to Lorretta Lynn's infamous version in his continuing quest to bring back coal jobs.

COAL MINER'S DAUGHTER

Well, I was borned a coal miner's daughter
In a cabin, on a hill in Butcher Holler
We were poor but we had love
That's the one thing that daddy made sure of
He shoveled coal to make a poor man's dollar
My daddy worked all night in the Van Lear coal mines
All day long in the field a hoin' corn
Mommy rocked the babies at night
And read the Bible by the coal oil light
And ever' thing would start all over come break of morn
Daddy loved and raised eight kids on a miner's pay
Mommy scrubbed our clothes on a washboard ever' day
Why I've seen her fingers bleed
To complain, there was no need
She'd smile in mommy's understanding way
In the summertime we didn't have shoes to wear
But in the wintertime we'd all get a brand new pair
From a mail order catalog
Money made…

Video with lyrics:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8lchkhrxcE

The cheapest and most effective way to end chronic homelessness is to simply give them homes. No restrictions, no requirements, no "mandatory drug testing" or "mandatory employment." Just give them a home. Period.

Here's the supporting facts:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2015/04/17/the-surprisingly-simple-way-utah-solved-chronic-homelessness-and-saved-millions/

Conservatives are against that though, because then they don't get to see people humiliated, punished, and shamed. Conservatives actually want to spend MORE money purely out of spite... but that's nothing new.

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If you gave them free homes in a few months the houses would be gutted slums.

If you took the residents of a tidy neighborhood and swapped them with the residents of a slum in six months the slum would be filled with tidy well kept houses and the tidy neighborhood would be trashed.
People imprint the neighborhood they live in, not the other way around.

@58 No shit. Plus entire state of Utah had less than 3000 homeless, plus didn't have the squalid junkie camps Seattle's left is building.

Tim Eyman’s role is evolving into that of the protagonist of the Reality Tv Show within Mike Judge’s film Idiocracy. Remember the character whose purpose was to get kicked in the balls on every episode?

That’s where this is heading.