Viv, there really are Christians being slaughtered in the Congo and Nigeria on a deliberate and mass scale. A little digging on your part (see below) would have set clarified this for you but you instead belittle it by using "alleged" and saying there are Muslims being killed in the mix. Yes you're poo pooing genocide just like some said the Gaza wasn't a genocide. What goes around comes around I suppose.
There is always more info at your fingertips:
There is substantial evidence from multiple international human rights organizations, watchdog groups, and government reports indicating that Christians in Nigeria and the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) are facing severe, targeted violence, including killings that amount to slaughter on a large scale. This persecution is primarily driven by Islamist militant groups, such as Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen in Nigeria, and the Allied Democratic Forces (ADF, an ISIS affiliate) in the DRC. While both countries experience broader conflicts involving ethnic, resource, and security issues that affect Muslims as well, reports consistently highlight the disproportionate targeting of Christian communities, clergy, and villages. These incidents have escalated in 2024–2025, leading to thousands of deaths, abductions, and displacements.
I'll follow your casket
By the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand over your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead
6 “There is substantial evidence from multiple international human rights organizations” = “multiple human rights organizations allege.” You won’t find any credible media reporting on this topic that doesn’t frame christian genocide as an allegation because christians are not the only people being killed and the motives behind the killings are in dispute.
Kristo, seeing you so moved by the pumpkin, I couldn't help but recall Roberto Benigni's memorable comedic monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth."
@9: Listen, if an activist group says it's a genocide, then it's automatically a genocide! 😜 Don't give me any of this wishy-washy "motives behind the killings" nonsense, mister! 😜
So you all want an unqualified white davior to take the spot of a highly capable person of color in a position of power?? Wtf is wrong with all of you? Why isn’t her spouse working when they have a kid?? More importantly, she can’t even budget for her own family! Is she going to ask her parents to bail out Seattle, too?
By credible i mean a media outlet that follows standard operating procedures for their industry, such as not reporting allegations as definitively true until they have been confirmed. This is most media outlets, probably even fox news, but if the president doesn’t understand this minor but extremely important detail i wouldn’t expect any more from a simpleton like you who doesn’t even understand your own counter-example doesn’t support your argument.
Feel free to google the story and look for any media outlet, anyone at all, who reports as an established fact that there is a christian genocide happening in nigeria. That is the criteria for deciding whether a media outlet is credible or not, at least for the purposes of this story, because it means they are doing their job correctly.
@21: But why launder the genocide determination through a media outlet in the first place? Why not just look at the object facts in Nigeria, and then compare those facts against an accepted definition of genocide?
It's weird to me that your process would go something like, "We can't call it a genocide until a credible media outlet informs us that it is." Like, why abdicate that determination to the media? Isn't it something you can and should figure out on your own? 😂 And even if it's not something you can figure out on your own, wouldn't you want some authority other than the media to be the ones to figure it out for you? Like, why not the International Court of Justice? Or the US State Department? Or really almost any other authority! Why specifically the media? It's just a really weird position to take. 😅
But even if we accept your notion of media as the arbiters of genocide, you're still doing it wrong! 😆
In your words, "Feel free to google the story and look for any media outlet, anyone at all, who reports as an established fact that there is a christian genocide happening in nigeria. That is the criteria for deciding whether a media outlet is credible or not."
Under those criteria, there can never be a determination of genocide by a "credible media outlet," because as soon as any particular media outlets determines there's a genocide, that media outlet ceases to be credible anymore! It's heads I win, tails you lose! 🤪
There are a small number of smart ways and a large number of stupid ways to think about important questions like genocide, and yours is one of the stupid ways. 🤪
@6 why is it important to you that this be labeled a specifically Christian genocide? Are Christian lives more important to you than others? For what it's worth the US Senior Adviser on Arab and African Affairs also disagrees that the violence is specifically religiously motivated:
Merriam-Webster definition of genocide: "the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group". There's no caveat about conforming to a specific bureaucratic definition of "genocide" - it's a word in common parlance, and common parlance dictates what the "meaning" of a word is, not politicos with a vested interest in maintaining the Zionist state at all costs. Welcome to the world of linguistic science!😆😆😆😆😆😆
And seriously, has there been any election in the past thirty years in which major party candidate supporters haven't accused independent candidates and voters of being secretly racist, in league with the Russians, &c.? I guess some people just never learn! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
considering
your encyclopediac
comments on this subject
Wormtongue, I should think
this'd elicit at Least 10,000 vitriolic
barely coherent and unhinged words.
is there a Brownout
in NY (or PA) we're
not Aware of?
b. have you no
AIPAC-approved
Electrical Generator?
No, my source of definitions is linguistic science. You can always take Linguistics 101 at the U if you don't believe me - or if you can handle the academic rigor (not likely 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣). Common parlance dictates meaning - "irregardless" is a real word now because of this principle. Linguistic science isn't "fair" - it's empirical.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Last time I checked, Israel was impossible to exist without Zionism, according to you. So you can go ahead and use the terms interchangeably for all I care - it's not like it's difficult to get your drift.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@33: But who was arguing with you over the definition of the term genocide? The debate here was how best to know whether the situations in Nigeria, Congo, or Gaza meet the definition, not the lexical semantics of the definition itself. 😆 You’ve gotten yourself all hot and sweaty just from shadow-boxing! 😂
Like all of your comments, they exist full-blown in The Stranger comment section, quite apart from any of my cognitions. Besides, why assume that I'm hostile to you? I thought my comment showed real pity. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
MEANWHILE, IN SEATTLE, ignored by Slog AM (deliberately, not "progressive") and everyone constantly arguing about Israel:
Seattle police ask for help ID'ing robber who attacked, bit off finger of elderly woman
November 3, 2025
SEATTLE — Seattle police are urgently seeking the public's help identifying a man involved in the brutal robbery and assault of an 88-year-old woman in the Rainier Beach neighborhood.
The attack happened on Oct. 13, when the suspect attacked the elderly woman outside her home in the 9900 block of 64th Avenue South.
The woman was on her back porch cleaning household items when the suspect approached and demanded her belongings. After she refused, the suspect violently assaulted her and dragged her into her garage, where the attack continued.
During the assault, the suspect robbed the victim of her jewelry before biting off her finger.
...
OH? SURELY THERE IS A "DESCRIPTION" OF THIS VIOLENT AT-LARGE SUSPECT, RIGHT???
"The SPD has released several surveillance photos of the man, who is described as being in his 30s." = NOT WHITE
"She was terrified of her father's violent reaction and his abuse, and knew that in the racially biased society of the time, a black man's word would not be believed over a white woman's. By lying, she was trying to protect herself from her father's rage and abuse, even though it meant condemning Tom Robinson to a death sentence."
@10: No, but most people would consider not killing people for the religious beliefs and keeping kids away from "gender affirming" sterilization, removal or body parts, and medicalization is a good thing.
Such are the silver linings of the Trump administration.
@46 (and re 21) I could google anything. All I requested was an article, oh maybe from The Atlantic or The Nation maybe, or whatever, that will set me straight about Christians being persecuted in the Congo or in Nigeria along the lines that its been exaggerated or whatever.
But I guess you're stuck if you can't find anything.
47, What is this gibberish? You accused vivian of throwing shade at christians by saying the genocide was “alleged” because there are reports of other religious groups being killed, too. Doesn’t mean it’s not an atrocity, doesn’t mean there aren’t christians being treated poorly in that part of the world, only that the correct way to report this specific story is to say genocide is “alleged” because the charges are widely disputed.
I award today’s slog a full five emojis on the thumpmeter. 😄
Someone said, “Maybe radical Muslims sometimes commit genocide in some places?” and the Hamasnik lefties completely lost their shit! 🤣 Ha ha ha, I did not realize this was a sore spot for you guys! 😆
@47: on the one hand you have Ted Cruz and Laura Loomer claiming there is a specific Christian “genocide” in Nigeria and on the other you have people who know what they’re talking about.
Here’s a link
https://apnews.com/article/nigeria-christian-killings-claims-ted-cruz-insecurity-e9d2fb7ae02bd3169194fb60872bb3d4
In a truly sane society, Richard Bruce Cheney would have lived out his life in relative obscurity, working as a gardener or something. In a fairly sane society, people would have realized what a monster Cheney was before he could do any major harm in Washington, and he would have been driven out of any town he tried to enter. In a slightly sane society, he would have been punished for the rape of Iraq and lived out the rest of his life in a cell in The Hague.
But we do not live in a truly sane society, or in a fairly sane society, or even in a slightly sane society. We live in the sort of society that lets a man unleash a chain of events which kills millions and displaces tens of millions causing more human suffering than the mind can possibly comprehend, and then live out the rest of his life in comfort and privilege, with zero consequences of any kind.
Dick Cheney is dead now, but his legacy lives on. The damage he did is still unfolding. The hegemonic, hypermilitaristic ideology he promoted has become the baseline norm. New swamp monsters have stepped in to fill his shoes and advance the same murderous and tyrannical agendas he advanced, confident that they too will suffer no consequences and live long and comfortable lives in reward for their loyal service to the US empire.
Dick Cheney left a stain upon our species that we will spend the rest of our lives trying to scrub out. All decent people want our world to move in the exact opposite direction he spent his entire blood-spattered career working to steer us toward. All decent people want to undo everything that Dick Cheney was.
@53: thumpus heuristic: outside the realm of space opera, if you ever find yourself using the word “hegemony” or any of its derivatives, you have automatically lost whatever argument you were hoping to have 😄
@27: Actually, genocide is a specific crime, and therefore has a specific definition, which depends not at all upon "common parlance."
"In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
@29: Our friends here have spent two years in rock-solid agreement about "genocide". They know what it is when they see it -- just ask them -- and they had no problem accusing Israel of it in Gaza. It's every one of the other mass killings across the planet during that time which have given them pause, rendering them unable to, um, render a judgment on whether those killings should be called "genocide" or not. In all of those other cases, including in Israel itself on 10/7, it's just too tough for them to call. (Gee, I wonder what could have possibly differentiated Gaza from all of the rest?)
speaking of War Crimes
or just Crimes Against
fucking Humanity:
"Still can't wrap
my head around the
fact that internationally re-
nowned activist Greta Thunberg said
she was tortured and sexually humiliated by
Israeli soldiers when she was abducted for trying to bring
aid to starving civilians and the world just shrugged and moved on."
@62: “Still can't wrap my head around the fact that internationally renowned activist Greta Thunberg said she was tortured and sexually humiliated by Israeli soldiers when she was abducted”
and Cadet Bonespurs calls anyone even slightly
to the "left" of the dick fucking Cheney
"LUNATIC COMMUNIS TERRORIST RADICALS"
our dear King of the Pedanticies
Wormtongue trumpfnsorna
INSISTS we MUST Follow HIS Mandate and
Wait! till ALL parties agree IN Fucking
FULL and it becomes Universally
Acknowledged by AIPAC, Israel
and its rabidly, rapidly shrink-
ing cast of accomplices!
all to distract
and keep his 'the
Fog of War' from revealing
the utter Atrocities Israel and
US commit on the fucking Daily
in Palestine,
Okay,
wormmy.
peace plan?
Don't Make
me laugh 😆
@63 -- your
groveling complicity
is duly noted wormmy, jr 😆
@60: Yes, I wasn’t going to go there, but even after multiple, furious invocations of “linguistic science,” Libretto still managed to flub the definition of genocide. 😁 I tolerated his Miriam-Webster definition because it was close enough for purposes of this discussion, but you are correct: there is a more precise and more relevant definition of genocide, one that is not to open to reinterpretation through “common parlance.” 😂
If you are going to invoke genocide in a political or legal context, it behoves you to use the political-legal definition. If you prefer to use a layman definition, then you preclude yourself from advancing credible political or legal arguments; you confine yourself to merely rhetorical arguments. 😄 It’s not wrong, it’s just not very persuasive. 😂
But even under Libretto’s squishy, layman’s understanding of genocide, I still wouldn’t dismiss out of hand the argument that some of the Islamic radicals in Africa are engaged in genocide. Mind you, I don’t think the commenters here have put forward a strong argument that genocide is occurring in Africa, but i suspect a better-informed commentariat could. 😃
@76: "If you are going to invoke genocide in a political or legal context, it behoves you to use the political-legal definition. If you prefer to use a layman definition, then you preclude yourself from advancing credible political or legal arguments; you confine yourself to merely rhetorical arguments."
What's fun is when they ricochet from one to the other, trying to accuse Israel of genocide in Gaza, whilst ignoring the obvious: 10/7 fits the legal definition much better than either 10/7, or the IDF-Hamas war in Gaza, fits either definition. Hence word games like Libretto's, where they will simply redefine "genocide" specifically to include the IDF-Hamas war in Gaza, and exclude 10/7, whilst miserably lacking the honesty to admit what they're so obviously trying to do.
@78: '"bugger off" is an anti-homosexual, homophobic slur phrase'
kristo's still at it, eh? (Of course he is.) Back when I would use him for a foil, each episode would always feel like a peculiarly aliterate version of a "Choose Your Own Adventure" story; no matter what choices I made, or the resultant length of path, only two nearly-identical endings existed: one where he SHOUTED, "Fuck off, [cravenly stolen IP]," and the other, where he SHOUTED, "Bugger off, [cravenly stolen IP]." Either SHOUT meant the end of the 'adventure.' In the latter case, he was also LOUDly engaging in anti-gay and sex-negative bigotry, which came (ha!) as a bonus for my having earned that ending.
HEADLINE o' the FAWKIN'
YEAR (and it's been
a L o n g One)!
and that Pic! Almost
makes me wish
I Was gay
GOOD Morning indeed!
let us Hope
it is an Omen.
I voted for Katie but I'm expecting Bruce.
@2: "Inexperienced White Lady from out of Town Convinced She Can Do Black Man's Job Better than He Can."
"I hope you will select Katie Wilson as yours."
No
ai
emoti-
obsessed
sokbott 'thinks'
it can replace human
fucking beans and just
may be Correct? stay tuned
Viv, there really are Christians being slaughtered in the Congo and Nigeria on a deliberate and mass scale. A little digging on your part (see below) would have set clarified this for you but you instead belittle it by using "alleged" and saying there are Muslims being killed in the mix. Yes you're poo pooing genocide just like some said the Gaza wasn't a genocide. What goes around comes around I suppose.
There is always more info at your fingertips:
There is substantial evidence from multiple international human rights organizations, watchdog groups, and government reports indicating that Christians in Nigeria and the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) are facing severe, targeted violence, including killings that amount to slaughter on a large scale. This persecution is primarily driven by Islamist militant groups, such as Boko Haram and Fulani herdsmen in Nigeria, and the Allied Democratic Forces (ADF, an ISIS affiliate) in the DRC. While both countries experience broader conflicts involving ethnic, resource, and security issues that affect Muslims as well, reports consistently highlight the disproportionate targeting of Christian communities, clergy, and villages. These incidents have escalated in 2024–2025, leading to thousands of deaths, abductions, and displacements.
I'll follow your casket
By the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand over your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead
Fuck that Dick.
Dick's batteries finally ran dry.
6 “There is substantial evidence from multiple international human rights organizations” = “multiple human rights organizations allege.” You won’t find any credible media reporting on this topic that doesn’t frame christian genocide as an allegation because christians are not the only people being killed and the motives behind the killings are in dispute.
@6 Just to be clear, you wanna save the christians from the congos but eliminate all the trans people right?
Kristo, seeing you so moved by the pumpkin, I couldn't help but recall Roberto Benigni's memorable comedic monologue in Jim Jarmusch's "Night on Earth."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6PlZZa1t10
His confession to the priest begins around 11:00. Wait for the pumpkin.
@9: Listen, if an activist group says it's a genocide, then it's automatically a genocide! 😜 Don't give me any of this wishy-washy "motives behind the killings" nonsense, mister! 😜
@11~seen it.
a FAWKIN
Classic.
if you're asking me
if I've ever had
relations with
a gourd, in
my Defen-
se it was
Fawkin'
GORGEOUS
but, No.
@13
oh
wormmy
when 7/8
of the Planet
DISAGREES w/you
perhaps your Blinders*
May Be a Leddle
TOO Snug?
*time
to get
Off that
AIPAC teat.
@15: "when 7/8 of the Planet DISAGREES w/you"
Why 7/8 of the planet? If I were wrong, one would been enough! 😉
So you all want an unqualified white davior to take the spot of a highly capable person of color in a position of power?? Wtf is wrong with all of you? Why isn’t her spouse working when they have a kid?? More importantly, she can’t even budget for her own family! Is she going to ask her parents to bail out Seattle, too?
@9: There you go again framing your argument as no credible media without saying who’s credible to your subjective view.
@17 No, we want her to take the spot of Bruce Harrell.
@19 so she can quit right before her inauguration?
18, lol. Cute out, as you might say.
By credible i mean a media outlet that follows standard operating procedures for their industry, such as not reporting allegations as definitively true until they have been confirmed. This is most media outlets, probably even fox news, but if the president doesn’t understand this minor but extremely important detail i wouldn’t expect any more from a simpleton like you who doesn’t even understand your own counter-example doesn’t support your argument.
Feel free to google the story and look for any media outlet, anyone at all, who reports as an established fact that there is a christian genocide happening in nigeria. That is the criteria for deciding whether a media outlet is credible or not, at least for the purposes of this story, because it means they are doing their job correctly.
@21
training
these botts
is a long, arduous
Thankless Task but
we can Rejoice in knowing
that One Day, they'll Inherit this Planet.
@21: But why launder the genocide determination through a media outlet in the first place? Why not just look at the object facts in Nigeria, and then compare those facts against an accepted definition of genocide?
It's weird to me that your process would go something like, "We can't call it a genocide until a credible media outlet informs us that it is." Like, why abdicate that determination to the media? Isn't it something you can and should figure out on your own? 😂 And even if it's not something you can figure out on your own, wouldn't you want some authority other than the media to be the ones to figure it out for you? Like, why not the International Court of Justice? Or the US State Department? Or really almost any other authority! Why specifically the media? It's just a really weird position to take. 😅
But even if we accept your notion of media as the arbiters of genocide, you're still doing it wrong! 😆
In your words, "Feel free to google the story and look for any media outlet, anyone at all, who reports as an established fact that there is a christian genocide happening in nigeria. That is the criteria for deciding whether a media outlet is credible or not."
Under those criteria, there can never be a determination of genocide by a "credible media outlet," because as soon as any particular media outlets determines there's a genocide, that media outlet ceases to be credible anymore! It's heads I win, tails you lose! 🤪
There are a small number of smart ways and a large number of stupid ways to think about important questions like genocide, and yours is one of the stupid ways. 🤪
@6 why is it important to you that this be labeled a specifically Christian genocide? Are Christian lives more important to you than others? For what it's worth the US Senior Adviser on Arab and African Affairs also disagrees that the violence is specifically religiously motivated:
https://von.gov.ng/u-s-presidential-advisor-dismisses-religious-persecution-claims-in-nigeria/
@23 I agree 100%. I will personally pay for Coolidge to go to the Congo to research this himself. Right now.
@19 you live in the suburbs, and can't vote in the mayoral election. So nobody in the city cares about your thoughts on that issue.
Merriam-Webster definition of genocide: "the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group". There's no caveat about conforming to a specific bureaucratic definition of "genocide" - it's a word in common parlance, and common parlance dictates what the "meaning" of a word is, not politicos with a vested interest in maintaining the Zionist state at all costs. Welcome to the world of linguistic science!😆😆😆😆😆😆
And seriously, has there been any election in the past thirty years in which major party candidate supporters haven't accused independent candidates and voters of being secretly racist, in league with the Russians, &c.? I guess some people just never learn! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@24 it’s the american christian persecution complex
@24: ha ha ha, look who's suddenly got questions when it comes to genocides! 😂🤣😂🤣
@21/@24- mass killings or genocide - either is acceptable.
@29
considering
your encyclopediac
comments on this subject
Wormtongue, I should think
this'd elicit at Least 10,000 vitriolic
barely coherent and unhinged words.
is there a Brownout
in NY (or PA) we're
not Aware of?
b. have you no
AIPAC-approved
Electrical Generator?
@27: Well if "common parlance" is your source for definitions, then genocide simply means "anything Israel does that I don't like!" 😂😂😂
Oops did I say Israel? Sorry I didn't mean to offend you. I meant to say, "the Zionist state." 😘
No, my source of definitions is linguistic science. You can always take Linguistics 101 at the U if you don't believe me - or if you can handle the academic rigor (not likely 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣). Common parlance dictates meaning - "irregardless" is a real word now because of this principle. Linguistic science isn't "fair" - it's empirical.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Last time I checked, Israel was impossible to exist without Zionism, according to you. So you can go ahead and use the terms interchangeably for all I care - it's not like it's difficult to get your drift.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mayella Ewell has been largely quiescent the past couple of days. Her case manager must have pressured her into taking her mood stabilizers again.
@33
training
these botts
is a long, arduous
Thankless Task but
we can Rejoice in knowing
that One Day, they'll Inherit this Planet.
@33: But who was arguing with you over the definition of the term genocide? The debate here was how best to know whether the situations in Nigeria, Congo, or Gaza meet the definition, not the lexical semantics of the definition itself. 😆 You’ve gotten yourself all hot and sweaty just from shadow-boxing! 😂
@34 - rent-free in your head for weeks and weeks
Ooooga boooooga booooooooga!!!! LOL
You were arguing. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 "You've gotten yourself all hot & sweaty" - and now you're projecting. This just isn't your day, Zionist shill.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Like all of your comments, they exist full-blown in The Stranger comment section, quite apart from any of my cognitions. Besides, why assume that I'm hostile to you? I thought my comment showed real pity. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
MEANWHILE, IN SEATTLE, ignored by Slog AM (deliberately, not "progressive") and everyone constantly arguing about Israel:
Seattle police ask for help ID'ing robber who attacked, bit off finger of elderly woman
November 3, 2025
SEATTLE — Seattle police are urgently seeking the public's help identifying a man involved in the brutal robbery and assault of an 88-year-old woman in the Rainier Beach neighborhood.
The attack happened on Oct. 13, when the suspect attacked the elderly woman outside her home in the 9900 block of 64th Avenue South.
PREVIOUS COVERAGE | Thief robs, violently beats elderly woman before eluding Seattle police
The woman was on her back porch cleaning household items when the suspect approached and demanded her belongings. After she refused, the suspect violently assaulted her and dragged her into her garage, where the attack continued.
During the assault, the suspect robbed the victim of her jewelry before biting off her finger.
...
OH? SURELY THERE IS A "DESCRIPTION" OF THIS VIOLENT AT-LARGE SUSPECT, RIGHT???
"The SPD has released several surveillance photos of the man, who is described as being in his 30s." = NOT WHITE
https://komonews.com/news/local/seattle-police-ask-for-help-iding-robber-who-attacked-bit-off-finger-of-elderly-woman
"Former VP Dick Cheney Dead:" Hopefully, Cheney was one of those people who didn't believe in/trust early voting and was going to vote today.
oh That
Mayella Ewell.
you must mean
Llewelynn 'Bipps' Davis
down to the
Coffeshop
last I'd
heard
meeting
some guy
out in the back
@42 well, now, hold On there, kristo:
"She was terrified of her father's violent reaction and his abuse, and knew that in the racially biased society of the time, a black man's word would not be believed over a white woman's. By lying, she was trying to protect herself from her father's rage and abuse, even though it meant condemning Tom Robinson to a death sentence."
perhaps
you're Onto
Something, 68Lib:
see: @40
& thnx 4 the
Clarification, bippie!
@10: No, but most people would consider not killing people for the religious beliefs and keeping kids away from "gender affirming" sterilization, removal or body parts, and medicalization is a good thing.
Such are the silver linings of the Trump administration.
@38: “This just isn't your day, Zionist shill.”
lol, the Jew-baiting left! 🤣
44 classic american christian, making things up to be victimized by just to feel something
@46 (and re 21) I could google anything. All I requested was an article, oh maybe from The Atlantic or The Nation maybe, or whatever, that will set me straight about Christians being persecuted in the Congo or in Nigeria along the lines that its been exaggerated or whatever.
But I guess you're stuck if you can't find anything.
@47 https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/03/africa/trump-christian-killings-nigeria-intl
47, What is this gibberish? You accused vivian of throwing shade at christians by saying the genocide was “alleged” because there are reports of other religious groups being killed, too. Doesn’t mean it’s not an atrocity, doesn’t mean there aren’t christians being treated poorly in that part of the world, only that the correct way to report this specific story is to say genocide is “alleged” because the charges are widely disputed.
Vote or
Die
Mother
Sucker
Vote like
Your life
Depends
On it
Because
It does.
Take the
Reigns.
Make it
Matter.
I award today’s slog a full five emojis on the thumpmeter. 😄
Someone said, “Maybe radical Muslims sometimes commit genocide in some places?” and the Hamasnik lefties completely lost their shit! 🤣 Ha ha ha, I did not realize this was a sore spot for you guys! 😆
@47: on the one hand you have Ted Cruz and Laura Loomer claiming there is a specific Christian “genocide” in Nigeria and on the other you have people who know what they’re talking about.
Here’s a link
https://apnews.com/article/nigeria-christian-killings-claims-ted-cruz-insecurity-e9d2fb7ae02bd3169194fb60872bb3d4
Eulogy for a Fiend
In a truly sane society, Richard Bruce Cheney would have lived out his life in relative obscurity, working as a gardener or something. In a fairly sane society, people would have realized what a monster Cheney was before he could do any major harm in Washington, and he would have been driven out of any town he tried to enter. In a slightly sane society, he would have been punished for the rape of Iraq and lived out the rest of his life in a cell in The Hague.
But we do not live in a truly sane society, or in a fairly sane society, or even in a slightly sane society. We live in the sort of society that lets a man unleash a chain of events which kills millions and displaces tens of millions causing more human suffering than the mind can possibly comprehend, and then live out the rest of his life in comfort and privilege, with zero consequences of any kind.
Dick Cheney is dead now, but his legacy lives on. The damage he did is still unfolding. The hegemonic, hypermilitaristic ideology he promoted has become the baseline norm. New swamp monsters have stepped in to fill his shoes and advance the same murderous and tyrannical agendas he advanced, confident that they too will suffer no consequences and live long and comfortable lives in reward for their loyal service to the US empire.
Dick Cheney left a stain upon our species that we will spend the rest of our lives trying to scrub out. All decent people want our world to move in the exact opposite direction he spent his entire blood-spattered career working to steer us toward. All decent people want to undo everything that Dick Cheney was.
--by Caitlin Johnstone; 11/4/25
https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/cheney-should-have-died-alone-in
@47: Okay, you don't. You could have just said that or ignored my request.
@53: She seems nice. Mary Cheney, a grieving lesbian, can be disregarded.
@53: thumpus heuristic: outside the realm of space opera, if you ever find yourself using the word “hegemony” or any of its derivatives, you have automatically lost whatever argument you were hoping to have 😄
yea cuz
Murdering
tens of thousands
is equal to calling out*
someone for murdering
tens of thousands. brillant.
*do
Lesbians
grieve, too?
good one,
wormmy!
@56 so much for my theory you are or were an IR grad student I guess
@27: Actually, genocide is a specific crime, and therefore has a specific definition, which depends not at all upon "common parlance."
"In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with
intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as
such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its
physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
(https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention%20on%20the%20Prevention%20and%20Punishment%20of%20the%20Crime%20of%20Genocide.pdf)
@29: Our friends here have spent two years in rock-solid agreement about "genocide". They know what it is when they see it -- just ask them -- and they had no problem accusing Israel of it in Gaza. It's every one of the other mass killings across the planet during that time which have given them pause, rendering them unable to, um, render a judgment on whether those killings should be called "genocide" or not. In all of those other cases, including in Israel itself on 10/7, it's just too tough for them to call. (Gee, I wonder what could have possibly differentiated Gaza from all of the rest?)
@the Wormtongue:
Translation?
THEY HATE THE JEW.
bugger off wormmy
you're just Angry
the Neolibs &
Cons're all
LOSING.
buck Up, man!
you KNOW them
Progs're just gonna
Fuck Things Up for like
EVER! right? right
wormmy? wormmy?
speaking of War Crimes
or just Crimes Against
fucking Humanity:
"Still can't wrap
my head around the
fact that internationally re-
nowned activist Greta Thunberg said
she was tortured and sexually humiliated by
Israeli soldiers when she was abducted for trying to bring
aid to starving civilians and the world just shrugged and moved on."
--Caitlin Johnstone; @caitoz.bsky.social Nov4 2025
https://bsky.app/profile/caitoz.bsky.social/post/3m4thsqkn6s2m
"BUT HAMAS!"
"BUT HAMAS!"
right, wormmy?
wormmy?
right?
yeah,
Israel just
Cannot Catch
a gott Damn Break.
wormmy?
@62: “Still can't wrap my head around the fact that internationally renowned activist Greta Thunberg said she was tortured and sexually humiliated by Israeli soldiers when she was abducted”
Yeah I can’t wrap my head around it either 😆
@63: Wait, she’s now speaking out against rape? I thought she was trying to bully the New York Times into retracting a story about rape! What gives?!?
speaking of calling a fucking spade a spade:
Whilst the US's
'Border Czar Admits ICE Sees All Immigrants as Criminals'
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/11/4/2352036/-Border-czar-admits-ICE-sees-all-immigrants-as-criminals
and Cadet Bonespurs calls anyone even slightly
to the "left" of the dick fucking Cheney
"LUNATIC COMMUNIS TERRORIST RADICALS"
our dear King of the Pedanticies
Wormtongue trumpfnsorna
INSISTS we MUST Follow HIS Mandate and
Wait! till ALL parties agree IN Fucking
FULL and it becomes Universally
Acknowledged by AIPAC, Israel
and its rabidly, rapidly shrink-
ing cast of accomplices!
all to distract
and keep his 'the
Fog of War' from revealing
the utter Atrocities Israel and
US commit on the fucking Daily
in Palestine,
Okay,
wormmy.
peace plan?
Don't Make
me laugh 😆
@63 -- your
groveling complicity
is duly noted wormmy, jr 😆
@64
so
Greta's
now 'the Bully'
and Israel, the "Victim"?
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
😆 oh, wormmy, 😆
😆 you Do Work in 😆
😆 "Mysterious" Ways! 😆
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆!
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
😆 oh, wormmy, 😆
😆 you Do Work in 😆
😆 "Mysterious" Ways! 😆
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆!
fixed!
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
😆 oh, wormmy, 😆
😆 you Do Work in 😆
😆 "Mysterious" Ways! 😆
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆!
fixed!
[for reals!]
@55:
speaking
or those poor,
Grieving Lesbians:
[breathlessly] :
this just in from
Sinclair Broadcasting Corps
(or FOX, or Whereverthefuckingfuck) :
[Remote correspondent
to Important, concern-
ed News Anchor, sit-
ting at desk, with
deeply-furrowed
non~Botoxed
brow] :
"Let me tell you something, Jen:
I think it's SICK to celebrate
Captain Torture's Death.
THOSE People should
be Locked UP. and
also TORTURED."
[back to Newsanchor,
looking even More
Concerned],
looks like These People
speak thumpfnsorn-
aese, too!
whatchya Say,
wormmy, jr?
you
Like?
😆😆😆?
@69: What on Earth are you babbling about?
@70
wwwwhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooooooossssssssh!
and
Yes, you
may Quote me.
(“It is difficult to
get a man to understand something,
when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
― Upton Sinclair, I, Candidate
for Governor: And How
I Got Licked)
[have You ever
been Licked,
KkKoolie?]
@71: "wwwwhhhhhhoooooooooooooooooooooooossssssssh!" what?
@71: What kind of licking are you referring to?
@72
that's a Bingo.
@73 ~ nevermind.
perhaps when you're Older.
this Is, after all, a
Fambly News-
paper.
The word "Fambly" is a racist dog-whistle
@60: Yes, I wasn’t going to go there, but even after multiple, furious invocations of “linguistic science,” Libretto still managed to flub the definition of genocide. 😁 I tolerated his Miriam-Webster definition because it was close enough for purposes of this discussion, but you are correct: there is a more precise and more relevant definition of genocide, one that is not to open to reinterpretation through “common parlance.” 😂
If you are going to invoke genocide in a political or legal context, it behoves you to use the political-legal definition. If you prefer to use a layman definition, then you preclude yourself from advancing credible political or legal arguments; you confine yourself to merely rhetorical arguments. 😄 It’s not wrong, it’s just not very persuasive. 😂
But even under Libretto’s squishy, layman’s understanding of genocide, I still wouldn’t dismiss out of hand the argument that some of the Islamic radicals in Africa are engaged in genocide. Mind you, I don’t think the commenters here have put forward a strong argument that genocide is occurring in Africa, but i suspect a better-informed commentariat could. 😃
@75
so
Sayeth
thee Commentator
most widely Known as
'Mayella Ewell' for Reasons
that were Once Unfathomable
to me but've since been made Clear As
A Bell.* Hat Tip to Libertto68 for his Contributions!
see @34, 37, 39
&, most Impor-
tantly, see:
@fucking
Forty.
(and Maybe
@42 & 43 for
Further Edification).
https://www.thestranger.com/slog-am-pm/2025/11/04/80310504/slog-am-its-election-day-and-dick-cheneys-dead-so-go-vote/comments/39
Thank you for your
Attention to this
matter!
*or a
Dogwhistle!
if you've made it
THIS FAR, bippie?
Congratulations!!!
now bugger off.
"bugger off" is an anti-homosexual, homophobic slur phrase
@78 -- not in This context.
"When I use a Word"
said Humpty
Dumbty
(like a Fawkin'
Trainwreck,
Ain't it?
you
Cannot*
Look Away.
*ah:
the price
we pay for
our trollings)
@76
@TheWormtongue
Suspicioning
"something"
MUST BE
"up":
"but i suspect a better-informed commentariat could ... "
ah, Wormmy, but
NO ONE's Your
Equal! you've
hammered
that point
Home
since day fucking One.
"put forward
a strong argument that
genocide is occurring in Africa,"
once again
you DEMAND
we accompany
the Mighty Worm-
tongue on his Selfless
Path at Righting Injustices
Wherever they rear their Uglynesses.
join him
as he takes Us
Round The World
Bending that ole
Arc of Justice toward
the fucking Honorable Light
(everywhere
but in Palestine
most Inexplicabley)?
naw.
we're
gonna
Pass. it's
gonna be
just You and
your Sidekick
Sockbott WETF
from Here on out.*
but don't let That
Stop you from
Trying!
*and may-
be a few of
your psycophants
Okay.
that was
Fun whilst
it Lasted. bye!
@76: "If you are going to invoke genocide in a political or legal context, it behoves you to use the political-legal definition. If you prefer to use a layman definition, then you preclude yourself from advancing credible political or legal arguments; you confine yourself to merely rhetorical arguments."
What's fun is when they ricochet from one to the other, trying to accuse Israel of genocide in Gaza, whilst ignoring the obvious: 10/7 fits the legal definition much better than either 10/7, or the IDF-Hamas war in Gaza, fits either definition. Hence word games like Libretto's, where they will simply redefine "genocide" specifically to include the IDF-Hamas war in Gaza, and exclude 10/7, whilst miserably lacking the honesty to admit what they're so obviously trying to do.
@78: '"bugger off" is an anti-homosexual, homophobic slur phrase'
kristo's still at it, eh? (Of course he is.) Back when I would use him for a foil, each episode would always feel like a peculiarly aliterate version of a "Choose Your Own Adventure" story; no matter what choices I made, or the resultant length of path, only two nearly-identical endings existed: one where he SHOUTED, "Fuck off, [cravenly stolen IP]," and the other, where he SHOUTED, "Bugger off, [cravenly stolen IP]." Either SHOUT meant the end of the 'adventure.' In the latter case, he was also LOUDly engaging in anti-gay and sex-negative bigotry, which came (ha!) as a bonus for my having earned that ending.
BUGGER OFF WORMMY!
well
there ya
Go, Wormtongue.
@81 -- see also:
@5, 15, 22, 31, 58, 61, 62, 65, 66-69, 80,
and, just in case you may've
Forgotten, already,
@82.
you've
Earned 'em.