Chief Adrian Diaz and former Major Jenny Durkan, who helped negotiate the 2011 consent decree between SPD and the Feds when she was a US attorney. Karen Ducey / GETTY

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2

«Seattle city officials and the Department of Justice are expected to ask a federal judge to declare SPD a "transformed organization"»

Everyone in this city knows that is complete horse shit. Absolutely nothing has changed with SPD. Officials are just tired of dealing with this decade-long kabuki. Time to put it to bed and pretend it was money and effort well spent.

3

@1: JFC you're a pill.

4

"Let's pass a state income tax."

Let's first see the fucking audit of both the state and county governments before we freely give them even more money to blow on stupid shit, shall we? My taxes keep going up and shit keeps getting worse... something's fishy.

4

«One person killed six people in 14 minutes in the Nashville school shooting»

Since shooter was female, she does not count as a "militia", right? Only men could be in a militia. So how did she get a gun in the first place?

5

let's not dismiss those French protesters
quite yet. look no further than Isreal
where far far FAR "right" Reich
wing nut bb Nutnyahoo's
attempted Seizure of his
Country he had to put
On Hold (for Now).

Protests Work.
but the Middle's
gotta be Moved &
the Middle (in Isreal) is
just not That Into Fascism.

bb might have better
Luck here. he sure
did give it a Shot
when he came &
chatted up a 're-
publican' Con-
gress Without
informing the
President.

6

@2: And the total lack of curiosity towards why SPD (mis)behaves in the ways it does will also continue. After the “defund” debacle, the Council simply wandered away from asking any questions about the police. Why was the East Precinct abandoned to the CHOP? Why do police routinely attack protesters in downtown, Belltown, and Capitol Hill, whilst politely escorting larger demonstrations in other parts of town? Nobody seems to care, not even the Council Members who claim to care about SPD’s behaviors.

7

Every time a hooker solicits me, I say "Sorry, I know a cop when I see one." That ends that encounter.

8

@1 'fax':
only you'd put
the latest Massacre
Maker on TOP of Any List.

well played.

margarine traitor greene's
jumped on the Bandwagon too
blaming Anything but the WMDs.

bring BACK
the Gott-
damm
Ban.

10

SPD hasn't changed.

And neither has Putin's tool Elon Musk.

11

I would think the activists would be happy about the possible removal of the consent decree. After all that was one of the reasons the SCC couldn't follow through on their commitment to defund the SPD by 50% back in 2020. The pesky judge stepped in and said no

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/federal-judge-to-seattle-city-council-tread-carefully-with-efforts-to-defund-police-or-risk-violating-consent-decree/

The consent decree also ended up overruling the SCC ordinance prohibiting certain crowd control measures. So with the consent decree out of the way the SCC won't have that barrier/excuse anymore for not following through on activist demands.

12

@11: Yes, but there’s currently a race between Council Members and voters as to which group will remove all activist-friendly Council Members first. ;-)

15

It's going to get ugly. MAGAt folks foaming at the mouth. Hard to breathe already. Audrey Hale, no friend to the trans community... Only explanation is that (s)he was so blinded by the rage of being bullied that she could not see that.
.
An explanation for all the Microsoft lay offs would be nice... you know, journalism.

17

or Born that way
or Sympathetic
or Christian*

*not the ANGRY-God type

19

@12 I assume you've been reading along at the ridiculous candidates TS has been promoting to fill the void left by the current ideologues sitting on the dais? So far it seems like most of the candidates running are even worse than the current council which is a very low bar. The filing deadline will be coming up soon so hoping we see some serious candidates join the race in April.

22

"Just curious."

There have been 2,840+ mass shooters over the last 5 years give or take. 3 of them have been trans.

Why is is so suddenly important the the "left" media — whatever that even means — suddenly label the gender identification of shooters.

You did not demand or even note this unknown cabal of left media did not note "Cis" the last 2,837 times some Cis gendered lunatic shot a bunch of people.

So they "buried" that the vast majority of lunatic gun nuts were Cis, didn't they. But you are just drooling with straw man anticipation they will when it's a trans person who had all too easy access to a killing arsenal.

Now that's curious.

Almost like you have agenda to smear Trans people. When in fact trans people are barely participating in this all too American Cis Male pastime of murdering children with guns.

Are you worried they are muscling in on your thing?

23

Again, over the last five years less than .105633803% of mass shootings have been committed by known trans killers.

But 100% were committed with a gun a lunatic should not have been allowed to possess.

The curiosity here is why the discussion has to be anything but the 100% of the far too easy to acquire killing weapons.

But that's SLOG now. A cesspool of shut-in shitbags with the worst possible takes and bottom feeding ax grinding obsessions.

28

@7 - I used to just flash my badge, which was even more fun. But they took it away when I retired. :(

If you haven't seen the Nashville PD bodycam footage of their response to the shooter, it is well worth watching, if only to demonstrate how the police should respond to active shooters. It's a perfect, textbook display of how cops have been trained to respond to active shooters (particularly in schools, but could be anywhere) since not long after Columbine. I've been through the training several times, and I retired in 2011. The Nashville PD footage is like watching a video of that training.

There may be criticism here of shooting her again once she was down, but that is also training. Active shooters are the only instance when we were trained to keep shooting until the suspect was clearly not able to move so much as a muscle anymore. The theory is these whack-jobs will do anything to keep killing, even if able when badly wounded.

Anyway, I'm really, really proud of these guys. Some young officers are just natural leaders in a crisis, and the lead officer in this incident with the AR seems to be just such an officer.

29

@25 The far left, especially Slog, also hates to report when homeless people commit crimes, especially violent crimes. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.

30

@4 (theincrediblek)

Are you not aware that both the state and the county are audited annually? It's required by law in WA, and just about every government institution or agency with a budget in the rest of the country has an annual audit, too.

31

Seems the Nashville shooter was under going treatment for emotional disturbance. Would have been nice to have a red flag law in place to keep the legally purchased guns stored safely away until whatever was going on had been resolved.

32

@25 I kinda don't red your posts past the first eye roll. SO throwing the word "narrative" around does't make anything you say have more importance.

And building these false dichotomies won't make your purported "curiosity" anything more than a fig leaf for a coy little ax you want to grind. You would find a way to grind that ax regardless of how The Stranger or any other so-called "left" outlet reported this or any story. We both know it.

It is your raison d'être.

You never really answered the question. Because you are incapable of that kind of retrospective insight into yourself. But let me answer for you.

We all know the default for a mass shooter is straight and male. So you do not NEED that clarified. The only thing important for you is something, anything, you can use to distract or derail.

Regardless of what little media conspiracy straw man you concoct in your head, the issue is not the gender presentation of the person who pulled the trigger. But rather that the trigger of an all-too-easy to acquire gun was pulled. And is pulled thousands of times per year, often slaughtering children in the process.

You and all the other bottom feeders on this board are desperate to derail any and all attention from that central fact. Because it is the only fact that matters.

And dealing with that fact is the only solution to the problem.

34

It should come as no surprise to me (but it still does) that American companies, who have benefited greatly by the American consumer, will, instead of paying their share of taxes, go to Herculean efforts and expense to move somewhere (Ireland, for instance) to avoid them completely. Those taxes which they try to avoid are what builds the bridges and the highways that lead to their plants and headquarters and provides the roads and tracks necessary to deliver their inventory to market. It helps educate its workforce. It frequently allows the government to buy the products it produces. It's so fucking anti-American for them to stick their tongues out - with thumbs in ears and fingers wiggling - at DC.

My solution to end that treacherous move probably wouldn’t survive the legal system, but here it is: You and your corporation may move anywhere you see fit, but if you leave this country, you lose the American market. You will not be able to sell your goods here. You lose that privilege and advantage.

Didn’t know about the Fisher guy. I, of course, do know about Fisher Investments with its Sunday morning “we aren’t here to fuck anyone; we just want to make your retirement flush” ad campaign – which I should have known was bullshit. All ads are, really. Didn’t know they were based in Washington state either. You know what? They want to move to Texas? Let ‘em go. Plenty of low expectation employees there who think unions are unpatriotic. Go on, now…git! Enjoy the pollution, the stockyards, and the beauty pageants.

I hate a cheat. More so, an ungrateful cheat who never remembers who brung ‘em to the party (or who paid for the dress).

35

As enjoyable as it might be to "own" some conservative investment banker, I'm not really jumping for joy at the prospect of increasing my own tax burden.

36

About the Nashville tragedy - I've read that the satanic shit who did this to school children identified as "trans-gender." I'm waiting now, after a week or so of grief, for the Tennessee legislature to grab this and run with it. Stay tuned. It's depressing when you can count on a government to find a new low.

37

@19: My hopeful speculation says the serious candidates are lining up support and waiting until closer to the deadline to file. The only advantage to early filing is more time to raise funds, but the current candidates won’t raise much money, and will mostly vanish when someone serious files for each seat.

The disadvantage of early filing is more time for opposition research and mud-slingers to apply their talents. Given that the only “lesson” the Stranger seems to have “learned” from the November 2021 elections is they didn’t hate hard enough or often enough on Harrell, Nelson and especially Davison, why should a serious candidate allow the Stranger to start now?

38

@29 wrong. I turn them in all the time. While you radical extremist far right activists say "oh guns are our god" instead.

42

@41 - I wouldn’t cheer on anyone’s death but I’m certainly not going to shed any tears over the fact that the cops ended up killing the shooter. I can’t imagine many would.

43

@37 I can see your point about waiting to postpone the inevitable muck slinging from TS and various activist groups about being a right wing, corporate toady, bootlicker etc etc. I hope you're correct that some serious candidates are going to jump in though. We'll see in the next 6-8 weeks.

44

@43.

Remember we don't want too many good candidates, just one per district.

Think back to the District 6 Primary in 2019. A ton of candidates, many very serious. Unfortunately there were so many candidates that Strauss and Willis came in first and second based on name recognition alone. Leaving Sergio Garcia in third place and out of the General.

We have Tanya Woo in District two and Pete Hanning in both worthy candidates against two terrible incumbents.

45

@41 - Meh, cuffing suspects who were clearly incapacitated or no longer with us wasn't something I ever saw done with Dallas PD. If suspect was wounded/injured and still ambulatory, then sure. Never saw or even heard of badly wounded/injured or apparently deceased suspect suddenly attack armed officers covering them once they themselves had been disarmed. I'm not sure where that cuffing habit started, but it is almost always unnecessary with clearly incapacitated suspects. Plus, it pisses off family and witnesses...almost always for no real reason.

The intel the teacher provided is somewhat useful, as it gives you a clue about where best to make entry. But you still have to do a quick-clear of every open room you pass, as the suspect can move up or downstairs and throughout the school in a matter of just seconds. There could also be more than one shooter; remember Columbine. But you would still keep the teacher's intel back of mind.

Once shots are heard, move fast straight to them. You just have to leave unsecured areas behind you then. If 3 or more officers in group, one will keep watch to rear. Suspect could always pop up there from intersecting corridors, or one could emerge to rear while you're engaging other one...if there are 2 suspects. Once suspect is down, you still gotta clear rest of building, which is what I'm sure they did in Nashville.

These officers did this so perfectly, I honestly felt as if I was watching video of the training exercises we do. We use actual schools (after kids are gone) with simunitions for officers and suspects. Simunitions travel about 600 fps and make you take the training seriously. I had one tear a chunk out of my calf and leave a little, bloody hole! We wear heavy face masks to prevent injury there.

This training started a year or two after Columbine, and we got refreshers every couple of years. Most all departments have had it by now. The main issue in Uvalde...in my own opinion...is that you had a bunch of school district officers, who are usually very "Type B" and indecisive. They had the training, but they were too unsure of themselves to use it. Fear played a part, too. Most young cops in cities are super eager, aggressive and very "Type A" and not afraid of too much. I remember watching Uvalde and thinking, "Man, this would never happen in Dallas!" ...or Nashville.

You want that bold aggressiveness in these sort of situations. The problem the police face nowadays is they have that mentality too often, including in cases where the opposite is needed. Fix that and add greater accountability for misconduct, and you solve a LOT of problems facing LE today.

46

JESUS, like I really need any further well justified reasons not to ever open a Twitter account.

@28 and @45 Morty: Thank you for your insight on law enforcement. When will senseless tragedies, like multiple death shootings, in schools and public places (shopping malls, concert venues, etc.) ever end?

@34 and @36 Bauhaus I: +2 Agreed and seconded. Well said.

49

@47 - Yeah, I was around. I remember the Miami shoot-out in only a broad sense. Still, we never adopted that practice. Policy based on a one-in-million instance is often not the best policy. If the suspect is clearly incapacitated AND disarmed (the Miami shooter apparently wasn't), there really is no need to cuff. We were trained to disarm as fast as possible...as done here.

50

"You want that bold aggressiveness in these sort of situations. The problem the police face nowadays is they have that mentality too often, including in cases where the opposite is needed.

Fix that and add greater accountability for misconduct, and you solve a LOT of problems facing LE today."
--@Morty @Bingo

in Spite of what
the so-called
'Centrists'
may A-
scribe
to Us

that'd Suit me
& likely Most
of the Left

51

@ Anthropromise Me -- I have no idea (and don't really care) if it's politically correct or not re: '(s)he'; it just makes sense. Every trans person has a story, and that seems to sum up the story succinctly, honoring both identity identification and the inescapability of biological origins. The reverse I suppose would be 's(he)'.

Sweating the different labels has always seemed counter to the intention of accepting people for who they are in a non-judgemental way.

Like your example -
if you put "(S)he" would you be labeled as anti-trans bigot
I would hope not...but knee jerk judgements like that are all too common these days by the very same people who are ultimately advocating for non-judgemental behavior...

52

one seemingly intractable Po-po prob's
gotta be good cops Not ratting out bad cops

thank God for (turned-on) Cameras.

[not to mention the proliferation
of far-right militias within
the ranks].

we Live in In-
teresting
Times.

53

@52 - At least where I worked, good cops "ratted out" bad cops far often than people think. Almost 1/2 of our IAD investigations were generated from internal sources...mostly supervisors, but still. The problem...and this is why I harp on accountability...was that our administration consistently refused to do much about such complaints.

I cannot tell you how many times I and my Lieutenant/Deputy Chief recommended termination on someone, someone who we knew very well, only to have the Chief of Police (who doesn't know them at all) reject our recommendation and give the officer a few days off (Suspension) instead! It was maddening, and it was something mid-level supervisors complained about often. Now, I don't know if that was unique to Dallas or happens much elsewhere, but I know that some things I've read over the years convinces me it does indeed happen in at least some other cities.

I don't know if Seattle is one of those cities or not.

54

"Sweating the different labels has always seemed counter to the intention of accepting people for who they are in a non-judgemental way."

When visual cues are obvious as to how they present themselves as male or female, sure. But a lot of the time with the androgynous, non-binary, gender-f#ck look, it's a crap-shoot as to how they want to be gendered - and boy do they love their war stores over how they were misgendered.

55

@50:

“in Spite of what
the so-called
'Centrists'
may A-
scribe
to Us

“that'd Suit me
& likely Most
of the Left”

Behold the damage “defund” has done to police reform. The Stranger has contributed mightily to this damage, continuing with pushing “defund” long after Seattle’s voters rejected it. Even when a majority of citizens in unincorporated areas of King County rejected police alternatives because they were concerned it would lead to defunding, the Stranger intentionally misrepresented the survey results to say the opposite! (https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2022/04/28/71999670/rigorous-survey-finds-king-county-wants-police-alternatives/comments)

You made the very first comment in that thread. You blissfully swallowed the Stranger’s propaganda whole, snottily agreed that “defund” should be accomplished by COVID, and stated the Stranger was not only correct, but obviously so. You left it to the rest of us to read the Stranger’s coverage skeptically, compare it to the actual survey results, and show how the Stranger was flat-out lying. To put it very, very charitably, you were absolutely of no help at all in this dialog.

Want to help in police reform? Don’t be such a dupe and mouthpiece for the Stranger’s witless anti-reform efforts.

56

"To put it very,
very charitably, you
were absolutely of no help at all in this dialog."

speaking of charity: 'Help'?
tiresome tedious tentsy
speaks of "help" as if
he's here solely to
Serve the Ciizenry

ok
thanks for the
Lecture but please
let's consider the Source

"You’re a cruel person … [@4]

And I like that. ;-) "

from tensorna on March 13, 2023 at 10:44 AM

you've Finally engineered
your tedious Rebuttal
to your insidious
Self-Own?

excellent.
why don't
let's Hear it:

57

my comment above
still stands:

"You want that bold aggressiveness in these sort of situations. The problem the police face nowadays is they have that mentality too often, including in cases where the opposite is needed.

Fix that and add greater accountability for misconduct, and you solve a LOT of problems facing LE today."
--@Morty @Bingo

for Myself and perhaps
many if not Most of the
Left, Morty's brilliant pre-
scription'll do quite Nicely

previous comments
notwithstanding.

58

now let's add to the above
Morty's second brilliant
comment (of Many):

"I cannot tell you how many times I and my Lieutenant/Deputy Chief recommended termination on someone, someone who we knew very well, only to have the Chief of Police (who doesn't know them at all) reject our recommendation and give the officer a few days off (Suspension) instead! It was maddening, and it was something mid-level supervisors complained about often."

Fix THIS
and watch
Community
Support Skyrocket.

Thank you Morty.

59

Re: consent decree

I haven't forgotten how the consent decree interfered with the council's ability to stop police from attacking people. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-police-oversight-agencies-reject-total-ban-on-crowd-control-weapons-passed-by-city-council/

Re: Gender identity of shooter

I think it is a mistake to completely write off a potential link. While there are many reasons that someone could go to the dark place of shooting, complete ostracization by society is one of them. It is unfortunately a normal part of life that people compete for status, a domineering concept that gives them power over others, and one way to obtain status is to otherize people who could potentially compete with you. This otherization has a material impact on the victim's ability to empathize with the people around them. This is not sufficient to cause violence, but it does push in that direction. When it persistently happens across society, violence becomes inevitable even if the chance that any individual instance results in violence is low.

Any society based on domination makes violence inevitable.

There is no equivalence between a trans person being unable to cope with the pain of their treatment and a white nationalist raging about society's movement towards a more just future. But there are parallels in the way that they lash out. If the supremacist can come to understand how harmful their actions are, that we truly are one people, then working with an organization like Life After Hate https://www.lifeafterhate.org/about-us/ would be a far more just outcome than throwing them in a cage for the rest of their life.

60

@56: You’re welcome, but I don’t see anything in there which might help prevent you from again being a dupe and mouthpiece for anti-police-reform propaganda.

In fact, your hand-waving refusal to recognize the folly of your previous comment implies you’ll continue to be a dupe and mouthpiece for contra-reform propaganda:

@57: “previous comments
notwithstanding.”

61

"You made the very first comment in that thread. You blissfully swallowed the Stranger’s propaganda whole, snottily agreed that “defund” should be accomplished by COVID, and stated the Stranger was not only correct, but obviously so."

wowzer. you Do
have a way with
words.

here's what you call tS's propaganda
quoted by me. in fact here's
the whole comment:

"... what they want is clear: More than half than half of the written comments from people surveyed expressed a desire to have an unarmed behavioral health professional available to respond to emergencies."

back to me:

" no need to Defund the Po-po
let 'em man up to the Covid
they seem so Unafraid of
and let Attrition take its
manifest Destiny/toll

And: "... have an
unarmed behavioral
health professional avail-
able to respond to emergencies."

how Hard
can it Be?

kristofarian on April 28, 2022 at 3:30 PM "

"no need to Defund the Po-po
let 'em man up to the Covid
they seem so Unafraid of
and let Attrition take its
manifest Destiny/toll"

leading cause of Po-po Deaths?
their UTTER Refusal to Mask Up & (maybe)
NOT VAX. and then go Deal with John Q Public
as if Fucking COVID didn't Fucking Exist. THEY made

the Fucking Call.
I was crediting them
where I saw it Due. but
I gotta Admit, You DO have
a Way of Twisting Words. Fuck Off.

62

@Morty you -- no WE - need you to have your
own teevee show or Column speaking Truths
that probably 80% of the Citizenry Agree
With and would likely be Happy to
share a brewski with.

have you considered a Run for '24?
does Idaho need a Law & Order
Democratic Socialist Governor?

(you could always
call yourself a
Republican).

63

or tentsy
maybe you just
don't get Irony. my
deepesst Apologies.

64

oops. I made 2 mistakes @61
which do not change the content
but hopefully Do correct and clairfy:

"... what they want is clear: More than half* of the written comments from people surveyed expressed a desire to have an unarmed behavioral health professional available to respond to emergencies."

*tS's quote, corrected
and

" [back to me:] "

which I added
corrected to
reflect that.

apologies!

65

@61: The point was the Stranger claiming a majority wanted police alternatives, when a majority did NOT want police alternatives, BECAUSE they feared police alternatives would mean defunding of the police. (They wanted BOTH more police AND police alternatives, in that order, but the Stranger falsely presented it as an either/or.) That shows just some of the damage “defund” has done to the cause of police reform. (If you’d read all of the comments, not just your own, you might’ve seen that.)

Thanks again for quoting your cruel attempt at humor about police attrition via COVID. It shows nicely that you just didn’t get how “defund” was itself a huge problem, rather than part of any solution.

Again, the best thing you could do for police-reform dialog is simply not get duped into repeating the Stranger’s obvious propaganda. You’re welcome.

66

more drama
"You made the very first comment in that thread."
agreed.

"You blissfully swallowed [projection]
the Stranger’s propaganda whole … "

please.
see: Above

"… snottily [projection again] agreed that
“defund” should be accomplished by COVID… "

nonsense. I concluded the Po-po
was gonna thin their ranks
solo & pro bono
see: Above

"… and stated the Stranger was
not only correct, but obviously so."

all in that same comment?
you're living on Fantasy
Island tentsy. see:
Above

your credibility's

run its course.
ta ta.

67

@59: "While there are many reasons that someone could go to the dark place of shooting, complete ostracization by society is one of them. "

The shooter wasn't "ostracized" by society. She was a functioning human being making a living on a daily basis until she made some very very bad choices. Rather, she was obsessed with her own victimhood. She bought multiple assault rifles. The equivalence between Audrey and a neo-Nazi shooter is their unquenchable thirst to ruminate in their victimhood. It gives them both a sense of power as they both avoid confronting their sociopathic and narcissistic personality disorders that are the source of their problems.

68

@66: Credibility? You can’t even quote yourself properly. Here’s your cruel attempt at deriving humor from the prospect of other human beings dying:

“no need to Defund the Po-po
let 'em man up to the Covid
they seem so Unafraid of
and let Attrition take its
manifest Destiny/toll”

And, back to a larger point, you still haven’t admitted how badly the Stranger punked you with obvious propaganda. Read that comment thread in full.

69

"leading cause of Po-po Deaths?
their UTTER Refusal to Mask Up & (maybe)
NOT VAX. and then go Deal with John Q Public
as if Fucking COVID didn't Fucking Exist. THEY made

the Fucking Call."

when peeps are Paid
to Protect and Serve
and they do Neither
in an EPIDEMIC then
they gotta Expect a
little Blowback.

also

when the Cruelty
is the Point:

"You’re a cruel person … [@4]

And I like that. ;-) "

from tensorna on March 13, 2023 at 10:44 AM

https://www.thestranger.com/slog-am/2023/03/13/78899400/slog-am-us-bails-out-tech-bros-everything-everywhere-all-at-once-sweeps-oscars-250-bunnies-need-a-home/comments/60

you're a cruel person and
your efforts to whitewash
that shows that maybe it
doesn't quite go all the
way to the core.

prove it.

but that paragraph
doesn't say what
you Want it to
say. it Says
what it
says.

good luck tentsy.
now have nice day.

70

Po-po get no Pass
they don't get Immunity
from criticism -- not when
they subject themselves to a
Fucking PANDEMIC*-- & then have
the GALL To go out and do What? to
Infect and Serve? pointing that out is
Not a Sin in spite of your (insert cutting
adjective here) ravid bleatings (howz that?)
to the contrary.

moving on
speaking of
Credibility?

"You can’t even quote yourself properly."

but I can Fix it.
which I Did.

but that is so You
tentsy in a
nutshell.

71

@69: If you’re going to keep copying and pasting that fragment of a quote from me, you might want consider the included “emoji,” (or, if you still use dial-up to reach your newfangled internet thingy, “emoticon”) and how it might modify that quote you seem to believe is just so gosh-darned eternally damning.

(But, there’s really no point in trying to explain the concepts within humor to one chortling gleefully at the thought of humans dying from COVID, now is there?)

Are you ever going to figure out just how badly the Stranger punked you by twisting those survey results? Because you seem to be making precious little headway there. You might want to read that entire comment thread again.

72

and speaking of furthering the
Convo re Po-po Reform or whateverthefuck
what about what Morty said? the Challenges of
shedding Bad Apples & the vast Rewards to the Cit-
izenry for Doing So And TO THEIR PELATIONSHIP TO
the Community? or does that takes place in a Vacuum?

in your wet dream
of a Blame Game
you went and ex-
ibited EXACTLY
what you De-
nounced me
for above.

oh and I LOVED
your little Projecrion:

(But, there’s really no point in trying to explain the concepts within humor to one chortling gleefully at the thought of humans dying from COVID, now is there?)

emoticon this

"You’re a cruel person … [@4]

And I like that. ;-) "

from tensorna on March 13, 2023 at 10:44 AM

https://www.thestranger.com/slog-am/2023/03/13/78899400/slog-am-us-bails-out-tech-bros-everything-everywhere-all-at-once-sweeps-oscars-250-bunnies-need-a-home/comments/60

73

oh and for the Record?
seeing people Die of
COVID or car wrecks
or whateverthefuck
doesn't Turn ME on.

you're Projecting
yet again tentsy.

74

@67 raindrop Accepting the world as you find it and using the tools available to manage your emotional state is good practical advice for coping with a merciless world full of self-centered intelligent actors. If everybody followed this advice effectively, the world would know significantly less violence.

But it is not enough. That advice only allows us to leave the world as we found it. If our ancestors left the world as they found it, then today I might be owned as another's legal property. I might have been burned at the stake as a witch. I might have died as a prepubescent child in some industrial accident repairing a machine that adults are to big to fit inside of. None of these things happened in my life, in part because our ancestors were not content to leave the world as they found it. The only way that I can repay that debt is to continue the work.

Critiques of power are not an excuse for anything. But no matter how good the practical advice is, no matter how faithfully everybody tries to follow it, there are too many people creating too many opportunities for it to fail. If we ignore the critiques of power, then violence is inevitable. This is not an excuse for violence. It is an observation of how the world works.

75

@72, @73: Oh look, I can continue quoting your own words better than you do. (How do I accomplish this? You just don’t understand.)

From the end of your first comment in that thread:

‘And: "... have an
unarmed behavioral
health professional avail-
able to respond to emergencies."

‘how Hard
can it Be?’

The answer was in the survey, but the Stranger twisted the survey’s results to bury that answer. You can read the full explanation in the rest of that thread (it’s news until you read it!), and possibly understand how the very act of you asking the question reveals just how badly the Stranger punked you with propaganda. Enjoy!

(Oh, and thanks again for quoting my humorous statement about cruelty. If that’s the strongest evidence you’ve got of my being a cruel person, then I’m probably not one. Please feel free to keep re-stating my lack of cruelty, and do recall you need to continue including the emoji to do so.)

76

@above
too l o n g
too tedious
can't be bothered

so you're gonna Plead
the 'just kidding'
defense.

10-4
I'll play
along too.

77

@76:

“@above
too l o n g
too tedious
can't be bothered”

Now, that’s beautiful! You vomit undigested copypasta on these threads all of the time, demanding we read and care about your tediously bloated pearls of borrowed wisdom, and you can’t even be bothered to read a direct response? Oh, the irony! Thanks for the laugh.

Did you ever read the rest of that thread upon which you commented first? Or do you already know you haven’t the stomach for it? Have you any idea why, contra Stranger, a majority of the survey’s respondents did NOT want police alternatives? (How hard could it be, indeed?)

“so you're gonna Plead
the 'just kidding'
defense.”

“The winking face emoji also functions as a way to imply that someone is just joking around, often accompanied by comments that are meant to be taken in jest. It can also help to mark a lighthearted tone or a positive or playful attitude.”

Learn more about the communication method you use every day! https://www.dictionary.com/e/emoji/winking-face-emoji/

78

read mine or don't
your Toxicity your constant
needing to twist the knife makes
too much of your clever whatever unreadable

79

@78: What, do I constantly call everyone who disagrees with me in the slightest — almost every one of them actually a liberal, BTW — a fascist, or fascist sympathizer, or dupe of a fascist? Is that the horribly intolerable “Toxicity” you’re now here whining about?

Look, if you want to pose and preen as someone who Always Gets It, whose chronic and demonstrably superior wisdom endows him with the authority to lecture pretty much everyone else here, all of the time, then you’d bloody well better be not such an easy mark yourself. Yet just recently, the Stranger, a drug dealer, and soon-to-be-ex-CM Sawant have all easily gulled you into vocally supporting the outright frauds they were selling. You even repeated the cult-like lie about how the last made $15/hour possible, when OTHER citizens had actually done all of the hard work to make $15/hour not merely possible, but a reality. That’s some serious, long-term gullibility you’ve got going there. (And also quite insulting to the citizens of SeaTac, who’d actually done the thing she has only ever talked about.)

Instead of maybe wondering why you keep on getting getting duped, you lash out in vindictive rage at anyone kind enough to inform you of these frauds. Where’s your equal (or greater) ire for the fraudsters who gulled you in the first place? Why are they not your targets? Why have you a knife only for persons who read with careful skepticism?


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