Cooper is wrong.

Watching the Worst Person in America do anything is voluntarily subjecting yourself to abuse. There is nothing to be learned outside of the "silo" from his narcissist, rapist, sociopath brain. It's just more abuse. Even pictures of his business-clown getup are offensive.

No one needs to see or hear from him ever again. Millions will line up to piss on his grave.

@1: Still newsworthy. Besides, being shown how crass Trump still is a public service, if not a jaw dropping spectacle.

Also, remember good journalistic practices:
who [allegedly] killed a homeless man...

handing to the trumpfster
a Nuremberg Rally replete
with MAGAtty psychopants
will help cement the Fascists'
Death Grip on our Democracy

CNN was Elated to Oblige
becoming his next Champion
and FOX Wannabee. Cooper sux.

also:
Must we wait to piss
on tfg djt till he's
Deceased?

he Likes it!
Putin's got a
whole Library
full of piss tapes
and all Starring djt:

Urine My Heart &
Yellow River being
his two Most Faves

5 bus line not cancelled

2: Jordan Neely is dead, and Daniel Penny killed him, there is no question about that.

The question being placed before the court is, wrte Penny's actions reasonable, or reckless?

the triumphant return of
Bulky the Clown!

@7: News organizations should be ideology-agnostic.

@7
Yes, yes, yes!
the Guardian and Al-Jazeera offer more objective and world-wide worthy news. Seven different USA news outlets will all tell me the same thing- how many times do I need to hear that Elon Musk has stepped down from Twitter?

@8
And yes, Trump can wonder up and down 3rd Ave like the other psychotics saying whatever he wants.
But CNN is a private business- they are under no obligation to broadcast the stream of consciousness from a raving lunatic and call it “news”.

@11 - Well said.

Also, Trump will always just add more firepower to Jack Smith's arsenal over at DOJ when he babbles remarks about his pending cases in public, as he shot his own defense strategy that the boxes sent to Mar-a-Lago were in error and meant for the archives.

@2 [allegedly]? Are you fucking kidding me?
Legally, yes, but you saw the video. He killed that man for the world to see. No [alleged] about it.

@2 Is there some question about whether Jordan Neely survived his encounter with Daniel Penny, or his death was due to some unrelated cause? Last time I checked, the medical examiner had determined: (1) Neely was dead, and (2) his death was a homicide.

@9 I disagree that the truth is an aggregate of perspectives. There are things that are true no matter how hard people disbelieve them. Round earth, blue sky, January 6 was an insurrection, for examples.

On the CNN town hall, I find myself in the uncomfortable for me position of agreeing with Raindrop. The man can’t keep from incriminating himself and opening himself for more defamation lawsuits any time he’s at a microphone. And while his antics improve his chances with his base, they’re going to turn off the other 70% of the country. I would like the town hall folks to turn off his mile if he starts talking over the moderator.

@11: why didn't you, as a centrist, watch it? isn't not watching it the same as censoring him? you just gained him more "followers". that is not centrism.

@14: except Smith isn't going to do shit about shit.

@15/16 - Correct. Though the deference of alleged is often extended until conviction.

I love you, Andy. Always have, and please be my valentine. But you’re wrong if you think people who don’t want to hear about T** and his silly-assed exploits every time we turn our TVs on is somehow siloing from an open-faced reality. The election is a motherfucking year-and-a-half away. That’s kind of a long time in Voterland, and who knows? The Republicans may find another person, their Ricky Nelson, whom they like better than what’s currently in the meat display. Andy. Please. CNN did it for ratings just like all the news organizations do now – and, alas!,will continue to do in the hopes that this will be the night that T** finally and literally drops his drawers and takes a shit on the stage. And after doing so, 39% of registered voters will call him “very brave.”

Happy for the Cinerama. Sad to see it all boarded up like that especially after all that dough Allen spent refurbing not too many years ago. The last movies I remember seeing there were “Apollo 13” and “Red Dragon.” Always was super-chilled inside which was nice on a hot, summer afternoon, but the carpeting had seen better days. I remember people turning out for its re-opening – a 70mm restoration of “On the Waterfront,” and of course, those 24-hour lines when “Independence Day” opened. That was something. Reviving downtown movie houses hasn’t been terribly successful in the past (remember UA 70 & 150?), but this is kind of bigger than those and the Cinerama holds a lot of town affection. Very best wishes.

Eighties in Seattle is hot. Hope everyone’s a/c is tuned up. Stay cool or enjoy the heat if you are one of those. Frankly, it’s a mystery to me, but whenever some people down here hear it’s going to be 115 in Palm Springs this weekend, they put the top down and head on out to the desert. They must have been born on Mercury. Grand weekend, all.

@19 Sure, but it's kinda hard to deny when it is obvious on video.
Like being a douchebag in comment sections. The evidence is still there cough cough.

@22 There should be some ** in there...

Trump ordered an attack on America, same as bin Laden. Maybe CNN should have brought him on for a town hall back in the day too.

He's a fucking terrorist. Among many other horrible things.

100% free speech has never existed and shouldn't. Not everyone deserves a voice to say whatever the fuck they want. Especially when they've proven to be extremely dangerous to society on both micro and macro levels.

This was a shameless cash crab from CNN because they want to be the new mouthpiece for Trump. The new head of the company has said as much. This was not some bold stance in favor of nonpartisan media. Just a pointless shitshow, by shitheads, for shitheads.

Tom Nichols at The Atlantic had a great opinion piece about the CNN/Trump fiasco. He tosses off one line that speculates CNN could be angling for the viewers that Fox has been hemorrhaging since the TC firing. You know, a new RWNJ wing to CNN.

Nat, it's flak, not flack. Check etymology on that one.
Also, it's the Dallas Stars, not the Texas Stars.

@25 Dude took it on himself to kill a person. What is wrong with you?

@25 - Well, I've been extensively trained on neck restraints, as we used them in Dallas PD up until 2009 or 2010 or so. He appeared to apply a properly placed vascular restraint...which is what we used...but he held it wayyyyy too long. The restraint needs to be released the second the subject loses consciousness, not well after. Holding it that long after loss of consciousness is just begging for a bad outcome.

And it IS reckless. If you're going to use it, you better know how to use it properly. I used it regularly whenever anyone resisted, because I was built for it. Tall and lean works best. Short and stocky cops usually had difficulty getting it to "take" for them. When applied correctly, it causes 15-20 seconds of unconsciousness, more than enough to apply handcuffs without further trouble. Hell, well over half the time, the bad guy would freak and give up just from the pressure well before losing consciousness.

Anyway, if I couldn't get the hold on properly (not always easy when the person is frantically fighting you), I always abandoned the effort and either tried another tactic or tried the hold again from a more advantageous position. I refused every single time to apply it improperly, however, as would any half-responsible cop.

When applied properly, we had a well-researched study that found it was safer than using a Taser. But Tasers look techy and they're not in contact with the subject (except for the darts), so the public approves of them. It wasn't the hold itself that got it banned from most every department in America; it was improperly applied holds.

This hold was improperly applied, in that it was not removed as soon as the man lost consciousness. The hold that killed Eric Garner was also improperly applied, in that it was the very dangerous bar-arm hold and not a vascular neck restraint.

Given how irresponsible and reckless it was of him to continue the hold well after the subject lost consciousness, I don't think a low manslaughter charge is unreasonable. You're probably right about a jury not convicting, however, given public fear of subway crime. The experience of being tried may make him more circumspect about living out his MMA fantasies on the public in the future, tho.

Correction! Bus line chopped is the 15.. NOT the 5

@21: the meanings of words are malleable. stop censoring me, centrist.

@30 'Christ, what an asshole...'
Yes, police should be held to a higher standard, that's what we pay them for.
Celebrating a killer makes you an asshole. No surprise there.

@36 And those prosecutors and social workers were the people who choked him out?
What the fuck is wrong with you?

So, to clarify, since you are an idiot, dude was mentally ill and in distress. You think killing him and blaming other people is just fine.

You know there are other tactics for dealing with unwell people that don't involve murder.

Asshole.

CNN is owned by John Malone an far right MAGA lunatic who totally supported the Jan 6th 2021 coup attempt to overthrow a free and fair election.

There is nothing centrist about CNN. It is now explicitly far rightwing.

Penny is a murderer. There is no circumstance where holding an RNC for fifteen god damned minutes on an unarmed, unconscious, weaker man is "self defense" and not depraved indifference. It is absolutely manslaughter. Put that dangerous shitbag in prison for at least a decade. Anyone cheering this on is likewise an unhinged shitbag not safe to be on the streets.

As Alex Pareene asked five years ago, "How will the minds of the New York Times opinion section staff ever be expanded, how will they ever leave their ideological bubble, if they aren't exposed to ideas that challenge them, like 'all of you are charlatans'?" Anderson Cooper would fit right in there.

@34 I totally agree that more perspectives given in good faith are illuminating. Getting to that good faith part is tough these days in politics.

@43: It wasn't just one "vigilante", the video shows other New Yorkers trying to subdue Neely and their response is indeed from fear in being threatened by a "broke, starving, thirsty, crazy, homeless, and unarmed" repeat assaulter.

@44: "You sickos get off on the bullying of the weak, the easiest targets" - as did Neely when he punched an old woman in the face that resulted in one of his numerous convictions.

I suggest waiting until the investigations and testimony are complete before drawing conclusions.

@47: Actually we do need a justice system (@46) if we're going to make any headway in solving the problems in (@47).

That last question in unclear, but is moot anyway because of the profanity.

@48 Ooh... scary bad word!
I guess that is worse than murder.
You do you, asshole.

@51 Imagine that we had a fully funded system to deal with people with mental issues? Wouldn't that be awesome? Such a shame we can't have good things.
But then you would have to find someone else to shit on. Asshole.

I must say Brian Tyler Cohen has a better take on the CNN/Trump spectacle than I have been saying:

CNN host goes VIRAL with response to Trump’s town hall
https://youtu.be/R1_qcYfe2gg

@6: 'Bulky the Clown'
good one! I read it
as Bully the Clown

which is nice too 'cause
the verb gives one good Ad-
vice on Bullying el trumpfster
former Professional clown car Driver
certifying his Victimhood but who knows?

maybe one day his Disciples
won't disciple any More
and they feed him to
Whatever it is They
feed guys like him
To. the End. fin

grease
spot.

adios

@60 -- "However I do know that if I somehow found myself defecating all over myself while smoking Fentanyl in Pioneer Square I sure as hell would want someone to put me out of my misery.... "

have you considered
posting on Grinder?
some might even
Pay you for the
TeeVee Rights

godspeed.

@30 -Sorry it took so long to respond...if you're still here. Was out and about.

It's not hard, really. If you don't know how to use a restraint method...any restraint method...correctly, don't use it. Especially don't use it when even correct use involves depriving the brain of oxygen (blood), thereby increasing potential consequences if you screw it up...unless you're certain you know what you're doing. If you're not proficient in the use of a hold that can cause death if something goes wrong, don't use the hold. It's as simple as that.

I always assumed if I killed someone unjustifiably, I would end up in the dock. Of course, that was unlikely during my time as a cop, but I assumed it anyway. Anyone intervening in situations such as this should assume the same. It may make them less reckless with their actions.

@65
you're
Still here?

@24 Brent Gumbo for the WIN! Thanks for beating me to it.

@26, @28, and @66 Morty: I appreciate your consistently spot on views on police procedures, and your shared experience.

@67 kristofarian: I guess STII's filling in for Bazinga today.

@49: "Would you be okay with a random vigilante with minimal training to kill treating you this way?"

Yes! If I was threatening the lives and safety of others.

@Toby (what a spot on name) I have been attacked, assaulted and on public transit have been stuck in the middle of other people's issues. I'm still alive, not arrested, and still managed to defend myself without murdering anyone.
You are just a scared excuse of a person. Go upstairs and ask your mommy what that means.

And Toby... So, I have disarmed one person solo, and two different people with help. Didn't murder anyone. Could have with the first guy, but I threw his pistol on the roof of the building we were outside of. He still did not end up well...
Just sayin... don't fuck with hippies. We are pacifist to a point. Guess where that point is?

And actually, sitting next to mentally ill people and at least "pretend" to listen (if that is the most compassion you can muster} can be a good distraction and help de-escalate situations.
But you are scared, I understand. It really sucks to live in fear... But you're Sir Toby II!!!

Somebody that "Knights" themselves obviously has issues.

@70: Let me ask you a hypothetical. If you were in NYC a couple of weeks ago, would you have been among the protesters who jumped down into the subway tracks to protest? Do you think anyone would be big story if Jordan Neely was a person of white?

And now for a bit of levity. The town wants tall Kyles, short Kyles, old Kyles, and young kyles.
To that I would add:
Fat Kyles
Skinny Kyles
Kyles that climb on rocks

Tough Kyles
Sissy Kyles
Even Kyles with chicken pox

I'm really not interested in visiting Texas at this time, sorry.

@76 um, i work in bars. It's kinda a requirement if you don't want your ass handed to you, you poor sheltered soul...

@78 for the Kyle WIN!! While my reasons are most likely different, I'm not really interested in visiting Texas anytime soon, either.

@ "Sir" Toby...
And three times in thirty years ain't too bad. Plus, I know how to do this shit (and yes, it is a complete pain in the ass}.

Still never murdered anyone.