It's notable that animal cruelty is a sure sign of a sociopath. Kristi Noem would fit well in a Trump White House, as he's the only President in the past 150 years to not have a pet while in office. It makes me wonder how many frogs he tortured in his youth.

(Also, Frank Blethen shot a dog. Never forget.)

speaking
of Sociopaths:

it’s EZ
(& Essential!)
for the reich-wing
to Link Anti-genocidal-
Not-With-OUR-Tax-Dollars!
Student Protests with those

calling for the DEATH of Israel

but it’s
Dishonest
tho That’s HOW
they Play this Game

End the Genocide:
STOP Funding
Genocide

use your
Bully Pulpit
mr President

You/We are
Running.
Outta.
Time.

and ROCK ON Peaceful anti-
Genocide not-with-OUR-
tax-dollars Protesters:
let Our Humanity
Shine. we're all
'playing' for
Keepsies.

@1
So not having a pet is an indication that someone tortured animals?

It is completely on-brand for the dog-shooters to be in charge of throwing grandma and grandpa off Social Security and making sure subsequent generations never see a dime of it. They've been quite clear this is their agenda.

‘After delaying last week, the University of Washington's pro-Palestine activists have targeted Monday as the start of their protest encampment. In preparation, the UW has placed these sandwich boards which read "NO CAMPING ALLOWED" and cite some code across the campus:‘

I’m looking forward to the Stranger’s total surprise (followed by blistering, hate-filled rage), when citizens of Seattle indicate easy acceptance of a camping ban. How could people in Seattle not love themselves more encampments?!?

It will truly be a mystery.

To the Stranger.

@5 better yet why don't you, tensorna, and raindrop walk your walk and go maim some Palestinian children--I mean defend Israel's right to exist

@7: Missiles fired from Iran maimed Palestinian children?

speaking of anti-Genocide

Reich wing Oppression
Rears its ugly head
nyt:

As Anger Grows Over Gaza,
Arab Leaders Crack
Down on [Pro-
Palestine]
Protests

The war [on
Palestinians] has
led to demonstrations
across the Arab world. The
numerous arrests suggest that
governments are fearful of the outrage

turning on them.

more:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/29/world/middleeast/gaza-arab-protests-crackdown.html

Arab Spring
Round II?

not if THEY
can Help it.

@8 -- univ. of Wisconsin?

yeah there Is a post from
10/10/23 and yes there is
a hang-glider but Where's
this 'celebration' of hamas'
Atrocities on 10/7 from
your link (to X)?

MUX's x is all For
far right rule
and'll likely
be a Big
Help to

El trumpfster
along with the
Ruskies & Chinese

yet Again.

@5. Interesting. Will the Pro-Hamas people be camping out outside the university campuses where the protestors against Gazan genocide have set up?

Attacking a straw man is not going to win you hearts and minds.

@12: “univ. of Wisconsin?”

Wow, that’s an exceptionally feeble attempt at a dodge, even for you.

As you were lectured over the weekend, you can oppose the Israel-Hamas war whilst supporting neither Israel nor Hamas. You just distance yourself from (in this case) the anti-Israel, pro-Hamas folks. That may mean avoiding their “protest” rallies, and not pretending all they ever say is, “Stop the GENOCIDE!”

Otherwise, you wind up trying to cover for them, and because it’s you, stumbling about it in a really incompetent manner, which (as here) serves only to emphasize just how hateful these “protesters” really are.

The 10/7 attacks were heinous and cruel, and that image of the paraglider is indefensible. Surely the student groups who endorsed that attack are in the wrong, particularly after employing sexual violence and downright evil in their murder of innocents. That is pure and simple terror right there, and Hamas must be held to account in the Hague and beyond for its war crimes against Israelis and its own people that led to this genocide.

The Netanyahu regime and the IDF have since employed methods after that attack that have employed brutal and fatal violence against innocent women and children, and although they were not violated in the way Hamas did, they were violated by explosions, shrapnel, starvation, mass graves and bullets, disease and malnutrition, starvation and famine, homelessness, and collective punishment. 70% of the 100,000 casualties are women and children, as well as newborns and doctors and international aid workers. Does that not constitute violence against women for some reason? Does that not qualify as some form of unacceptable war crime? Why not? What makes that permissible for any actor to do? What gives you the right to pick and choose what sorts of fatal violence against innocents are permissible or not? Some textbook definition in dire need of revision?

The surest way to ensure peace and security is to end the war and implement a global peacekeeping mission to achieve stability and freedom for those who inhabit the Holy Land. Perpetual war after war after intifada after revolution will never get there at this rate. Rabin and Arafat tried but Netanyahu's Likud murdered him and sabotaged all possible ways out.

Enough with extremist regimes. Nobody is avenged by this perpetual madness.

@9 good point, if the US ever sends billions of dollars of weaponry to Iran I'd be against that too. See, I'm generally opposed to warmongering authoritarian regimes regardless which theocratic tradition they arise from. I know that's a foreign concept for you.

@11 holy war don't take Mondays off. Just blast some Onward Christian Soldiers and you'll be in the Mooslim killin' mood in no time I'm sure of it

@3 On second thought, he probably offered other kids $5 to torture frogs for him. And then didn’t pay them.

gosh wormmy
your friends here's
opinion of you is even
Lower than my opinion of you
but you've def. Earned your nickname

and yes
Dipshit the
Link takes you
to U of Wisconsin

which from what I've heard
is Not actually IN Washington

@16: “Surely the student groups who endorsed that attack are in the wrong,”

It was SUPER UW. Perform a search of the Stranger’s web site, and see how many articles the Stranger has posted since 10/7 which mention SUPER UW. Then see how many of them criticize that flyer. (That latter number is MUCH smaller, to say the least.) To amplify and extend @8, there’s a reason we doubt the Stranger has the best interests of peace in mind.

“Does that not constitute violence against women for some reason?”

If you hit a woman with your car as you swerve to avoid another vehicle, are you a rapist?

The point you, and the Stranger, and protesters all ignore, is Hamas’ role in creating and maintaining this situation. That’s why I keep advocating for destruction of Hamas, which is the only way to ensure another 10/7 won’t happen again. Everyone needs to understand that Hamas is an existential threat to Israel, and so Israel will not stop until Hamas ceases to be a threat. This will continue, no matter who commands the IDF. The international community should work to defund and disarm Hamas right now. That is the best way to end this horrible war.

@20: “and yes
Dipshit the
Link takes you
to U of Wisconsin”

It took me to SUPER UW, just as I wrote @16. (It appears to have worked for everyone else here, too. Have you considered upgrading from Netscape?)

@22 "The international community should work to defund and disarm Hamas right now."

Ehh that's not a very catchy slogan how about 'reform Hamas accountability measures slightly and work to recruit more female and minority jihadists'

@21. Way to generalize rural folks. Remind me to not have you cat sit.

Ahab, when are you going to learn that just because something is within your rights doesn't make it the right thing to do?

This isn't a fucking hippo with cancer, it is a hyperactive puppy dog she shot in the face. Christ almighty! Imagine what decisions these people would make for you if you gave them power!

Tensor, once again you are cherrypicking and your ludicrous comparison doesn't even defend your premise.

The quote was, does being "violated by explosions, shrapnel, starvation, mass graves and bullets, disease and malnutrition, starvation and famine, homelessness, and collective punishment" against women (and children), seven for every three Hamas fighters killed, not count as violence against women?

Are Gazan women not women to you? Is having a bullet or piece of a building exploded through your body at two to three times the speed of sound less violating to a woman (or anyone) that being raped? I just condemned Hamas's actions in the most crystal clear terms. Of course you never argue in good faith and never acknowledge that my goal is not to defend Hamas in the slightest, but to condemn their actions.

The more you post, the more ridiculous and porous your arguments. You can't possibly entertain any solution that eliminates Hamas other one that kills tens of thousands of innocent bystanders en masse and starves the whole country.

There's a smarter way to eliminate Hamas. https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/opinions/israel-flawed-strategy-defeating-hamas-pape/index.html

"To defeat terrorist groups like Hamas, it is important to separate the terrorists from the local population from which they emerge. Otherwise, the current generation of terrorists can be killed, only to be replaced by a new, larger generation of terrorists in the future. (This is described by experts as “counterinsurgency mathematics.” )

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/10/01/gen_mcchrystals_address_on_afghanistan_98537.html

"COIN mathematics
There is another complexity that people do not understand and which the military have to learn: I call it ‘COIN mathematics’. Intelligence will normally tell us how many insurgents are operating in an area. Let us say that there are 10 in a certain area. Following a military operation, two are killed. How many insurgents are left? Traditional mathematics would say that eight would be left, but there may only be two, because six of the living eight may have said, ‘This business of insurgency is becoming dangerous so I am going to do something else.’

There are more likely to be as many as 20, because each one you killed has a brother, father, son and friends, who do not necessarily think that they were killed because they were doing something wrong. It does not matter – you killed them. Suddenly, then, there may be 20, making the calculus of military operations very different. Yet we are asking young corporals, sergeants and lieutenants to make those kinds of calculations and requiring them to understand the situation. They have to – there is no simple workaround."

Why after 7 months of the nigh total annihilation of Gaza is Hamas still standing? Is it worth it commit de facto terrorism in kind against a terrorist cell if every indiscriminate strike merely recruits that many more Hamas militants? Is starving the ENTIRE population of millions going to stop Hamas? Your strategy sucks!

Sadly, the folks who justify the sociopathic shooting of that dog with the law and culture of rurals and who will call the situation legal and anything but genocide are cut from the same heartless cloth.

@27 in tensora's mind the math is easy: if there's 10 terrorists then kill all 10, plus everyone who knows or cares about them, and everyone who knows or cares about the second group, and so on until you can be assured there will be zero terrorists left. Kill everyone who might ever oppose you, sit on a throne of skulls, and if anyone questions your tactics bring up 10/7 and call them antisemitic (or unpatriotic, or whatever jingoistic nonsense the particular situation warrants).

On October 10th, I was soundly supporting Israel and urging the US to send them aid to eliminate the threat from Hamas. In the time that has passed since then, I have watched Israel slaughter more Palestinian children under 12 than the entire list of casualties from the Hamas attack, including legitimate target like Israeli troops. Palestine is on track to lose several times as many women and children from starvation.

I no longer support Israel's right to exist under its current leadership. The United States needs to tell Israel to end it's genocidal war, or America will make regime change in Israel its primary regional goal.

agreed G.B.
seemingly Joe's
got a pretty short
opportunity window
the ME's beginning to
get Toasty as Students Dig
In and the Reactionaries know
only One way to 'solve' this thing

a nasty & Viscious cycle
'specially with El trumpfster
on the Sideliines getting more
desperate/antsy than ole wormmy
at a Ceasefire - & if not Joe, then whom?

reich-wing oppression
rears its ugly head
Elsewhere as well

nyt:
As Anger
Grows Over Gaza,
Arab Leaders Crack Down on Protests

The war has led to demonstrations across the Arab world. The numerous arrests suggest that governments are fearful of the outrage turning on them.

more:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/29/world/middleeast/gaza-arab-protests-crackdown.html

bibi's
Enablers
oughtta Be
on the Front Lines

this little 'War'
is the Sole thing
keeping bibi outta

prison. all This
for ONE man

@32

i can see it now
an Enabler is dropped
into Gaza via Helicopter
like in Twilight Zone 'the Movie'
only he's suddenly Palestinian! protecting a
couple kids from IDF & he sees there's Another side

but
it didn't
work out
too well for
that fellah in the end

nor for those
35,000 dead
Palestinians

that's
ONEHELLOVA
Body Count. because Hamas.

the
Warrants
went out today I think.

@1 Agreed!
Gov. Noem is not some rural rube that didn’t know any better.
A dog that’s 14 months old (generally under 2 years old) has a reasonable chance to be trained and socialized.
Anyone killing a defenseless animal under the guise of ‘making a tough decision’ should be isolation from the rest of society.

Not even remotely surprised to see Neale Frothingham on here defending the killing of defenseless puppies. What a repugnant piece of shit that guy is.

WTF is WRONG with the idiots of the blood red neofascist MAGAt state of Floridumb?

@30 Greenwood Bob, @31 kristofarian, and @35 pat L +3 for the WIN!!!

Garb@16 & @27: Do you understand the difference between a Hamas terrorist raping an Israeli woman, and a Hamas terrorist intentionally (and nonconsensually) using a Gazan woman’s body as a shield against the IDF? Because those two violations of women’s bodies by Hamas are what actually happened, on 10/7 and after.

With all the time, money, and effort Hamas spent digging all of those tunnels under civilian infrastructure in Gaza, you could at least given them credit for trying to get civilians there killed.

speaking of
ongoing
Genocides

nyt:
College Democrats of America
back protests and criticize
Biden’s Israel policy.

College Democrats of America, the student organization of the Democratic Party, endorsed pro-Palestinian campus protests on Tuesday and called on President Biden to support a permanent cease-fire in Gaza.

In a statement approved by the organization’s executive board by a vote of 8 to 2, the College Democrats praised student protesters for having “the moral clarity to see this war for what it is: destructive, genocidal and unjust,” and condemned college administrators for suspending and calling in the police to arrest them.

“We’re realizing that our duty as College Democrats is to be representatives of college students to the party, rather than vice versa,” Mr. Muralitharan [vice president of the College Democrats and a student at the University of California, San Diego] said.

“As it stands right now, young people starkly differ on the issue of Palestine/Israel from the Democratic Party apparatus. And throughout the nation, we’re witnessing Joe Biden, Democrats across the ballot, losing scores of young voters over this issue.”
--by Maggie Astor

more
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/04/30/us/biden-trump-election-updates#bidens-israel-college-democrats

@39: Back to reading the NYT, I see — even beyond the subhead! Progress!

“And throughout the nation, we’re witnessing Joe Biden, Democrats across the ballot, losing scores of young voters over this issue.”

How about some actual polling data? I mean, the country sounds pretty divided, right?

“An overwhelming majority of Americans support Israel in its war against Hamas over the militant group running the Gaza Strip, according to a new poll.”

So, that’s merely a two-thirds majority, right?

“The Harvard CAPS-Harris survey shared with The Hill showed 80 percent of registered voters said they support Israel more in the war, while 20 percent said they support Hamas more.”

But, after six months of grim news, support for the war is softening, correct?

“That is about in line with the poll’s findings from last month, when 79 percent indicated they support Israel more.”

Ok, support for Israel actually increased. But the student protests will change that, for sure!

‘Mark Penn, the co-director of the poll, said support for Israel “has not budged” despite the “campus unrest.” He said the student protests appear out of step with broader public attitudes on Israel and noted that the poll showed Americans largely want a cease-fire in the war but only after Hamas is removed from power and the hostages they seized during its Oct. 7 attack on Israel are returned.’

But still, the students have popular support, no?

“…student protests appear out of step with broader public attitudes on Israel…”

Ouch.

(https://thehill.com/policy/international/4629597-americans-israel-hamas-gaza-student-protests-poll/)