Miami motorcycle cops need to lay off the 'roids.

You do know that the Biden Admin has been trying to broker a Ceasefire for months, right?

Arms embargo, not so much.

Parts falling off planes in flight.
Starliner malfunction stranding astronauts in space for 8 months.
Yeah. Sounds like a great time for these highly skilled and detail oriented workers to strike.

@1, Pennsylvania v. Mimms.

"Held:

The order to get out of the car, issued after the respondent was lawfully detained, was reasonable, and thus permissible under the Fourth Amendment. The State's proffered justification for such order -- the officer's safety -- is both legitimate and weighty, and the intrusion into respondent's personal liberty occasioned by the order, being, at most, a mere inconvenience, cannot prevail when balanced against legitimate concerns for the officer's safety."

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/434/106/

The 1977 Supreme Court Case makes it the law of the land that you must step out of the car solely at the officer's option. .

What we don't know from the Miami video is if officers ordered him out and he refused.

Hopefully there is bodycams or police car video to provide the missing information needed to evaluate what went down.

@3:

Striking is always a last resort, used when management adamantly refuses to bargain fairly. Maybe if the corner office crowd at "the lazy B" was more concerned about maintaining a skilled workforce to build its products properly rather than it is about appeasing shareholders and padding their own portfolios, this kind of action wouldn't be necessary.

@5 I don't know how you can say management didn't bargain fairly when union leadership agreed to this contract. It's the rank and file that is rejecting the offer their leadership negotiated. From the ST

"Union members had hoped for a 40% pay hike and were disappointed by the contract’s 25% increase. But Holden said that’s the largest general wage increase for all members “in our history.” In addition, he said, a change to the system whereby an employee’s pay escalates over time means that about 1,500 Machinists would immediately go to the maximum pay scale, their wages rising at least 40%, while 2,000 others would find their wait for that maximum pay jump substantially shortened. Although the contract abolishes the Machinists’ annual bonus program, he said the guaranteed general wage increase that compounds over time is much more valuable. Some Machinists were set on getting back their traditional pension, given up in 2013. Holden said no company has ever restored such a pension after taking it away, and Boeing wouldn’t budge on that. The offer instead includes substantial new Boeing contributions to employee 401(k) retirement plans."

So the largest increase in pay in the history of the union and substantial retirement contributions but its being rejected because they want their pension back and an even larger pay increase. Maybe they'll win additional concessions but I don't think it's fair to pin this on Boeing management.

@4 I see SLOG's shittiest lawyer has returned.

He actually returned a couple months ago, posting under the name metaphysical. Garb made him look stupid as shit in this thread...

https://www.thestranger.com/slog-am/2024/07/23/79615763/slog-am-kamala-clinches-delegate-count-initiative-polling-looks-bad-major-unions-demand-us-halt-military-aid-to-israel/comments/32

...so he abandoned that profile for a few weeks and is back again. Unfortunately.

@4 Way to bury the lede.

"It was totally legal to order him out of the car!"

"Uh, we don't know if the cop actually gave that order or not."

I assumed his wife took his phone away from him but he probably just forgot his log in and had to set up another profile.

I’m sympathetic to Boeing’s workers giving the amount of time this has taken and their last bargaining experience, but if they’re going to strike over things like bringing back a pension plan, their leadership hasn’t done a good job managing expectations. The SPEEA strike of 2000 and the IAM strike of 2008 guaranteed that the 787 was going to South Carolina, and the same will happen from any stoppage this time. Boeing has $53 billion in debt, they simply can’t find all of the quality improvements they need to make, supply chain insourcing, and every labor demand.

Biden could have stopped the genocide before it began. No money and no weapons to Israel means no ability for Israel to do what they have been doing for nearly one year now.

Biden doesn't want Israel to stop. Biden is a Zionist. He has taken $4 MILLION (that we know of) from AIPAC. He has, throughout his political career (long before he became POTUS) been a loud and proud rabid Zionist. He has been a part of the United States sending hundreds of BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars to Israel over decades (tens of BILLIONS over the last year).

Biden spent another few hundred MILLION on having a pier built to "deliver aid" to Palestinians, a pier that lasted 5 minutes and delivered no aid (and was just a big PR stunt and fooled no one).

Imagine what $320 MILLION could have paid for in the United States, let alone $300 BILLION.
$42 BILLION from Oregon alone (where I live): a state that could use that money to house the unhoused, feed the hungry, educate people (because the educational situation here in Oregon is abysmal and only getting worse), deal with communities destroyed by wildfires, etc. etc. etc.

Israel is a terrorist state and the United States is the largest terrorist in the world, arming and funding terrorists worldwide. It doesn't matter if Democrats or Republicans have the power, the terrorism exists either way - the only difference being WHICH terrorists get the support.

Fuck Biden. Harris will do the same. Congress has no desire to stop Israel. Every single person in power in the United States who continues to support the arming and funding of Israel is not only breaking the laws of the United States in doing so (given Israel is committing genocide), they are also breaking international law.

@4, Kind of hard for you to argue with the plain language of the U.S. Supreme Court:

@9

A) It's legal to order him out of the car under Mimms and has been since 1977. Since they don't teach civics anymore, or make it a question on the driver's test, people mistakenly think they don't have to get out if directed to do so.

B) Re-read @4. Mimms makes the only question a factual one, not a matter of law. Did the officer order the guy out of the car and he didn't comply? As indicated in @4, the video we have doesn't answer that question. Hopefully there is audio of the interaction from another source.

Until there is, we can't make any conclusions about the legality of the police actions in question.

The Miami player filing a lawsuit would be helpful. It would force discovery of any police audio, video, and other evidence the police may possess. Being a high-profile sports entertainer for a living makes it less likely he will do so. Remember what happened to Colin Kapernik? The League and public don't like sports entertainers that make waves.

My guess is that everyone has an incentive to move on, including the understaffed press, so this will quietly face away and we will never know. That is unfortunate.

It’s not based on a stereotype though anyone could guess his gender and sexuality with 100% accuracy based on his stereotypically obnoxious behavior, maybe even his age.

@13 No, they aren't violating U.S. law. No, they aren't violating international law. Good luck with prosecuting everyone for their violations. I suppose after your glorious revolution and purge, none of that will be needed. Eh, comrade?

No one takes you seriously because you write utter nonsense. Go write your daily letters.

Israel is absolutely violating international law in numerous capacities, not just in Gaza.

@13, It is U.S. law that Israel get the military aid, in the billions prescribed. Biden can't repeal the law, only Congress can.

There is another U.S. law that says aid appropriated under other law can be withheld if there are violations of humanitarian standards listed in that law; however, it is required to be done on a unit-by-unit basis, targeting the smallest unit. E.g. The 3rd Platoon (32 men) of "C" company, of the 1st Regiment, of the 95th Division, of the IDF, or the Counter-terrorism squad of the Jenin Police. There is a bunch of due process for each case.

Assuming that the U.S. could withhold U.S. aid on blanket, non-unit-by-unit, case-by-case basis, Israel would not go bankrupt or stop. Its on the order of 1 to 2% of the Israeli Government's annual budget and a tiny percentage of their economy.

Israel, as they did in 1948, when they, and the Palestinians, were under an arms embargo, will just turn to other sources in the international arms market. That is what you do when you are facing an existential enemy, or if you are the existential enemy? How well did the arms embargo against Gaza and Hamas due in preventing 10/7, and the over 10,000 rocket attacks from Gaza to Israel since? How well have sanctions stopped Putin from getting arms to attack Ukraine. It's slowed Russia down, but ask a Ukrainian Soldier how its working. Ask a citizen in a city how well its stopping the missile and drone attacks.

Nor would not having the Nakba stopped Hamas. It, and other groups like them, have opposed any Jews or other infidels in the Holy Land, and have been willing to take any measures, including martyrdom, to achieve that aim. As long as the rest of Palestinians are willing to look the other way at such groups and not police them on their territory, these conflicts are inevitable.

If we care about civvies in Israel or Ukraine, we need to put our thumb on the scale so one side decisively wins so that hostilities cease.

Elon completely destroyed Twitter’s revenue stream so he could eliminate the hate speech policy and reinstate a bunch of nazi accounts — over 40 billion dollars down the shitter to give racists and conspiracy cranks a platform, the very kind of people now using his site to fabricate a racist hysteria that could very easily get people killed. Not sure what you expected from him but he’s always been this awful.

I love the unintentional irony of “Follow our Twitter account for updates” - nothing like a union movement putting money into the pockets of an avowed union buster (sometimes I think the ethos of the union was transferred to Keck’s second act).

TS, stop supporting those who are actively working against the best interests of most humans.

@13: "Biden could have stopped the Genocide before it began."

Laughable. He may be a "rabid Zionist" (he's not), but Likudniks and the ultra-Nationalists in their coalition don't like US Dems AT ALL (far too sympathetic to Palestinian aspirations). They would prefer Motherfucker back in office.

There won't be a ceasefire until Harris wins.

@16 The Leahy Law is U.S. law and the Biden administration (which has gone around Congress 3X that we know of) and Congress have both violated every time they arm and fund Israel. Oh, you won't so here you go:

The Leahy Laws or Leahy amendments are U.S. human rights laws that prohibit the U.S. Department of State and Department of Defense from providing military assistance to foreign security force units that violate human rights with impunity.

The Biden administration has ADMITTED that Israel is violating International law, so by default, in arming and funding Israel and doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to stop Israel (something as simple as not arming and funding Israel), they are admitting the United States is violating International law.

But by all means continue to live in your bullshit bubble.

Watching the debate. When they came in, it was apparent that Trump is afraid of her.

Under a Trump administration, people will not be allowed to have dogs or cats, to deprive immigrants of an easy meal.

I've been watching the debate too, for about an hour even though this slog post says it doesn't start until 8 PM? The parts about escaped mental asylum patients stealing our jobs and eating our pets have been my favorite so far.

My bad, 8 PM is something else called a gubernatorial candidates debate.

From Mastodon:

Jim Wright
Trump looks like a guy who just heard the click of the fuse in the landmine under his foot.

So how you all got it scored? I thought she was great. Not perfect, but she landed a couple pretty devastating blows. And he honestly wasn't awful. I mean, he's inherently awful and repugnant, but he pretty much just did his thing, which is all he's even capable of doing. Just denigrating immigrants and immigration policy relentlessly.

She definitely and undeniably "won" though I've no idea what impact such a win has on her chances come November, and it feels pretty and unfortunately minimal somehow. I can't imagine how one targets a still undecided voter at this point, and such people are so insanely stupid, I've gotta figure he's gonna have an easier time making inroads with them, though I'm skeptical he managed to do so this evening. The ABC pundits seem to think she did freaking great, FWTW.

I can't say who won because I don't usually watch these debates, but I was disappointing because I wanted to see trump falter more. He deflected blame, dodged questions, aired grievances, and lied a bunch as expected. I think Harris did a decent job of citing specific policies that could improve the lives of Americans, by which I mean tax credits for small businesses and parents. I only wish there was more talk about what policies they would push for and less talk about fracking or Israel, which are not going to be affected by this election.

Tonight, Kamala Harris murdered a 78 year old baby.

@23, The Leahy Law also requires unit by unit determinations and unit by unit sanction.

It it.is administratively cumbersome, and inapplicable in the manner you desire.

@29 FTW!

@30, It only matters how the 100k or so swing voters in a few states scored it.

like the previous
and upcoming Elections
eltrumpfster STOLE oodles
more Time from Kamala whilst
ABC Mostly allowed it. his Overruns
and they were Quick to head off Harris
shouldda been added up her's too and sub-
tracted from his time on mic. Harris shouldda de-
manded equal time -- for her to let it slide was regretful

she sounded quite Presidential at times
and if she can get past some of the
Formality & relax into a vernacular
more Comfortable for her she can
likely Run Away with this thing.

eltrumpster
certainly provided
the Harris Campaign
with Plenty enough Ammunition.

omg:

that
Smirk
of his Deserves
its own Place on a
mountain. my vote's
gotta be on Mount Doom

and on buses
Everywhere.

@34

speaking of Not defacing
Property, we're gonna
need Stencils of
The Smirk.

I watched the debate for almost an hour and then had to leave the room.

74 million people voted for that piece of shit who does nothing but lie and lie and lie and lie.

And his cult will follow him until the end of time, truly believing we are living in a country where hundreds of millions of immigrants are being allowed into the country, committing every possible crime there is, eating people's pets, taking people's jobs, and all people who support women having full human rights are murdering babies as soon as they are born if they didn't have an abortion in the ninth month.

He did not speak one truth. He did not answer one question. He truly believes everyone is dumber than he is and he can say and do whatever he wants and this country will follow him into his fascist fantasy because there is no way this country will vote for a woman, let alone a non-white woman.

I hope he loses by at the very least 150 million votes and then I hope he is sentenced to spend the rest of his life in prison. And then, just like his good buddy Jeffrey Epstein, I hope he kills himself.

@35,

Yeah, holy shit that obnoxious-assed smirk might somehow emerge as the enduring image from tonight. If you were to place me in front of him & Hitler and told me I only got to deliver one punch, I'd obviously send it to Dolph. But if he was standing there right in front of me and posing with that smirk, I might accidentally and reflexively send it his way. What a total and complete fucking ass.

@xina
I appreciate
the sentiment
of your final sentence

if Only
eltrumpster
wasn't madly
deeply in Love
with Himself he
might Epstein his
ample fascist arse
& that’d be Justice

btw
it was
remarkably
easy to mute
what's 'is name.
Wish I'd begun Sooner.

newsflash:

Taylor Swift's
onboard w/
Kamala.

so Sorry
donOld.

at least you've Still
got the Hannibal
Lecter vote

& probably
maybe Dave
Sheriff Reichart's
who stumbled over
the Green River Killer for
Decades before FINALLY
'catching' him. What took

you so dang Long?

newsflash:

Taylor Swift's
onboard w/
Kamala.

so Sorry
donOld.

at least you've Still
got the Hannibal
Lecter vote

& probably
maybe Dave
Sheriff Reichart's
who stumbled over
the Green River Killer for
Decades before FINALLY
'catching' him. What took

you so dang Long?

damn:

the
Daily
Double.

@41 After last night, you're going to vote for Trump? Well, I won't judge you on your youth and inexperience.

268 Million Followers.

What is the point of mocking an endorsement? It only takes a few thousand votes to swing the election and she has a lot of young fans with a lot at stake who might not otherwise pay attention to politics. Their votes count just as much as yours, or any of Elon’s 197M followers for that matter. At least she’s not posting racist memes about immigrants eating cats.

It would be an incredibly stupid “experiment” and yes I would absolutely assume she could sway enough voters to Trump if she were so inclined. She only needs to persuade a minuscule fraction of her followers to vote to make a difference.

@41

oh
so you're
Butthurt over
my Non-endorsement
of The Sheriff? what were
you expecting? Hannibal the
Cannibal to pop outta a cake
during the Debate with Fergy
& give dirty Dave the nod? no

Wonder you're so
Disappointed.

Go, Fergy!
GO!

"Swift signed her endorsement,
'Childless Cat Lady.'" wait'll
jdvance gets ahold of her
adorable pussy and eats
it too. And the dog. &
then Blames 'Haitian'
Immigrants. Why do
you Hate Taylor
Swift so bad?

your Jealousy
is as Revealing
as it is Disgusting.

"Meanwhile, by 2:00 this afternoon [9/11], Taylor Swift’s endorsement had prompted 337,826 people to start the process of registering to vote." --Heather Cox Richardson, noted Historian

yeah
Taylor's
irrelevance
is Substantial.