"Israel has continued to pepper Iran with airstrikes."

No.

All the initiatives are going to pass.

those "housing works" statistics aren't as impressive as you think. it's barely a drop in the bucket. the 2024 point-in-time count had 9,800 unsheltered people in king co.

the program had a whopping 420 freeway campers housed over 2 years, then a quarter of them couldn't manage to stay in free housing?

I think what you meant to say was that Israel continues to pound Lebanon and Gaza with airstrikes. "Pepper" makes it sound like they're seasoning a steak.

@1, @4: It's a glaring factual error, hardly a typo, one that puts there reputation of The Stranger at risk. In the past, staffers would read the comments, correct the error, and add a comment thanking the reader who spotted it. However, I trust Ashley will act on this one.

Public policies that lead to a warmer planet increase the intensity of hurricanes, so in a way the government does control the weather.

UN report accuses Israel of ‘relentless and deliberate attacks on medical personnel and facilities’

A UN inquiry said on Thursday it found that Israel carried out a concerted policy of destroying Gaza’s healthcare system in the Gaza war, actions amounting to both war crimes and the crime against humanity of extermination, reports Reuters.

A statement by ex-UN high commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay released ahead of a full report accused Israel of “relentless and deliberate attacks on medical personnel and facilities” in the war.

“Children in particular have borne the brunt of these attacks, suffering both directly and indirectly from the collapse of the health system,” said Pillay, whose report will be presented to the UN general assembly on 30 October.

Israel says that Gaza’s militants operate from the cover of built-up populated areas including private homes, schools and hospitals and that it will strike them wherever they emerge, while also trying to avoid harming civilians. Hamas denies hiding militants, weapons and command posts among civilians.

According to Reuters, the UN inquiry’s statement also accused Israeli forces of deliberately killing and torturing medical personnel, targeting medical vehicles and restricting permits for patients to leave the Gaza Strip.

As an example, it cited the death of a Palestinian girl, Hind Rajab, in February along with family members and two medics who came to rescue her from under Israeli fire.

The World Health Organization (WHO) says more than 10,000 patients requiring urgent medical evacuation have been prevented from leaving Gaza since the Rafah border crossing with Egypt was shut in May. The Palestinian health ministry says nearly 1,000 medics have been killed in Gaza in the past year in what the WHO called “an irreplaceable loss and a massive blow to the health system”.

The statement said the treatment of both Palestinian detainees in Israel and hostages seized by Hamas fighters in the 7 October attack had been investigated and it accused both sides of involvement in torture and sexual violence.

[..]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/oct/10/middle-east-crisis-israel-gaza-iran-us-lebanon-latest-news-updates

News flash: blowing up tons of tons of tons of munitions releases that many metric tons of carbon into the atmosphere. Governments exacerbate climate change with every bomb. It is ultimately a self-defeating prophecy.

@7: "blowing up tons of tons of tons of munitions releases that many metric tons of carbon"

It's not exactly a one-for-one conversion by weight of explosive to carbon. Exploding munitions also release a lot of nitrogen gas and water vapor in addition to carbon dioxide. But there is a very high component of carbon dioxide, so your broader point is accurate. Munitions definitely do transfer carbon to the atmosphere, and in very dramatic fashion!

@3 yeah but those numbers are never compared to the terrible success rate of sweeping them in circles and letting some of them cycle in and out of prison for violating some property law or another, where they're no more housed after than before. Doing that to the same number of people as the program served over the same period of time probably costs more and decreases that point in time count far less

@6, @7, - Those are examples of affecting the weather, like cloud seeding, but nothing approaches controlling the weather so far in human history.

@1, @4, @5- more importantly, using the term” “Iran” makes it sound as though Israel is bombing, say, Iran instead of Gaza and Lebanon.

@9: I also wouldn't hold the small number of participants (ca. 420?) against the program. Programs with limited funding have to start out small. You can't expect a small program to solve all of a big problem. You want bigger a solution, then fund a bigger program. Until then, you can simply regard the small program as a pilot program.

A one-quarter drop-out rate after two years isn't exactly a resounding, silver bullet-esque success, but it's actually a pretty good result for this particular space. Homelessness is a multi-faceted problem, so it's no surprise that no single program is able to deliver perfect results. There is no silver bullet for homelessness, but every little bit helps.

Peppered vs pounded is a debatable choice of adjectives describing ongoing military operations, not a glaring factual error.

I genuinely do not understand the mindset of people who come to this blog every day just to whine about the coverage but this describes a large percentage of its daily traffic here in the comments.

@13: "Peppered vs pounded is a debatable choice of adjectives"

Choice of VERBS, not adjectives! 😃

But I think the bigger problem was Nerbovig's choice of country, not her choice of verb. Israel is not, currently, pounding or peppering Iran. Hold their beer, though!

@6 Unfortunately, global warming is an uncontrolled experiment with climate and everything that depends on it

Ok sure, descriptive verbs. The point remains.

@16: "descriptive verbs"

Descriptive verbs? As opposed to...non...descriptive...verbs?

OK, OK, I'll stop! 😆😆😆

I don't know what to say to people who complain about others who point out inaccuracies. Since they didn't @ me directly, I won't worry about it.

@13 Their mindset is a rightwing one and many appear to be here to push back against the Stranger writers views, i.e. to wage some kind of propaganda war. Many are likely political junkies but also note that paid commenters in news media comment pages is a much more common practice than one would expect. I am not pointing at anyone in particular but The Stranger would be a logical target of such effort considering its positioning in the media spectrum (or lack thereof) so it's worthwhile to be aware.

Now they used to have a type of anti-personnel cluster bomb that was fused to be altitude sensing. It would spin at a high rate as it approached the ground and at the predetermined height from the ground the sides would break free and the centrifugal force from the spinning bomb body would launch flechettes, small dart-like projectiles, in the number of thousands into the area surrounding the point of detonation. These were deemed inhumane by the geneva conventions and are no longer allowed in war. But they do seem climate friendly.

@3 - so you’re going to bitch about what is arguably the most effective program out there, because it isn’t perfect?

Sure, it’s only ‘a drop in the bucket’ - because it’s just starting out (effectively a pilot project to test the concept) and is doing extremely complex work across multiple agencies with limited funding.

In the meantime, if you have a cheaper, easier, more effective solution - we’re all ears…

@13: "Peppered vs pounded is a debatable choice of adjectives describing ongoing military operations, not a glaring factual error."

Yes, but Iran vs. Gaza or Lebanon is a "glaring factual error," and it was noted explicitly in at least one of the comments (@4) you seem to be complaining about.

I genuinely do not understand the mindset of people who come to this blog every day just to whine about the other commenters correcting the glaring factual errors in the headline posts, but this describes a large percentage of daily traffic here in the comments.

@19: "These were deemed inhumane by the geneva conventions and are no longer allowed in war"

Citation needed.

@3 your comment points to how much more work there is to do in terms of reducing economic inequalities and providing essential services to the poor. 25% failure is in fact quite excellent given the huge troubles some of these people are in.

@22 My bad. Not deemed illegal. But the US no longer uses them in cluster bomb applications because they are too indiscriminate in what they target. The Army has some but it appears it can be utilized with greater accuracy because it is used in a rocket type delivery. But I wouldn't say that the rocket version is climate friendly.

Those bombs are carbon neutral! Green, nice, fuzzy, googly eyed bombs for your local fundraiser to go splat on your windshield. Fueled by good old A-meri-can Dream brand clean coal. Don't worry it's not a 1 to 1 conversion the laws of matter and energy be damned! We need more clean coal bombs to counteract the spacr lasers making weather and hurricanes. If we don't make a counter hurricane because as we all know a negative times a negative makes a positive and good science be damned I have the answer.

@25 Amen to the day we do have carbon neutral wars! And with all the cadaver composting, just imagine! Our farms will be healthier than ever, fertilized by the composted flesh from our dead enemies! Geez, the future gets brighter still :-)

@20: I didn’t read @3 as “bitch[ing] about what is arguably the most effective program out there, because it isn’t perfect,” but rather @3 noting the Stranger very quickly took that program’s initial small success, and, without any kind of comparison to the overall problem, loudly touted it as ‘proof’ the Stranger’s agenda is correct.

@27 Putting 'proof' in between quotation marks to pretend it was contained in Ashley's write up or even that it was her meaning is merely more evidence of the relentless and unscrupulous war you wage on the little existing progressive media in this country. Don't you have any other left wing news rag to rage at in Boston? How many more years after you thankfully moved away are you going to continue to vent your sour disposition in these pages?

@28: You're entitled to your opinions of what you've read, but there would seem little doubt this article very clearly said the initial success of this small program obviously showed it was better than Seattle's much larger effort, which the Stranger openly despises. From the very first paragraph:

'Shocker! If you offer people housing instead of just sweeping them, sometimes you might actually be able to help people escape the cycle of homelessness! ... Seattle sees less success with its strategy of declaring an encampment an "obstruction" and offering people an overcrowded shelter that may not meet their needs.'

And, per your usual demonstrated levels of knowledge, I do not reside anywhere near Boston, nor have I any obligation to answer your demand I say why I continue to comment here.

@29 I'll spare the readership another pointless battle with the torturer of words who obviously thinks that stringing words together according to some twisted logic and being the last to comment amounts to "knowledge" or something like that.

@28: Does not progressive media correct its errors? Progressives can lose integrity when they complain about misinformation from the right wing but are somehow "above it all" when it comes to fact checking their own copy.

@25
If a negative times a negative makes a positive, then how do you explain Trump times JD Vance?

@31 I personally believe the 'Iran" error is likely to be a brain fart or a moment of inattention. I do it often so I can relate and I believe it's no big deal.

The lack of correction is probably indicative of how much they care checking what is being said in comments after years of systematic bashing from right wing commenters or state of funding for personnel to proof read copy/monitor comments.

Did you try signaling the error via the complaint form if you care this much?

Yes I see now that the Iran error was the initial complaint but that got telephone-gamed to a complaint about verbs and that’s what I was responding to.

@2: I hope not, Swifty--especially Initiatives 2066 and 2117.
Those of us here in Washington State will be SO fucked if they do pass.

Actually, Marjorie Taylor Greene, you and your equally batshit RepubliKKKan fossil fuel profiteers DO control the weather now. Climate change is real, bitch, and entirely human made. Did you recently lose a house, property, or loved ones to a Category 4 hurricane--Helene or Milton?
You have only yourself, your willfully misinformed rabid Trumpism, and fellow MAGAs marching in neofascist lockstep to blame for all the life threatening destruction still happening in Florida, Georgia, North & South Carolina, and Tennessee.

@33: "I personally believe the 'Iran' error is likely to be a brain fart or a moment of inattention"

I suspect the Stranger staff are less interested in Israel's war qua war, and more interested in it as a stage for progressive politicking. From the Stranger's point of view, it's less important to describe how the fighting is going than it is to condemn colonialism or capitalism or whatever other progressive outgroup-ism they imagine to be personified by Israel. The facts of the war are largely irrelevant to the Stranger staff's political project.

@36 No. Slog AM is a resume of the days news so it's not going to contain anything other than a broad brush of events or snippets of some events. The Stranger's broad brush happens to be in agreement with how most of the world see the Palestine conflict and how almost all progressives see the Palestine conflict. Bias in news is everywhere and The Stranger makes no bones about its bias, unlike corporate news that claims to be balanced (somehow happens only when the right wing has nonsense to offer). The Stranger's bias may have played a role in the brain fart under scrutiny but so what? My gross estimate of 95% of all media describes the conflict from an Israeli point of view as shown by their constant regurgitation of Israel's talking points so it's not like readers don't have other options to feed their news habit.

@37: Now we understand. If the error happens to disparage Israel, then it's just a broad brush brain fart from an acceptable bias.

@37: If you're sick of that untrustworthy western, corporate, pro-Israel media, I highly recommend Arabic-language media coverage of the war. Your browser should have a built-in translation widget, although the usual caveats about machine translation apply.

The highest quality Arabic-language journalism is all state-sponsored, which brings its own set of problems, but it can also sometimes be illuminating. For example, one thing I've been enjoying recently is the difference in tone between Al Arabiya and Al Jazeera. Al Arabiya is Saudi state media, who profoundly despise Hizbollah and everything it stands for and are tepidly hostile to Hamas. Al Jazeera is Qatari state media, who are state sponsors of Hamas, at least its non-military components, and are agnostic at worst when it comes to Hizbollah. (Unlike Saudi, Qatar does not face an Iranian-armed Shiite insurgency.)

Al Arabiya is full of coverage about how Hizbollah's attacks against Israel didn't help Gaza at all and in fact probably made life in Gaza worse, while Al Jazeera is full of coverage about how much Israeli ass Hizbollah has been kicking. Hilarious to read them side by side!

And don't worry, if hating Israel is your thing (which I know that it is 😉), ALL Arabic-language news is chock-full of tales of Israeli perfidy. You'll love it! 😁

@33, @37: The sheer number of words you quickly spent on defending a basic and obvious factual error implies you have a lot of practice at such defenses.

@36: Yes. The Stranger uses this issue for (attempted) hard-left virtue-signaling, not because of any great knowledge of the situation (let alone concern for anyone involved). Hence, no one bothered to check the claim of Israeli airstrikes upon Iran by, say, glancing at a map, or recalling that Iran fired volleys of missiles at Israel, not the other way around.

@39: "or recalling that Iran fired volleys of missiles at Israel, not the other way around."

In fairness to Iran, Israel did schwack a bunch of Pasdaran officers in Iran's consulate building in Syria and also blew up a terrorist leader in a guesthouse in Tehran. Now, the Iranian officers' terrorist surrogates have been shooting at Israel nonstop for a year, so these people very much had it coming, but you can still see how Iran might have felt like ballistic missiles were maybe in some sense justified.

Still, it's one thing to arm proxies, quite another to shoot ballistic missiles yourself from one state's territory to another. See, for example, our support to Ukraine the Russo-Ukraine war, where arming Ukraine is within bounds but fighting alongside Ukraine is not. It was Iran who decided to take the fighting state-to-state, and I suspect they may come to rue that decision, lol!

@38a Your pearl clutching is hilarious. Israel has been bombing the hell out of innocent civilians for an entire year, murdering 10,000s of them in the process, so it's not an unintentional small error in a Seattle blog that is going to make its image any worse than it already is

@38b I don't need to read Arab news to know that Israel has been breaking international law for decades through its illegal occupation of Palestinains territories, breaking humanitarian law through its apartheid imposed on Palestinians, unlawful imprisonment, of Palestinians without due process, violence against prisoners, use of human shields, crimes against humanity, ethnic cleansing, and probable genocide. What's not to like, right? How could anyone have a problem with it? I must be some awful "Israel hater" for pointing out there is a problem with corporate media endorsing Israeli talking points. Duh!

@39 Calling The Stranger "hard left" says more about your own positioning to the hard right than anything else.

@41: All that doesn't matter, it's about a passion for accuracy that I would think you would hold in high esteem for good journalism. Instead, you attempt to negate it with tangential context that's another discussion.

@41: lol, OK, fine then! DON’T read Arabic media…In the middle of a war…that you care about…involving Arabs! Ha ha ha, that’ll show me! 😂😂😂

Speaking of Arabic-language news. No new updates on Hizbollah replacement secretary-general Hashim Safi-ad-Din. For now, I’m keeping the odds on his death at 5:1 in favor.

Meanwhile, the Esmail Qaani rumor mill has churned out a new gem. He wasn’t killed in the Safi-ad-Din strike, instead he’s been under interrogation in Iran, during which he suffered a non-fatal heart attack! According to Sky News Arabia and other sources, one of General Qaani’s deputies was suspected of contacts with Israel, and Qaani himself was pulled into the investigation.

This is all pretty bonkers, even by Iranian standards. Imagine D/CIA Burns keeling over from a heart attack during a counterintelligence investigation into one his senior staffers and then being sequestered in Bethesda for the remainder of the week, and you’ll have some sense of the crazy factor associated with this story. But these interrogation rumors go further than the death rumors to explain not just Qaani’s disappearance but also the regime’s silence about him. I’m downgrading the odds on Qaani’s death to 2:1 against. But if the Iranians are so wrapped around the axle that they are brutalizing their own seniormost commanders, then I’ll still be OK with that development! 😁

@40: "... also blew up a terrorist leader in a guesthouse in Tehran."

That one swiftly failed my giggle test. He was guest of Iran's regime, in their Revolutionary Guard guest house, and the Israelis somehow got all the way in there and killed him (and his bodyguard), then escaped, all without leaving a trace of their passage. Initially, the Iranian regime claimed an aircraft fired from a missile had killed him, but as no one else was hurt or even shaken, no one claimed to have seen or heard anything flying at that time, there was no missile debris displayed afterwards, and the location of Tehran within Iran effectively meant they were claiming Iran has no air-defense system, so that story quickly disappeared. Their next story told of a planted explosive, again inside their own Revolutionary Guard guest house, because apparently the Israelis have bred a species of invisible, invincible, invulnerable secret operatives. (IIRC, The Wall Street Journal had a photograph of a huge billboard in Tehran of this 'martyr,' posted within a day of his death. That's a lot of quick work for a place where everyone regarded him as a hero, and had absolutely no idea he would soon be dead, wink wink... oh yeah, he had been in favor of a cease-fire in Gaza, whilst his host regime was not. Pure coincidence!!)

@39: Seattle is one of the most chronically reliable of left-wing cities in America, and the Stranger's candidates have been getting beaten across multiple general election cycles. Obviously, it's all of those many Republicans in town who are at fault, hmm?

@45 -- per The Stranger, Republicans are terrible, and the current city council is full of people who are really disguised Republicans. Now of course none of the current city council members that The Stranger says are conservative Republicans support electing Donald Trump, and all of them support Kamala Harris, which is why they're disguised Republicans and are bad and should be replaced. But Kshama Sawant supports electing Donald Trump, which according to The Stranger is why she is good and the city council should have more people like her on it who support Donald Trump and are therefore obviously not Republicans.

If all of this seems completely batshit crazy, it's because it is.

@45: “[Hamas leader Ismail Haniyah] had been in favor of a cease-fire in Gaza, whilst his host regime was not.”

Hah! These terrorist leaders are always supposedly “right on the verge of a ceasefire” whenever they get killed. They said the same thing about Hassan Nasrallah after he got killed. No doubt we’ll hear the same thing about Yahya Sinwar whenever his number comes up. Such peace-lovers they all are after they are dead, but while they are still alive, they somehow, mysteriously, never quite get to the point where they actually, you know, cease fire.

We’ll know they are serious about a ceasefire when they start releasing hostages and stop shooting rockets. Until then, the supposed ceasefire negotiations are a sham and can safely be ignored. Just keep killing ‘em, and they’ll eventually find their way to a real ceasefire. It worked for the PLO, it worked for the Islamic State, and it’ll work for these jokers as well.

@28

Q. “Don't you have
any other left wing news
rag to rage at in Boston? How
many more years after you thankfully
moved away are you going to continue to
vent your sour disposition in these pages?”

A. the Joke’s on YOU:
I don’t live in Boston!
haw ha. ha ha. ha ha
repeat, ad infinitium

b. but if I can just
sour these pages
Long enough tS-
'll Likely Lose its
stomach for this
sorta thing and
stupid Progres-
sives'll have No
place to vent
spleen! See
what I Can
DO? ha
ha. ha
ha ha
ha ha
ha ha
ha ha
ha ha.
Jihad.

so what Else’s
the reich wing upta?

from the Chris Hedges Report:

Burn
the Planet and
Lock Up the Dissidents

The fossil fuel industry, and the politician class they own, have no intention of halting the ecocide. As the climate crisis worsens, so do the laws and security measures to keep us in bondage.

tonnes more:
ttps://chrishedges.substack.com/p/burn-the-planet-and-lock-up-the-dissidents

good ole
‘Citizens United’:
when the reichwing

Won the Battle
for Dominionism
Over Everyone Else

And OUR fucking Biosphere.

drill,
bitches.
Just drill.

@18: "Their mindset is a rightwing one and many appear to be here to push back against the Stranger writers views, i.e. to wage some kind of propaganda war."

Or, it's just providing the missing facts, which the Stranger reliably omits whenever said facts contradict the Stranger's narratives. Case in point, former CM Sawant stumping in Michigan to prevent the election of VP Harris, and therefore to get Trump elected. She provides a living, breathing example of Horseshoe Theory in action: a far-left female BIPOC former office-holder, trying to prevent the election of a liberal female BIPOC office-holder, in favor of electing a hard-core reactionary white male privileged authoritarian Republican. Although the Stranger spent a full decade amplifying almost everything Sawant said, they have refused to repeat her words from the campaign in Michigan. Therefore, we commenters have provided her words.

Another case, the bloodthirsty warmongering rhetoric of Seattle's pro-Palestinian demonstrators, which the Stranger now carefully sanitizes with euphemisms, lest it expose not only the vile nature of those protestors, but also the hollow nature of the Stranger's stated concern for the innocent victims of the war those protestors continue to demand.

You can say we commenters shouldn't do this, or that we're paid stooges, or whatever makes you feel better, but I happen to believe more facts are better than less, and the behaviors of persons the Stranger has praised should be examined, especially when those behaviors could cause an immense amount of harm to a large number of innocent persons worldwide. You're free to argue against my positions if you like.

'bloodthirsty'?

speaking of keeping
bibi nutnyahoo the
FUCKOUTTAPRISON

How
the Push
to Avert a Broader
War in Lebanon Fell Apart

Diplomats
thought both
Israel and Hezbollah
supported a call for a temporary
cease-fire. Then Israel killed Hezbollah’s leader.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/06/world/middleeast/israel-hezbollah-ceasefire-talks.html

speaking
of bloodlust:

nutnyahoo's
keep-outta-Prison
gambit's focusing ire*
onto those not necessarily
supporting his little Genocide
yet endangering his fellow Jews
Planet-wide. failing to see this is a
recipe for fucking Disaster. but sure

blame tS.

*wrongly
Wrongly
wrongly

@51: 'bloodthirsty'?

Yes, and very consistently, too. From a year ago:

'The protesters made their demands clear in their rallying chants: ... “There is only one solution, intifada revolution,” and, “We don’t want two states, we want 1948,”' (https://www.thestranger.com/news/2023/10/16/79212000/as-a-ground-invasion-looms-thousands-in-seattle-protest-for-a-free-palestine)

Now carefully sanitized, lest the Stranger's stated concern for innocent civilian victims of war be revealed as mere hollow virtue signaling:

"Nearby, a pro-Palestine rally of more than 400 people marched from the waterfront to the Space Needle to call for a ceasefire, a call-to-action more than a commemoration, one that acknowledged all the death and devastation that came on and after last October 7." (https://www.thestranger.com/slog-am/2024/10/07/79729008/slog-am-flooding-at-easy-street-records-mount-rainier-loses-some-height-another-hurricane-heads-for-florida)

As this video shows (h/t thumpus), the speakers had actually PRAISED the "death and devastation that came on ... last October 7."

https://x.com/EFischberger/status/1843334106249044428

Speaker describes the October 7 attack as the "birth of a miracle." Says the attack exhibited "courage like no other ... to lead us, to lead this broken world of ours, in a march of freedom unlike any other."

end bibi's rain of terror
end the madness end
bibi's destruction of
Israel its neighbors
its Values its moral
Compass not to
mention Free
Palestine:
Amnesty
for bibi

& NO
more Politics
for the world's
corruptedest man
or it's Nuremberg, baby

bibi
rather.

@47 "leaders are always supposedly “right on the verge of a ceasefire” whenever they get killed. They said the same thing about Hassan Nasrallah after he got killed. "

Diplomats thought both Israel and Hezbollah supported a call for a temporary cease-fire. Then Israel killed Hezbollah’s leader.

Everything appeared to be heading in the right direction for a breakthrough in Middle East peacemaking, to avert a spiraling war that would embroil the region.

Officials from the United Nations, France and the United States had drafted a statement calling for a three-week cease-fire aimed at preventing a broader conflict between Hezbollah and Israel, and shared it with the two sides to consider.

Amos Hochstein, a White House envoy, told United Nations and Lebanese officials that Israel was ready to endorse the statement, according to four Western diplomats and three Lebanese officials who were involved in or briefed on the talks. The leader of Hezbollah, Hassan Nasrallah, also sent word through an intermediary that his powerful militia supported the call for a cease-fire, the officials said.

So on Sept. 25, as world leaders gathered in New York for the United Nations General Assembly, President Biden and President Emmanuel Macron of France announced the plan and released the statement, expecting the warring parties to publicly embrace it.

But two days later, before diplomats could draw up a detailed cease-fire proposal, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel declared at the United Nations that Israel must “defeat Hezbollah in Lebanon.” Soon after, huge bombs fell on Beirut’s southern outskirts, killing Mr. Nasrallah and extinguishing any immediate prospect of a cease-fire. [...]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/06/world/middleeast/israel-hezbollah-ceasefire-talks.html

@50 " the Stranger reliably omits whenever said facts "

Get out of here. Whatever Sawant is saying in MI is certainly not important enough to be among the very few facts reported in Slog AM.

If anything Harris' lurch to the right will have a much much greater impact on not getting youth and progressives off the couch and The Stranger is not even reporting on that. Neither are the Sawant obsessed right wing trolls like yourself.

Fucking adverbs, how do they work?

@57

well
CD when
Two adverbs Love
each other VERY MUCH

sorry!
it's just
Too fucking
Embarrassing

@56

"If anything
Harris' lurch to
the right will have
a much much greater
impact on not getting youth
and progressives off the couch
and The Stranger is not even reporting
on that. Neither are the Sawant obsessed
right wing trolls like yourself." here to obscure
obfuscate and hide the Empire's many insidious

Deceptions they are. at least the
bloodthirsty reich-wing
propagandists
Surely are.

fucking
Bingo.

@56: "Whatever Sawant is saying in MI is certainly not important enough to be among the very few facts reported in Slog AM."

Hahahahahahaha ... "Whatever she's saying" is that she wants to defeat Harris, that she knows this will not get Stein elected. Therefore, she's working to elect Trump. Full Stop. That's not "important enough" for you? Especially after she did the exact same thing in 2016 (minus the admission Stein could not win, of course).

Horseshoe Theory in action. It never ends. We liberals constantly have to fight both left-wing and right-wing extremists. (At least the righties don't then whine at us about how progress isn't fast enough.)

@55: If Hezbollah wants to demonstrate their sincerity in wanting a cease-fire with Israel, then they can obey United Nations Security Council Resolution 1701, and withdraw from the south of Lebanon. This will be a precursor to another provision in that Resolution, "...the disarmament of all armed groups in Lebanon, so there will be no weapons or authority in country other than that of the Lebanese State." (https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/10/1155221)

That will count for one whole heck of a lot more than paraphrased statements from various unnamed persons -- even in the New York Times.

@55: Right, right, Hassan Nasrallah was THIS CLOSE to declaring a ceasefire! He had the ceasefire papers RIGHT THERE in his hand! Oh what a tragedy that his life was cut short before he could implement the ceasefire that he was SO EXCITED to declare! 😂😂😂

"If anything
Harris' lurch to
the right will have
a much much greater
impact on not getting youth
and progressives off the couch
and The Stranger is not even reporting
on that. Neither are the Sawant obsessed right-
wing trolls like yourself." see: @59, @60, and @61

for All the
"Proof" of That
you'll EVER Need.

well-
Played!

@62: That’s all you have? Full-out Horseshoe Theory from Sawant to elect Trump, and a mythical “lurch to the right” (from someone who would always denounce Harris as a right-winger, no matter what) is the strongest sauce you guys could muster in response? Weak.

wormmy
working his
magic words
helping bibi help-
ing elfuckingtrumpfster

helping
helping
helping

let the right-
ward lurch Alone!
he'll be Against it after
donold steals the next one
proving once Again their infallibility

@64: "wormmy
working his
magic words
helping bibi help-
ing elfuckingtrumpfster

"helping
helping
helping"

That's "HER magic words," dear. Misgendering her won't help you:

“The election has already started. Absentee ballots have been sent. We need to catch up rapidly. We need everyone here to get active. We need to be clear about what our goals are. We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic, we could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan. And the polls show that most likely Harris cannot win the election without Michigan.”

https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/10/harris-vs-trump-spoiler-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud.html

@59, 60, 63 & @65:

"If anything
Harris' lurch to
the right will have
a much much greater
impact on not getting youth
and progressives off the couch
and The Stranger is not even reporting
on that. Neither are the Sawant obsessed right-
wing trolls like yourself." sorry -- What was it you

was jess sayin'?

@67: You may have heard of Kshama Sawant? She's out helping ol' trumpfster:

"We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic, we could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan."

As your own deep personal knowledge of history will inform you, putting a reactionary white male with inherited wealth into the White House is to "win something historic."

Let us know if you have any problem with Sawant's actions. So far, you've said nothing.

@59, 60, 63, 65 & now @67:

"If anything
Harris' lurch to
the right will have
a much much greater
impact on not getting youth
and progressives off the couch
and The Stranger is not even reporting
on that. Neither are the Sawant obsessed right-
wing trolls like yourself." right. Sawant. got it, wormmy.

and now you're
replying to Yourself?

"@67 -- blah blah blah blah"

--@Wormtongue on October
12, 2024 at 4:15 AM

& then, what they call
the Money Shot:

"So far, you've said nothing."

why you workin' for
Far "right" causes,
wormmy?

you
Rich?

@kristo: You haven’t been this much fun since you loudly refused to read the New York Times. (Or maybe, when you persistently avoided acknowledging the student group you were praising had a violently eliminationist position against Israel.)

Enjoy your carefully-maintained ignorance. It suits you very, very well.

@59, 60, 63, 65, 67 & now @69:

"If anything
Harris' lurch to
the right will have
a much much greater
impact on not getting youth
and progressives off the couch
and The Stranger is not even reporting
on that. Neither are the Sawant obsessed right-
wing trolls like yourself." stay Blind, Wormtongue.

stay
Blind.

speaking of Projections!
(it doesn't Get any
Better than THIS!):

"Staying
a mere five
comments and
six hours behind me
must have been a painful effort for you."

tensorna on October 14, 2024 at 8:12 AM

oh, wormmy©!
you've Done
it Again!

fucking
Bravissimo.
Hat's Doft, gleefully!
Gloatingly! cheerleadingly.